Burnaby Updates

[GMD]

"Lol why not do a ten storey etc"

10 story is not economic. If you're going to do the work to build a concrete tower, need to go 20+ stories to make it worth your while. Wood frame is only allowed up to 6 stories.

This is playing out in Port Moody right now, where part of the city near the skytrain was zoned for up to 12 stories but developers weren't interested, now they are considering re-zoning to permit a mix of 20+ stories concrete towers and shorter woodframe buildings.

A quote from the open house presentation on the changes to the plan: "Developer roundtables (March 2015): Mid-rise (7-12 storey) not economically viable. Market supports 4-6 or 18-20+ storey forms"

[Tetsuo]

Does anyone know what happened to that small collection of duplexes on Rumble between Sussex and Patterson. Next to seniors housing/deaf school

[POCO]

Originally Posted by Tetsuo

Does anyone know what happened to that small collection of duplexes on Rumble between Sussex and Patterson. Next to seniors housing/deaf school

Are those "cottages" gone?

I just did some googling, looks like there are building 145 units of affordable senior rentals.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by Marshal

Tell that to Vienna, Prague, Berlin, Milan, Brussels, Amsterdam, Hamburg, Copenhagen, Stockholm, Helsinki, Zurich, Turin, Valencia, Porto, Bari, Munich, Dublin, Edinburgh, Oslo and the rest that would be required to finish this list.

Those cities are basically like a huge downtown throughout with a constant building height, and no single family house sprawls like we have here. In the Vancouver/MetroVan context, six stories around skytrain IS a copmplete waste of space. Buildings should go up 20 stories or more. Want to have a good mix, put 6 stories 3 or 4 blocks away from the stations. Simple.

[Pinion]

Originally Posted by Marshal

You must have felt a little breeze clip the top of your head.

Why don't you explain what your point was instead of making two vague posts in a row?

[Marshal]

Sorry for the trouble, but why don't you stick to telling yourself what to do. This discussion is too confused, too unfocused, and so just another bit of static within the forum. I rarely choose to participate in a discussion which has too many misinformed but strongly held opinions. If that troubles you, I apologize for the headache.

[Spr0ckets]

Why does everything in this forum always have to devolve into fisticuffs and handbags?

(or at least it seems that way).

Take it easy, guys.
Its summer; get outside; take in some sunshine; get your favourite drink with some friends and enjoy the company of family (.....or not).

[Pinion]

I don't even know what the issue is - it's completely one sided.

[Sheba]

Apparently I need to look at the Burnaby Major Development Projects more often.

Brentwood:
REZ # 17-14, Initial Report 2017 May 29
2421 Alpha Avenue
Construction of a high-rise residential tower with live/work units fronting Alaska Street

REZ # 17-15, Initial Report 2017 May 29
5258/5334 Lougheed Hwy & 2160/2210 Springer Ave
Establish a Conceptual Master Plan for the subject site and a detailed Phase I development plan for a high-rise residential apartment building with townhouse units in the southwest portion of the site

Edmonds:
REZ # 14-25, 26, 27, 28
REZ # 15-25
REZ # 16-08, 10
REZ # 17-07, 15
That is all Southgate, from the master plan, to a low rise non-market building, to multiple towers with either a low rise or townhouses. One of them says "42-storey residential tower with a 6-storey podium"

[Tetsuo]

Originally Posted by POCO

Are those "cottages" gone?

I just did some googling, looks like there are building 145 units of affordable senior rentals.

Thank you!

[officedweller]

Milano
Posted today from GBL twitter:


https://twitter.com/GBLArchitects

[Cypherus]

Originally Posted by Marshal

Sorry for the trouble, but why don't you stick to telling yourself what to do. This discussion is too confused, too unfocused, and so just another bit of static within the forum. I rarely choose to participate in a discussion which has too many misinformed but strongly held opinions. If that troubles you, I apologize for the headache.

Sorry to reign in here, but every time I visit this forum I see you are always posting fluff about how everyone is posting static and, apparently, too unintelligent for you. You just come across as a person with a superiority complex who uses this contrived, supercilious attitude while posting run on sentences about the few topics you do know something about....

[HelloKitty]

Originally Posted by Marshal

No worries, though somewhere in this subject matter I think we disagree. All I will say is complexity and difference are good things most of the time.

Agree. When everything is all concrete highrises around, sometimes, it starts feeling generic (and boring). When I first arrived/stayed in Vancouver downtown, it was no big deal to me. Like it's just the same old stuff. Didn't feel like a special place at all... because I lived/worked in other similar places. Downtown Vancouver wasn't a big deal... 'til I saw the Waterfront area/view and the way/view to Kitsilano. Lol! + the Art Deco Burrard Bridge.

Doesn't even have to be all highrises too. In Singapore I saw these government housing (not skyscraper types) that all looked alike.. As if the place has lost its soul. It was like tenement housing for some reason.. that for a while I thought it must be like being in a communist/socialist-designed community of some sort. It's not a fun experience.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by HelloKitty

Agree. When everything is all concrete highrises around, sometimes, it starts feeling generic (and boring). When I first arrived/stayed in Vancouver downtown, it was no big deal to me. Like it's just the same old stuff. Didn't feel like a special place at all... because I lived/worked in other similar places. Downtown Vancouver wasn't a big deal... 'til I saw the Waterfront area/view and the way/view to Kitsilano. Lol! + the Art Deco Burrard Bridge.

Doesn't even have to be all highrises too. In Singapore I saw these government housing (not skyscraper types) that all looked alike.. As if the place has lost its soul. It was like tenement housing for some reason.. that for a while I thought it must be like being in a communist/socialist-designed community of some sort. It's not a fun experience.

What's the alternative then? Single Family woodframe houses that sprawl as far as the eyes can see, criss-crossed by congested highways? Concrete highrises are the best option in bringing the masses to a certain area, and then we can justify spending the money to build nice things around these neighbourhoods for the residents to enjoy.

For me, Kitsilano, OV and Lonsdale Quay are kinda boring, until I look over the water and see the skyline of downtown, and that is truly spectacular especially at night. These days, Metrotown, Brentwood and other high-rise nodes are looking pretty amazing too, especially viewed from the north shore mountains like Cypress.

[SpongeG]

Sussex metrotown - north of the mall on sussex ave. looks ok, better than what is there currently.



http://www.townline.ca/projects/sussex/

[HelloKitty]

Originally Posted by Vin

What's the alternative then? Single Family woodframe houses that sprawl as far as the eyes can see, criss-crossed by congested highways? Concrete highrises are the best option in bringing the masses to a certain area, and then we can justify spending the money to build nice things around these neighbourhoods for the residents to enjoy.

For me, Kitsilano, OV and Lonsdale Quay are kinda boring, until I look over the water and see the skyline of downtown, and that is truly spectacular especially at night. These days, Metrotown, Brentwood and other high-rise nodes are looking pretty amazing too, especially viewed from the north shore mountains like Cypress.

My input was a response to Marshal's and Osirisboy's last exchange if you go a page back. In that context, as I mentioned in that input of mine, I agree with Marshal re "complexity and difference are good things most of the time"... If everything's all one level all around... whether it's all highrises.. or all lowrise... or all SFHs... or all midrise.. it kinda gets generic. Less character. Especially when a location doesn't have as much culture.. don't know how else to explain it. Lol!

Some cities avoid highrises even... like Copenhagen.

The water I think is like downtown's "saving grace"... The natural beauty + mountains in the distance make it stand out from most other major cities in that sense. That's why I liked it when the Waterfront emerged in view.. as well as the view along Cornwall Ave in Kitsilano.

If the new residential construction along Dawson in Brentwood area are mostly lowrise, I think I kinda get it.. the street's kinda narrow. Maybe there's some zoning rule there? I don't know.. And the high rise ones are being put up along the wider roads (Willingdon/Lougheed). The scale/proportion seems better suited that way.

[BobLoblawsLawBlog]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

Sussex metrotown - north of the mall on sussex ave. looks ok, better than what is there currently.

Hey, that Church was cute and you know it to be true.

[Marshal]

Originally Posted by Cypherus

Sorry to reign in here, but every time I visit this forum I see you are always posting fluff about how everyone is posting static and, apparently, too unintelligent for you. You just come across as a person with a superiority complex who uses this contrived, supercilious attitude while posting run on sentences about the few topics you do know something about....

Ouch! That smarts. "Don't take my style away." To you I could be anyone or anything. It's hard to have a complex when one is a fiction . . . which I am - when I am not obviously being serious about a real topic.

Since its the fashion, I will counter-punch: 1) love youse well crafted hits, and 2) you be a delicate wall-flower?

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Regarding Sussex Metrotown: it's a good location for an expressively more aggressive tower.

[Vin]

Originally Posted by SpongeG

Sussex metrotown - north of the mall on sussex ave. looks ok, better than what is there currently.



http://www.townline.ca/projects/sussex/

I like it how Burnaby allows such tall buildings to be built right beside SFHs. The SFH people don't protest like those in Van or North Van do.

[Dwils01]

The Dawson at the corner of Dawson and Willingdon Avenue.


Madison & Dawson by Porte




Milano




5250 Imperial Street

Pictures by me.