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Old Posted Aug 8, 2025, 1:34 PM
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To be sure, the sentence could use two additional commas, and then it is more clear.

From: This section of trail begins at Trabert Avenue near Monday Night Brewing’s parking lot and ends after crossing under I-75 at Tanyard Creek, for a total length of 1.2 miles.

To: This section of trail begins at Trabert Avenue near Monday Night Brewing’s parking lot and ends, after crossing under I-75, at Tanyard Creek, for a total length of 1.2 miles.
Better, but still not really correct since it is not "AT" Tanyard Creek. You have to turn and go about 600' to reach the creek. I walked through the underpass a couple of years ago, but not all the way to the creek.

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Old Posted Aug 8, 2025, 2:29 PM
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Better, but still not really correct since it is not "AT" Tanyard Creek. You have to turn and go about 600' to reach the creek. I walked through the underpass a couple of years ago, but not all the way to the creek
Yes, that's exactly what 3B will do. After crossing under I-75, it turns east to Tanyard Creek and it terminates at Tanyard Creek, where the existing trail picks up.

So this statement is correct, isn't it? "This section of trail begins at Trabert Avenue near Monday Night Brewing’s parking lot and ends at Tanyard Creek, for a total length of 1.2 miles."

Maybe them adding "after crossing under I-75" is what's confusing you? But the trail does indeed terminate at Tanyard Creek, after crossing under I-75.
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Old Posted Aug 8, 2025, 3:18 PM
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This under-construction 1.2 mile section of trail begins at Trabert Avenue near Monday Night Brewing's Parking lot, and will end at the existing Tanyard Creek Trail.
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Old Posted Aug 13, 2025, 12:42 PM
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Beltline presented on proposed transit updates. Via AlexIp on Bluesky.



3 Routes with bi-directional service
- Beltline loop (blue)
- Northern loop (red)
- Southern loop (yellow)
20-minute headways
- Average 10-minute headways at
each station


No idea if any of this can/will happen, especially since the Mayor blocked rail on the NE segment, and there's no support for transit at the Federal level in this administration.
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Old Posted Aug 13, 2025, 5:03 PM
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2025, 12:03 AM
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Atlanta Beltline CEO: Eastside Trail light rail no longer makes sense

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The potential for extended disruptions to businesses along the Beltline’s most popular stretch of trail played a significant role in the City of Atlanta and Atlanta Beltline Inc.’s decision to cancel light rail plans between downtown and Ponce City Market earlier this year.

That’s one insight shared this week by Clyde Higgs, Beltline CEO and president, during an in-depth, sit-down interview with WABE host Rose Scott on the “Closer Look” program.

The Monday interview came a few days after Beltline designers detailed tentative plans for an estimated $3.5-billion transit expansion outlook around the 22-mile loop, for which funding has not been identified.

Back in April 2023, MARTA’s Board of Directors unanimously approved a formal measure to begin work extending downtown’s current streetcar loop to the Eastside Trail and on to Ponce City Market, an effort expected to cost roughly $230 million, with fare service beginning (per the most recent estimates) in 2028.

Two years later, city and Beltline officials shocked many in Atlanta's real estate and urbanist communities by announcing those plans were off.

In his WABE interview, Higgs said installing a light rail system on the Eastside Trail would have taken at least five years and would have caused a “disturbance” to adjacent businesses and job hubs for the duration.

“I don’t think Eastside [Trail] rail makes sense at this point,” Higgs told Scott. “You’re going to shut down a lot of businesses if you were to do light rail… that’s going to be a major challenge.”

Higgs acknowledged the “the world has changed in the last 15 years” since earlier Beltline transit plans were conceived, and the recent transit study has shown that other technologies such as autonomous vehicles would cost a fraction of light rail.

“We’re not saying no transit [on the Eastside Trail]—we’re just having a debate on the type of transit,” said Higgs.

Light-rail transit remains in plans—and in demand—for other sections of the Beltline loop, especially among “transit-dependent communities” along the Southside Trail, where the corridor is “still kind of this open greenfield opportunity,” per Higgs.

An estimate cost of $270 million for 42 transit vehicles in the recent transit study is a reference to light-rail trains and not autonomous pods or other vehicles, Higgs noted.

Regarding trail construction, Higgs said 13 miles of the mainline loop is open today, and four additional miles are still on schedule to debut before 2026 FIFA World Cup matches kick off in June. All mainline trails remain on pace to open by 2030.

Listen to the full interview here.
If there are any lawyers out there reading this, we want to file a class action lawsuit against the Beltline to retake the funds we apportioned to them for this project.

First the abandonment of affordable housing on the Beltline, the departure of Ryan Gravel, the annoucement that they wouldn't build the Northwest rail alignment that received the most votes (connecting Bankhead, Westside Paper, West Midtown @ Howell Mill, Ikea, Atlantic Station, Brookwood, and Piedmont Hospital), and today we get this news?

Transit doesn't "make sense" on a dense, established corridor? But it "makes sense" on an "open greenfield"? And we're back to talking about paving a road for vehicles on the Beltline?

This is beyond ridiculous. It's a breach in the public trust. We were promised transit and affordable housing in exhange for our tax money. Instead we got a corrupt project to enrich private investors.
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2025, 5:28 PM
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https://www.bisnow.com/atlanta/news/affo...ent-domain-against-two-apartments-130626

Thank god especially that Azalea one. It is the sketchy boarded up apartments that are right next to the new beltline section where it ramps around these apartments to cross Joseph E Boone Blvd.
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2025, 8:56 PM
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I’m thinking of all the developments, including ponce city market, and all the developments since 2012, that made financial decisions based on future transit plans. The density came because of anticipated transit. The cancellation is very disappointing. I hope someday the plan is revisited.
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https://www.bisnow.com/atlanta/news/affo...ent-domain-against-two-apartments-130626

Thank god especially that Azalea one. It is the sketchy boarded up apartments that are right next to the new beltline section where it ramps around these apartments to cross Joseph E Boone Blvd.
I was greatly encouraged to the city going after these criminals. I have delivered in places that are half burned down, covered in black mold and kudzu, with electricity coming through orange extension cords.

These "landlords" are predators. They should count their lucky stars the city is only seizing the property and not pursuing criminal charges.
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Beltline presented on proposed transit updates. Via AlexIp on Bluesky.



3 Routes with bi-directional service
- Beltline loop (blue)
- Northern loop (red)
- Southern loop (yellow)
20-minute headways
- Average 10-minute headways at
each station


No idea if any of this can/will happen, especially since the Mayor blocked rail on the NE segment, and there's no support for transit at the Federal level in this administration.
They keep danglin' that carrot, eh...?
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Old Posted Aug 24, 2025, 6:29 PM
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New portion of the westside trail



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Old Posted Aug 25, 2025, 4:54 PM
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PATH August updates, including lots of construction on the northwest beltline.

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2?! Storage spots on the beltline on one of the busiest throughfares is overkill right?

could nothing else be built on the plot? remediation issues?
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Old Posted Sep 8, 2025, 7:26 PM
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2?! Storage spots on the beltline on one of the busiest throughfares is overkill right?

could nothing else be built on the plot? remediation issues?
It was a sneaky deal by the Atlanta Botanical Garden to relocate the structure on Piedmont and do the Botanical Garden expansion at the old site. A really raw deal for Atlanta urbanism.
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Old Posted Oct 5, 2025, 8:59 AM
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ICYMI, Segment 5 is near completion. A few bollards and rails still have to be installed. The ribbon cutting will be on October 30.
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It was a sneaky deal by the Atlanta Botanical Garden to relocate the structure on Piedmont and do the Botanical Garden expansion at the old site. A really raw deal for Atlanta urbanism.
Urban planning in Atlanta is severely lacking in strong governmental involvement. Both land redevelopment and new construction are left to the unchecked whims of private developers, often resulting in absurd and embarrassing situations. Meanwhile, the voices of ordinary citizens seem to be completely ignored. Once again, there are simply too many ugly new buildings in Atlanta.
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2?! Storage spots on the beltline on one of the busiest throughfares is overkill right?

could nothing else be built on the plot? remediation issues?
This site should logically have been developed into a residential complex that could bring some vitality to the BeltLine. Instead, they built a lifeless, tomb-like self-storage facility. Many residents have long voiced their objections and protests, yet no powerful government authority or organization has stepped in to mediate or take action. It’s truly ridiculous.
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I think the Botanical Garden being able to expand and have direct access to the beltline is worth sacrificing a lot that is already adjacent to another storage facility. As much as they suck, it seems like there is enough demand for these facilities or they wouldn't be getting built. Honestly I'd rather focus on the parking lot and porte cochere between the beltline and the park/Park Tavern since that actually has the capability/capacity to change. The simplest thing would be to close off the coochie port into an entry plaza (since it is the only more active curb cut into the bike lane/sidewalk) and then have the parking entry dip underground and just move all the parking underground and have a nice plaza covering over it, maybe including a big water feature fountain. The parking since that is on a hill could have direct access into the park by cutting through the hill to the path that goes around the big fields.
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https://beltline.org/blog/atlanta-beltline-design-and-construction-updates-september-2025/


Howy shyt, looks like of the main beltline everything is either under construction or shovel ready except for 1 north piece.

Though the NET + connectors taking 3 and a half years to complete stings.
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Old Posted Oct 15, 2025, 8:43 PM
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I think the Botanical Garden being able to expand and have direct access to the beltline is worth sacrificing a lot that is already adjacent to another storage facility. As much as they suck, it seems like there is enough demand for these facilities or they wouldn't be getting built. Honestly I'd rather focus on the parking lot and porte cochere between the beltline and the park/Park Tavern since that actually has the capability/capacity to change. The simplest thing would be to close off the coochie port into an entry plaza (since it is the only more active curb cut into the bike lane/sidewalk) and then have the parking entry dip underground and just move all the parking underground and have a nice plaza covering over it, maybe including a big water feature fountain. The parking since that is on a hill could have direct access into the park by cutting through the hill to the path that goes around the big fields.
you are absolutely right concerning the sacrifice. The expansion of the botanical garden would not have happened without the deal that was made
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