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Alderman says there will be no LRT money from province

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Councillor Sam Merulla says the provincial government won’t provide Hamilton with the funding it is expecting for rapid transit.

“I’ve been informed that the money is not forthcoming from the province,” Merulla said Monday.

However, the city’s director of rapid transit, the press secretary for the Minister of Transportation and a representative from the Hamilton Chamber of Commerce say they’ve received no indication that the province is pulling back on Hamilton’s LRT funding.

“To be perfectly honest, we don’t know where those comments are coming from,” said Kelly Baker, press secretary to Minister of Transportation Kathleen Wynne. “We’re committed to building transit in Hamilton.”

Merulla made the comments in open session during Monday’s public works meeting just before an update from Jill Stephen, the city’s director of rapid transit.

“We’re at the point where the entire community is engaged in a discussion that is more of a concept than a reality,” Merulla said. “I don’t want to go through a dog and pony show.”

Later, Merulla said he heard the information from a “Queen’s Park source,” but wouldn’t offer any specifics.

“The bottom line is Hamilton won’t be seeing the promised amount,” he wrote in an e-mail. “Also, we are last or near last on the priority list. We won’t be a priority for about a decade or more.”

Stephen said the city hasn’t heard anything official from either the province or its transportation agency, Metrolinx, about funding. She added her team would consider a public-private partnership if necessary.

“A question that we’ve had is how much is this going to cost the city, and in terms of how we answer that, we’re going to look at how this can be paid for,” Stephen said. “Nothing’s off the table at this point.”

Ministry of Transportation representatives said the fact Hamilton just received $22.5 million to build the Pan Am stadium shouldn’t affect the city’s chances of getting funding for LRT.

“There’s no connection between one and the other,” said Baker.

Richard Koroscil, Hamilton Chamber of Commerce representative and CEO of John C. Munro Hamilton International Airport, said he also hasn’t heard anything from the province about Hamilton’s LRT funding. The chamber has been actively encouraging the city to lobby the province for that money.

“I’m not even sure we really made our ask yet,” he said. “I still encourage the city to get out there.”
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Old Posted Feb 8, 2011, 12:13 AM
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I heard this about 2 weeks ago from a very reliable Queens Park source. They said they would not have any money for Hamilton or some other projects in other communities. They are at least $1 billion short on funding money for transit in this province. You have a better chance getting funding for a small project than a large one. And no money from the feds!
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glad they are blowing 22 million extra on a stadium then
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Everyone in the province is on a 10 year time frame. If you expect once council has approved the routing to start construction immediately (or within a short order) one would have to be daft.

That doesn't mean money isn't coming, and doesn't mean the project is dead. The government needs votes in Hamilton just as much as they do in Waterloo.
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glad they are blowing 22 million extra on a stadium then
I know I mean come on.
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glad they are blowing 22 million extra on a stadium then
Unfortunately keeping a football team means so much more to this city than addressing transit capacity issues and investing in economic development. For every step Hamilton takes forward, it seems like 3 steps are taken back.
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Unfortunately keeping a football team means so much more to this city than addressing transit capacity issues and investing in economic development. For every step Hamilton takes forward, it seems like 3 steps are taken back.
It's much easier to make the argument that the existing stadium is very near obsolescence than it is to make the argument that the HSR does not have appropriate capacity. Myself, I would much rather see a Hamilton with a CFL team and no light rail than a Hamilton with no CFL team and light rail. Such comparisons are also largely apples and oranges, as most of the funding does indeed come from different buckets.
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end-of-life of the facilities is one thing. But when there is more priority given to a private sports team which "showcases" hamilton on TV 8 times a year (if you can call that area of the city a showcase) to a fanbase that is aging and dwindling...

I mean, LRT is about economic development, it's about a public necessity to get around the city for work and play...

It's just astounding to me the total divergence of opinion when it comes to spending. The knee jerk in this city for football is "spend whatever it takes" and the knee jerk for transit is "cut spending". Priorities more out of whack than Cameron's father.
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I can understand looking at the stadium and LRT together in terms of costs, but if the city is going to do LRT there's a lot of other things in the budget that need to be looked at. For instance the police budget. If I can recall it is going up by about 5% this year, mostly due to increased wages. Personally I would much prefer to keep the budget increase at something reasonable like 2 to 3% and use the saved money for the LRT. Would some difficult choices have to be made? Sure. Two weeks ago at around 9:30 pm I saw two cops from the equestrian unit clipclopping down Bay Street South with nary an individual in sight. Sure the equestrian unit might be good PR for trying to shake down the taxpayer for more cash, but it is just a waste of money.
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I would expect that menitoning the stadium in this forum is more about trolling for reaction than attempting a sicere discussion on the status of rapid transit. However, on the off-chance that the comments are being made sincerely, I have to say that BCTed is correct when he says, from a provincial funding perspective, we are talking different buckets here.

The province is putting $57.5 million towards the $152 million cost of the stadium. $35 million is coming through TO2015 funding and the rest is being channelled directly from the province to the city.

The proposed LRT has a current estimated cost of $800 million, and the city is hoping the feds and province will cover $670 million of that cost. Assuming an even fed/prov split, $335 is the provincial portion towards LRT. This money will be coming from Metrolinx's $4.85 billion capital budget that it has allocated for their Category 3 projects, of which Hamilton RT is one of 15 projects.
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I am not trolling for anything. I am commenting on opinions I have read from staff, council and the general public who it appears simply cannot see the value in transit spending. When a councillor spews this kind of rumour it is doing us no favours in terms of transit future.
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LRT neighbourhood planning meetings to begin

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Hamiltonians will have a chance to bring their vision for a light-rail transit corridor to life during a series of public meetings around six key neighbourhoods along the proposed route.

Citizens and local architects will be tasked the next few weeks with creating conceptual designs for buildings and public areas around station stops on Queenston, King and Main streets. The wider public will be able to provide comments on the designs, which will then be considered in drafting policies on land uses, building heights, densities and urban design elements.

In the event of a strike by city workers, the meetings listed below will be cancelled and rescheduled.

Stakeholders such as home and business owners, community groups and business improvement associations have been invited to design sessions with local architects who will use software to create 3D conceptual drawings from the group’s input.

Those concepts will be shown to the public for comment in evening sessions.

“The idea is to stimulate discussion on growth, change and transformation in the corridor,” said Christine Newbold, senior project manager on the city’s transit team.

The six study areas were chosen to represent the wide variety of neighbourhoods along the route and for their potential for transit-spurred development, said Newbold.

“The question is how to make those areas places of activity, vibrant people places.”

Hamilton is about halfway — at five on a scale of 1 to 10 — in its LRT design process, says Jill Stephen, the city’s director of rapid transit.

A lot of the big work has been done, says Stephen, including choosing a route and stop locations, analyzing traffic and subsurface impacts and developing a financing model.

Still to come are the heavy technical engineering drawings and details and an environmental assessment.

Stephen says the goal will be to reach level six by the end of the year. That will bring design work to a 30 per cent design, meaning the project can be easily visualized and there are some measurements in place.

“You couldn’t build it from that design, but the big elements are in place. You can show it to people and they can see what it will look like running past their door. and what kind of impacts it will have on intersections and driveways.”

An environmental assessment must also be completed by the end of the year. Under an agreement with Metrolinx, the city received $3 million for design work in exchange for meeting milestone deadlines.

A notice of commencement for an environmental assessment was issued Friday. That kicks off four months of consultations, a month of appeals and questions and then the province has 35 days to render a decision.

Stephen says the transit EA process is scaled down from others.

“It’s based on the premise that transit is a good idea, so we don’t have to prove that.”

The grounds for appeal are also narrower.

Stephen says there is likely at least another year of design work ahead beyond the work being completed in 2011. Construction of the 16-kilometre corridor from Eastgate Square to McMaster University will take several years.

Councillor Chad Collins wonders if all this design work isn’t putting the cart before the horse, because the city doesn’t know what its ultimate financial contribution will be.

There is nothing allocated in the capital budget, so Collins says the money will have to come from cutting back in other areas or from a tax increase. He says he doesn’t believe Hamilton taxpayers have an appetite for either option.

“My concern is that this is starting to look a lot like the (Pan Am) stadium debate. We’re talking about buying property in some instances … and we don’t have a clear understanding of the roles and responsibilities the city will have.”

Collins says LRT is an important public debate, but until costs and senior government funding are known, the ongoing design work may be for nothing.

After years of controversy, Waterloo Region council this week voted 9-2 to build an $818-million, 19-kilometre rail system.

Unlike Hamilton, the project in Waterloo has been the subject of organized and vocal citizen opposition, and also has the backing of up to $565 million in provincial and federal funding. Nothing has been allocated to Hamilton.

Waterloo taxpayers will face up to a 7 per cent tax hike to pay for the transit upgrade, phased in over seven years. That’s a total of about $450 between 2012 and 2018 on a home assessed at $254,000.

The trains are expected to be running by 2017.

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LRT design workshops

Longwood Road and Main Street West study area

Grace Evangelical Lutheran Church

1107 Main St. W. (at Cline Avenue)

Tuesday, June 21, at 7 p.m.


The Queenston Traffic Circle and Parkdale Avenue study area

St. Columba Presbyterian Church

1540 Main St. E. (at Weir Street)

Thursday, June 23, at 7 p.m.


Dundurn Street and King Street West study area

The Scottish Rite Round Room

4 Queen St. S. (at King Street)

Monday, June 27 at 7 p.m.


The Delta and Ottawa Street study area

Delta United Church

47 Ottawa St. S.

Tuesday, June 28 at 7 p.m.


Wentworth Street and King Street East study area

Festival Banquet Centre

747 King St. E.

Tuesday, July 5 at 7 p.m.


Nash Road and Queenston Road study area

Red Hill branch of the Hamilton Public Library

695 Queenston Rd.

Wednesday July 6, 7 p.m.

The conceptual designs will be available for viewing and comment at www.hamilton.ca/nodesandcorridors until July 22.
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Keynote speaker Paul Bedford, a member of the Metrolinx board of directors and a former chief planner for Toronto, bluntly pointed out the absence.

“There are no politicians here and that disappoints me. The mayor should be here and the whole damn council. Political leadership is essential. You need champions who push and make a lot of noise.”
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Notice of Commencement of Transit Project Assessment Process
B-Line Rapid Transit Project

The Project

The City of Hamilton has developed a plan for the introduction of Rapid Transit (RT) in the B-Line corridor between McMaster University and Eastgate Square within the next five years. This is part of a strategic plan to enhance transit service in high demand transportation corridors over the next 25 years and beyond.

In 2009, the City completed a Rapid Transit Feasibility Study, which demonstrated overwhelming public support for Light Rail Transit (LRT) and that the introduction of LRT along the B-Line corridor is technically feasible. Further study work since then has refined the project and support has been reinforced through extensive public consultation during 2010 and early 2011.

This project involves the introduction of high frequency Rapid Transit service using LRT. The 13.4 km line will run along Main Street between McMaster University and Highway 403, along King Street from Highway 403 through Downtown to the junction of King Street and Main Street, and along Main Street and Queenston Road to Eastgate Square. In addition to the terminus stations at McMaster University and Eastgate Square, line stations will be strategically located along the route for access by walking, cycling and north-south bus routes.


This map identifies the study boundary of the project.
The Process

This project is being implemented in accordance with Ontario Regulation 231/08, Transit Projects and Greater Toronto Transportation Authority Undertakings (Transit Projects Regulation) of the Environmental Assessment Act. An Environmental Project Report is being prepared as part of the Transit Project Assessment Process (TPAP) activities and will be available for public review by fall of this year. All information produced as part of this project is available on the City’s Rapid Transit website: www.hamiltonrapidtransit.ca.

Consultation

Members of public, agencies and other interested parties are encouraged to participate actively in this process by attending consultation opportunities or contacting staff directly with information, comments or questions. The City will continue to engage and consult all stakeholders throughout the TPAP period, leading to a series of Public Information Centres (PICs) scheduled for the fall of this year to present the proposed B-Line project. Additional information presented at the PICs will include how the RT plan will be integrated with the City’s land use planning initiatives in the B-Line corridor. Details of the PICs will be published at a later date, posted on our website and distributed through the project’s mailing list.

If you would like to be added to the project mailing list, provide comments or obtain more information, please contact:

City of Hamilton, Rapid Transit Team, Public Works Department
77 James Street North, Suite 400, Hamilton, ON L8R 2K3
Phone: 905-546-2424 Ext. 2553, Fax: 905-546-4435
Email: [email protected] <mailto:[email protected]>
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In an interview, Bratina said the city’s current unemployment rate of 5.4 per cent shows the economy is performing well and that shows the city is on the right track.

On the thorny transit issues, he said he’s fully supportive of expanded GO service, but has reservations about the LRT plan. He also doesn’t think there’s wide public support for the plan.

“We still haven’t figured out what all the costs of that are going to be,” he said. “We’re not hearing any kind of clamour from the public on that file.”

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Bratina is on CHML right now, talking about LRT.
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He would like to consult Bob Young on the matter... He (BY) may take the Tabbies away again if Hamilton takes up any major roads with tracks. Also this will take people out of their cars that could be paying premium parking at the "new looking" stadium..


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