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Old Posted Oct 22, 2014, 5:19 AM
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Scottk... I just don't see that happening. While some parts of the country are doing quiet well, other parts are still grinding along at best.

Europe is struggling and will likely do stimulus of some sort. Asia is grinding but but hanging in there. Same with LatAm.

The one fly in the ointment is if crude prices were to continue to sell down and stay down as oil drilling would be curtailed. But that's also a bad news, good news thing. Falling oil prices is immediately stimulative as it puts more money in people's pockets and consumers are still 70% of our domestic economy. Lower crude prices also would benefit all non-producing nations, especially Asia.

The global economy continues to be uneven, jagged so we're nowhere near being overheated. Not even close.

What's unique is the great urbanization that is occurring in this country. Have we become too dependent on tech? Possibly but there's no bounds to ways that tech can be applied so I'll guess we keep on chugging along. Additionally I think we will continue to see capital inflows into the country as we still appear to be the most stable and healthy place to invest.
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Five Points Neighborhood Pops With 17 Development Projects

This article comes from CREJ.com's online edition:

written by Jill Jamieson-Nichols

The former Deep Rock bottling building is just the latest property to change hands in Five Points, where the first of 17 development projects will get underway this fall.

“It reminds me of Highland 15 years ago,” said Tom Welsh of Welsh Commercial LLC.

“The Welton Street corridor is very active and alive right now.I think the market has wanted redevelopment and reinvestment to occur on Welton Street for several decades, but a lot of things had to happen for that to come together,” added Chris Coble of Black Label Real Estate LLC

A sampling of projects planned to break ground this fall and next spring includes:

• 2300 Welton, 223 multifamily workforce apartments;

• 2422-2460 Welton, a mixeduse building with market-rate apartments, 3,000 square feet of retail and 14 for-sale townhomes;

• 2650 Welton, a block that contains the historic Rossonian Hotel and will include a 128-room hotel, 40 condos and two restaurants;

• 2714 Welton, the historic arcade building that now houses Rosenberg's Bagels and Delicatessen, along with upper-floor residential space;


• 2821-2843 Welton, a five-story mixed-use project with groundlevel retail and parking, and 66 market-rate apartments;

• 2942-2944 Welton, which will be redeveloped into the NuROOT Innovate Office Space for emerging businesses; and

• East 24th Avenue and Washington Street, 26 townhomes.


"When you look at how many properties have traded in the last 18 months, there's not a lot left that you can buy," said Coble, who handled the $3.35 million sale of the Deep Rock building, a 23,563-sf building with a 3,456-sf mezzanine at 2501 Welton. The property, across from the 25th and Welton light-rail station, wasn't actively marketed.

"The interest really kicked up after the property was under contract and people found out about it. Since then, and since closing, there have been a long list of people who have wanted to purchase the property again from the new buyer."

Coble - along with Welsh, who represented the buyer - are marketing the building for lease. The building has high ceilings, rollup garage doors and dock-high doors, and the mezzanine could be expanded. Zoning and lightrail make it suitable for a range of uses, they said. "It's perfect for a creative, shared office use, restaurant, brewpub, grocery - any number of different tenants that want a place on a main street corridor in front of a light-rail station," said Coble.

"Investors really see the value of rail, especially now that it's being built everywhere," he added.

"It is the largest building on that strip. It's an important piece, and that street is important to the city," said Welsh.

Five Points' resurgence has been by design, according to Tracy Winchester, executive director of Five Points Business District, a nonprofit that has championed the neighborhood since forming five years ago.

“This just wasn’t a happy coincidence.It’s been in motion since 2009,” she said. The district led creation of a vision plan for the area, which calls for Welton Street to be a multicultural entertainment district rooted in African- American history that is viewed as a destination for arts, culture and music. The vision is to create a central gathering place for adjacent neighborhoods and a place that provides retail goods and services relevant to the community.

A host of planning efforts, including a revitalization strategy and streetcar study, were completed, with support of the city, state and U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development.In 2012, the Five Points Business District worked with the Denver Urban Renewal Authority to have the neighborhood declared an urban renewal area.

“When the corridor became an urban renewal area in 2012, I think that’s what really started things in motion with the developers because now they had some incentive to come in and work with the property owners,” Winchester said. The district also actively engaged with property owners – there are approximately 105 owners from 20th and Welton streets to 30th and Downing Street. Helping them understand that if they improved properties, there would be tenants willing to lease them, for instance, has led to new businesses, which include Urban Herbs and Purple Door Coffee.

Winchester called Welton Street “one of the key spokes in the downtown urban center” that, with new retail and a coming mix of housing, is becoming increasingly attractive to a range of demographics, including millennials.

“We’re prime, and we’re prime for people who want to live in the center of town, people who want to take light rail to work,” she said.

As part of the larger Arapahoe Square area, “It’s the next RiNo, it’s the next Highland,” said Welsh.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 22, 2014, 5:45 PM
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Wow.. way to go Five Points!
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 22, 2014, 6:22 PM
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^^ Agreed

Thanks for the great update DownhomeDenver.
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Does anyone know what is going up along 17th opposite of city Park?
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 23, 2014, 4:02 AM
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Does anyone know what is going up along 17th opposite of city Park?
I think I know what you're talking about...it's a fenced off corner at Adams or Cook where a lot of dirt has been dug out. I think it's supposed to be some multifamily development but I can't recall where I know that from or if it's even rental or for sale. Sorry not very helpful
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 23, 2014, 5:02 AM
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"Denver ranks 4th for likely commercial real estate investment in 2015."

So states the headline at DBJ (HERE) in reporting on the annual "Emerging Trends in Real Estate."
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"In the past several years, we reported that real estate market participants' main fears revolved around the uncertainty with the economy. Now, the trepidation in their eyes has more to do with the ability of the growing real estate markets to adapt to a series of mega-trends impacting society and the global economy. These mega-trends include accelerating urbanization, demographic shifts and the impact of distributive technological advancements," Roschelle said.
Denver is benefiting not from being a favored gateway/coastal city but as a (hidden) gem in "flyover country."
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"Investors are looking closely at opportunities beyond the core markets," said Patrick Phillips, global CEO of ULI. "These cities are positioning themselves as highly competitive in terms of livability, employment offerings and recreational and cultural amenities."
Yay, More Good News


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Old Posted Oct 23, 2014, 1:59 PM
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I think I know what you're talking about...it's a fenced off corner at Adams or Cook where a lot of dirt has been dug out. I think it's supposed to be some multifamily development but I can't recall where I know that from or if it's even rental or for sale. Sorry not very helpful

That's they the one, thanks! It's a pretty sizeable pit so I was wondering how big that project was or if there were any renderings.
     
     
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That's they the one, thanks! It's a pretty sizeable pit so I was wondering how big that project was or if there were any renderings.
Are you referring to the 198 unit multi-family building posted on CityScape back on 8/26?

http://www.denver-cityscape.com/
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 24, 2014, 1:20 AM
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Are you referring to the 198 unit multi-family building posted on CityScape back on 8/26?

http://www.denver-cityscape.com/
No, that's on York and I was just over there...the existing buildings are still intact.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 24, 2014, 4:10 AM
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That definitely points to a large (500+ room) hotel on Block 162 being viable. There are at least 3 hotel proposals in the Union Station area, Z Block in Lodo and the under construction Art Hotel at 12th & Broadway. One is rumored for Lower Highland too behind Amato's, possibly a 21c Museum Hotel. I think we could see one as part of the eventual Market Station redevelopment.
A not so surprising perhaps but still Good News followup.

"Denver heads toward record year for convention attendance"
The headline in a well done article in the DBJ by Ed Sealover HERE.
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Denver is on pace for its best convention year ever, with the number of delegates flocking to the Mile High City through the first nine months of 2014 outnumbering those who came here during the city's record-breaking 2013.
The info on Page 2 of the article paints an especially impressive picture.
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"Usually, when you add rooms to a city, you will see an overall drop in occupancy and average room rate unless you also increase demand," Scharf said. "However, this year, the demand is so significant that we have been able to absorb more than 600 new hotel rooms and still see an increase in occupancy and rate."
BG918, I think your suggestion of a 500+ room hotel is spot on so it will be interesting to see what develops with Block 162. I still have a fantasy around a mammoth project that goes right over & straddles the Bubba Gump Shrimp building. That could be awesome.
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Does anyone recall or are familiar with how the bond financing on the convention center and hotel were structured? I seem to recall it was based on future revenue from a lodging tax and did it also include restaurants? I assume there was a minimum annual payment. I'm curious if as the revenue has continued to rise from that tax does it all go to paying off the bonds or do they put some aside for a rainy day or how does that work?
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I can't find the article or even remember where I read it earlier today. I skimmed through it and it was talking about young successful adults now prefer luxury high rise living to buying houses.

This goes great with another article I read on yahoo (which means its probably half made up) that I can't find, but Denver is the number one spot in the nation for college grads to move. If I recall though it was as a % of the population though. So like NYC had the most but because its population it was in like 10th place or something.

Great potential for some new high rises downtown.
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RyanD... That is really, really cool.


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I can't find the article or even remember where I read it earlier today. I skimmed through it and it was talking about young successful adults now prefer luxury high rise living to buying houses.

This goes great with another article I read on yahoo (which means its probably half made up) that I can't find, but Denver is the number one spot in the nation for college grads to move. If I recall though it was as a % of the population though. So like NYC had the most but because its population it was in like 10th place or something.

Great potential for some new high rises downtown.
Interesting. I have Yahoo! for my Home Page but didn't happen to see this. While Yahoo! does have some original content they're mostly an aggregator so the efficacy depends on the source.

Such articles usually come from one of the business sites. Regardless that's all good news. Denver does have a couple of mid-rises under construction with EnV and The Platform. Additionally Denver SkyHouse and Eviva Cherokee should be breaking ground any day (tsk tsk). But I assume you're thinking BIG. Well The Confluence is on deck as well. But maybe even more and even Tall Boys? It could happen.

You also triggered another thought. I've discussed how Arizona has created the biggest university in the country at ASU. Yet their economy continues to limp along. Wouldn't be surprised if many ASU grads find their way to the Mile High City.
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RyanD... That is really, really cool.



Interesting. I have Yahoo! for my Home Page but didn't happen to see this. While Yahoo! does have some original content they're mostly an aggregator so the efficacy depends on the source.

Such articles usually come from one of the business sites. Regardless that's all good news. Denver does have a couple of mid-rises under construction with EnV and The Platform. Additionally Denver SkyHouse and Eviva Cherokee should be breaking ground any day (tsk tsk). But I assume you're thinking BIG. Well The Confluence is on deck as well. But maybe even more and even Tall Boys? It could happen.

You also triggered another thought. I've discussed how Arizona has created the biggest university in the country at ASU. Yet their economy continues to limp along. Wouldn't be surprised if many ASU grads find their way to the Mile High City.
Well Republican controlled areas tend to be lagging in the economic side cause...well lets not get into it. But it amazing how big Arizona universities are becoming. They are more like "for profit schools".
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You mean like that economic laggard Texas?
     
     
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The article about college grads moving to Denver was in the NY Times earlier this week.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/20/upshot...hoosing-to-live.html?_r=0&abt=0002&abg=1
     
     
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The article about college grads moving to Denver was in the NY Times earlier this week.

http://www.nytimes.com/2014/10/20/upshot...hoosing-to-live.html?_r=0&abt=0002&abg=1
Goat12... Thanks for the link. That's a really good read. Forgoing the data and highlighting the "cool," there's this:
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Denver has many of the tangible things young people want, economists say, including mountains, sunshine and jobs in booming industries like tech. Perhaps more important, it also has the ones that give cities the perception of cultural cool, like microbreweries and bike-sharing and an acceptance of marijuana and same-sex marriage.

“With lots of cultural things to do and getting away to the mountains, you can have the work-play balance more than any place I’ve ever lived,” said Colleen Douglass, 27, a video producer at Craftsy, a start-up with online classes for crafts. “There’s this really thriving start-up scene here, and the sense we can be in a place we love and work at a cool new company but not live in Silicon Valley.”
One of the things that Denver is doing right and a lot of the credit goes to Downtown Denver Partnership is making millennials feel welcome and trying to involve them in downtown aspirations.
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You mean like that economic laggard Texas?
The NYT article which largely pulls its information from a report by CityObservatory focuses on the migration of the "young and restless" ie. millennials especially college grads. The result is that urban centers are seeing the most attraction from this crowd. In this respect comoneymaker's observation is generally but not exclusively correct. For whatever reason Austin is completely overlooked which is big hole in an otherwise very good article and analysis.

The bias is also towards tech-related jobs as apposed to the industrial migration over the last couple of decades to The South and Republican, Right to Work states. Texas is a story unto itself.
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