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Old Posted Aug 22, 2009, 10:55 AM
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Very nice T-Mac. I like the creative way you've added on without it looking like an add-on.

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UTA proposes high-density development in Sandy

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705325065/UTA-proposes-Sandy-development.html

SANDY — The Utah Transit Authority is promoting a mixed-use housing development near 10000 South that could double or even triple the current allowed density.

And with the development, UTA is expanding its role from bus- and train-service provider to developer.

The 35 acres at what is now the south end of the TRAX line is owned by UTA, and potential plans include two hotels and two restaurants, in addition to multi-family housing, according to a Tuesday presentation to the City Council...

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UTA proposes high-density development in Sandy

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705325065/UTA-proposes-Sandy-development.html

SANDY — The Utah Transit Authority is promoting a mixed-use housing development near 10000 South that could double or even triple the current allowed density.

And with the development, UTA is expanding its role from bus- and train-service provider to developer.

The 35 acres at what is now the south end of the TRAX line is owned by UTA, and potential plans include two hotels and two restaurants, in addition to multi-family housing, according to a Tuesday presentation to the City Council...

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Now Projects if you were still with us you could participate is the inevitable fight over whether this is a good idea. I like this concept, but I am a little confused about somethings in this article. Deloy said that the break-even point is 23 units an acre...how can this be? I assume that there are four units per acre, so that wold be about 6 floors. The land is relatively cheap out there, so how do others make money around downtown with less than 6 floors? He also talked about the need for subsidies in order to make it work, but this sounds ridiculous. Unless that article is talking about making some of it affordable housing, this sounds like baloney. What am I missing?
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Now Projects if you were still with us you could participate is the inevitable fight over whether this is a good idea. I like this concept, but I am a little confused about somethings in this article. Deloy said that the break-even point is 23 units an acre...how can this be? I assume that there are four units per acre, so that wold be about 6 floors. The land is relatively cheap out there, so how do others make money around downtown with less than 6 floors? He also talked about the need for subsidies in order to make it work, but this sounds ridiculous. Unless that article is talking about making some of it affordable housing, this sounds like baloney. What am I missing?
An acre is 43,000 some odd sq ft. Its quite easy to fit 20-30 units in an acre.
Wasatch is building 30 Plexes on a 12,000 sq ft foootprint right now to the west of where they are talking. 10000 so and 950 west go take a look it's pretty cool they have 4 tower cranes set up!

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I think density along mass transit is a good thing. I prefer infill developments like this rather than expanding our footprint.
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Bench mark: Mogul of Daybreak aims to shape western Salt Lake Valley's future

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705325307/Daybreak-mogul-aims-to-shape-future.html


Don Whyte, president of Kennecott Lands and a key figure in the development of Daybreak, is pressing ahead with more west-bench development plans, despite the uncertain economy. Brendan Sullivan, Deseret News

SOUTH JORDAN — When Don Whyte steps onto the front porch of his two-story Daybreak colonial, he's greeted by a pick-your-superlative panorama of the Salt Lake Valley and Wasatch Mountains' majesty...

...The 55-year-old president of Kennecott Land, who recently logged his second year on the job, is trying to do the rough equivalent of juggling chain saws as he presses forward with west-bench development plans while navigating choppy economic seas. Whyte has one eye sharply peeled on the well-received Daybreak project, which recently celebrated its fifth birthday. Planned for 4,200 acres and 20,000 residences when completed in 2024, it's ambitious by any standard. But it's just the warm-up act...



Daybreak will eventually have TRAX running into the center of the community, allowing residents to easily commute to downtown Salt Lake City. (Brendan Sullivan, Deseret News)


This single-family home is typical of some of the homes found in the Daybreak community. (Brendan Sullivan, Deseret News)


A strip of shops and offices in the Rio Tinto area will soon open in the Daybreak community in South Jordan. (Brendan Sullivan, Deseret News)


Oquirrh Lake in the center of Daybreak is a hot spot for families to bring children to play. (Brendan Sullivan, Deseret News)


...Whyte has seen three significant downturns in his career, and each recovery has been different.

"We may have a different turnaround this time," he said, suggesting this one may be a little slower, although Utah will bounce back earlier, faster and at a higher rate than many other states.

If there's Tao of Whyte, it centers on sustainability — sustainability of the land, resources and the development itself.

"If we develop a community that can't sustain itself long-term, we haven't done anybody a favor," Whyte said...



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Oquirrh Lake in the center of Daybreak is a hot spot for families to bring children to play. (Brendan Sullivan, Deseret News)

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I thought Oquirrh Lake was not safe to swim in... Also, that poor girl needs to be fed.
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I thought Oquirrh Lake was not safe to swim in... Also, that poor girl needs to be fed.
Where did you hear that? I hadn't heard of any warnings or even tests of water quality. It would make sense though, that they at least need to do quality testing to find out if anything is leaching into the lake. If it isn't safe to swim in, then it definitely isn't safe to fish in, which would make all those stocked fish happy... or maybe sad... heavy metals aren't good for the complexion.
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Oquirrh is tested, and yes it's safe to swim in.

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One of the land office ladies told us it's okay to wade, but against the rules to swim (feet leave the ground). My guess is it's because they don't want swimmers mixing in with the kayaks and stuff.
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Holladay could grow up
Zoning » Planners propose new rules for commercial areas

By Rosemary Winters
The Salt Lake Tribune

Holladay » As dreams of a quaint Village Center start to take shape in this leafy east-side suburb, planners here hope to extend the vision to the city's other commercial clusters.
The Holladay Planning Commission has recommended the City Council revise its two, dated commercial zones and create a new one, "neighborhood commercial," to allow small, neighborhood businesses -- a concept that exists in places such as Salt Lake City's 15th and 15th district.

But the council has expressed concerns about the building heights that could come with the new zones.

The proposed limits, Councilman Lynn Pace warns, are "way too high" and would dwarf the adjacent neighborhoods.

One designation, "general commercial," would allow buildings up to five stories (60 feet) in existing commercial areas, such as the west side of Highland Drive near the former Cottonwood Mall. (Currently, the tallest allowed heights in Holladay -- 90 feet -- have been reserved for the stalled mall makeover.)

The other upgraded zoning, "boulevard commercial," would greenlight three-story rooftops in places such as the strip mall at 2700 East and 4000 South that houses Frank Granato Importing.

But both zones would permit the tallest heights -- four or five stories -- only if the commercial building includes housing.

"It's taken some people aback and that's unfortunate," Community Development Director Paul Allred says. "As planners, our job is to look out there. ... Mixed use is really a trend."

It's a trend that's expected to give rise to a three-story, housing and retail building in the Holladay Village Center, which will surround the intersection of Holladay Boulevard, 2300 East and Murray-Holladay Road.

But spreading the concept elsewhere in Holladay, Pace contends, dilutes the impact.

"If you extend that height everywhere in all commercial zones, you lose that sense of a center place," he says. "It would defeat the purpose of a historic village center or a regional center at Cottonwood Mall."

As Salt Lake Valley's 1 million-plus population continues to swell -- the state predicts it will double by 2060 -- Holladay's commercial areas will need either to grow up or out, Allred says. Allowing more density in existing commercial areas could keep shopping centers and office spaces from spilling into neighborhoods.

The "boulevard" and "general" zones would be applied to existing commercial districts. The new "neighborhood" zone would be used case by case, Allred says. It's being created to allow Café Madrid to move from its 3900 South location to a vacant lot at Highland Drive and Spring Lane, which is zoned for housing but was the site of a Pancho Villa restaurant several years ago.

"I feel like a pioneer," Café Madrid owner Gabrielle McAffee says. "The neighborhood has been supportive -- 100 percent -- which is great."

McAffee, who is from northern Spain, says adapting zoning rules to allow neighborhood bistros and shops could give Holladay a European flair.

Holladay's proposed commercial zones also would allow buildings to line the sidewalk and share parking so that visitors are not greeted by a sea of stalls. Interesting architecture and landscaping could be required. The idea, Allred says, is to make business districts more walkable.

Mayor Dennis Webb agrees the commercial regulations need a face-lift, but expects the council to tweak the Planning Commission's proposals.

"We've got to do it prudently," the mayor says. "We've got to do it so it doesn't impact neighborhoods surrounding commercial zones negatively."



New heights proposed for Holladay

C-1 zone » Would become "boulevard commercial" (BC). Allowed heights would increase from 25 feet (about two stories) to 38 feet (three stories). But a mixed-use building, with housing and commercial, could go up to 48 feet (possibly four stories).

C-2 zone » Would become "general commercial" (GC). Allowed heights would rise from 35 feet to 48 feet. But a mixed-use building, with housing, could go up to 60 feet (as many as five stories).

Neighborhood commercial » Would be a new zone, applied case by case, to allow small restaurants or other neighborhood businesses in a residential area. Buildings could be no taller than two stories.


What's next

» The Holladay City Council plans to discuss the zoning changes in September. The council could decide whether to adopt the new commercial zones as soon as October or November.
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An old West standard to be Park City's newest attraction
Liquor » Chef renovating house as a restaurant and a historic livery to be a distillery.

http://www.sltrib.com/news/ci_13186441

...The High West Distillery and Saloon is just weeks away from its first belch -- or whatever sound it is that stills make -- as they transform corn or rye into that magical American libation called whiskey.

"It will be the world's first ski-in gastro-distillery," Perkins said with a smile.



Workers put the finishing touches on the old National Garage on Park Avenue in Park City. The renovated building will be the home of The High West Distillery and Saloon.

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Oquirrh ski resort still a possibility



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For years, tales of a mystical skiers' paradise tucked deep in the Oquirrh Mountains captured the fancy of Utahns.

Then late in 2007, Kennecott Land, a subsidiary of Rio Tinto Ltd., announced it was going to turn fable into reality by building a west-bench Shangri-La of its own, although no timetable was provided.

"I've been up to the area where we think there's some potential, and it looks good," Whyte reassures. "We have three years of (snow) studies right now … and it does look like there's enough snow."

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/705325253/Oquirrh-ski-resort-still-a-possibility.html
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One of the land office ladies told us it's okay to wade, but against the rules to swim (feet leave the ground). My guess is it's because they don't want swimmers mixing in with the kayaks and stuff.
It's probably because they don't have lifeguards on duty.
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I think that the lake is pretty safe. They didn't just dig a hole and fill it with water. The lake bed is completely lined and the whole thing is pretty intricately engineered. More info:
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good news for condo and new home sales!

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New restaurants to face liquor hurdle
Alcohol » New eateries will have a difficult time competing with established ones.

http://www.sltrib.com/business/ci_13201794

...only 12 licenses are available to be snapped up by the more than 150 restaurants expected to go after them by the end of this fiscal year. Beer licenses -- commonly given out to sports arenas, golf courses and bowling alleys -- are unlimited.

And if a new-restaurant owner wants to include a full bar, only one such permit is available...



Pedestrians look into the Taliskers on Main restaurant under construction at 515 Main St. in Park City. Even though it won't be ready to open for a few months, the owners planned ahead and received one of the few remaining licenses to sell all types of alcohol. Only one full-service liquor license is left. (Al Hartmann / The Salt Lake Tribune)


...Angie Welling, spokeswoman for Gov. Gary Herbert, said her boss supports taking a look at the current quota system "to determine if changes need to be made. In advance of such an analysis, however, he is not prepared" to comment, she said Tuesday.

The new governor could make his own mark on Utah's liquor laws.


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A tour of Treasure, with Sweeney as the guide

Developer will lead officials, regular Parkites on a walkabout of the site

http://www.parkrecord.com/ci_13201546

Park City - The Sweeney family on Wednesday will lead a walking tour of the land where it wants to build the disputed Treasure development, a rare chance for City Hall officials and regular Parkites to learn about the project while at the site talking to the developer.

The visit to Treasure, situated on a hillside overlooking Old Town and just off streets like Lowell Avenue and Empire Avenue, will come as the Sweeneys continue to try to convince the Park City Planning Commission that the Treasure blueprints fit with an earlier approval for the site and nearby developments.

The tour is scheduled to start at 4:30 p.m. at the Town Bridge and last 90 minutes. It is part of the Planning Commission's meeting, and it is open to the public...
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New hospital enters final sprint
Local board ensures hospital fits the community


http://www.parkrecord.com/ci_13201655?source=most_viewed


The Park City Medical Center at Quinn's Junction won't admit its first patient until Sept. 15, but the halls are already teeming with activity. Last week, painters in overalls and electricians in tool belts were still weaving through throngs of new employees in an effort to have everything perfect for the building's community debut...


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We had a nice discussion on In-and-Out Burger coming to Utah in Draper. I don't know if anybody knows this or if it was discussed, but I just drove through Jordan Landing and they are putting one there as well.
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