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CTBUH New York City Chapter Presents: 175 Park Avenue Redevelopment

Wednesday, 08 December 2021

Developers RXR and TF Cornerstone and architect SOM present the redevelopment of the Grand Hyatt site located adjacent to New York's Grand Central Station. This project excels in many ways including complex urban redevelopment, integration with transit, high-rise innovation, and fine grained human scaled urban habitat development.

The webinar explores the complexities of redevelopment in dense urban environments and the integration of landscape and human-scaled spaces at the street level. Integration and coordination of mass transit into the project, resulting in better transportation solutions for occupants, are also discussed.



$20 per ticket for CTBUH Members; $30 for Non-members; Faculty/Students are free

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06:00 pm New York (EDT)

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Adam Greene, RXR Realty
Jon McMillan, TF Cornerstone
Kim Van Holsbeke, Skidmore, Owings & Merrill


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Remember when everyone would have said "$30 for an online event? WTF?" ?

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Remember when everyone would have said "$30 for an online event? WTF?" ?

Brave new world.
I still say that. Even worse are $50 online cooking classes. Why? Just watch them for free on YouTube!

I've even seen a $20 "e-tour" of the Eiffel Tower. Just watch Rick Steve's Europe or type in Eiffel Tower documentary and get the whole experience for free. Such nonsense.
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^ finally an excel spreadsheet we can actually enjoy!
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^^That is an amazing list in terms of heights, but I did not realize that NYC has just one building with 100+ floors, and it is almost the oldest building on the list! Hopefully 80 South Street will happen.

So excited that there may soon be three buildings taller than 500 m!
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^^That is an amazing list in terms of heights, but I did not realize that NYC has just one building with 100+ floors, and it is almost the oldest building on the list! Hopefully 80 South Street will happen.

So excited that there may soon be three buildings taller than 500 m!
Well lots of those building *could* have 100 floors, they just don't want to. They want higher floor plates. For example look at 175, one of the tallest on the list yet it only has floors in the 80s.
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^^That is an amazing list in terms of heights, but I did not realize that NYC has just one building with 100+ floors
And too think that there was at one time 3. There were 2 supertalls that should be high up on that list, but 9/11 happened.
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^ finally an excel spreadsheet we can actually enjoy!
Here's another list.

Over in the compilation thread for NYC. Proposed/ under construction... just to get an idea... and its a big idea.

https://skyscraperpage.com/forum/showpost.php?p=9456725&postcount=1786

Super talls are going to break the barrier once Penn Station district kicks off. And we have parcels thanks to the Midtown East Rezoning ripe for growth.

Still waiting for Phase II HY. I believe one of the parcels there will be a residential super tall.
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Grand Central skyscraper would bring new LIRR connection — and poetry readings






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Modern dance, film screenings and perhaps knitting classes will enliven the outdoor scene at 175 Park Ave., the cloudbusting skyscraper that’s proposed to replace the widely unloved Grand Hyatt Hotel on East 42nd Street.

The fun fests are planned for public-accessible terraces on three sides of the tower. But first, there has to be a tower. Although completion isn’t scheduled until 2030, the fate of the $3 billion-plus project will likely be decided next month.

That’s when developers RXR Realty and TF Cornerstone expect their plans for the mammoth project designed by Skidmore Owings & Merrill to go to the full City Council for approval. The City Planning Commission has already blessed the project, which is to rise to 1,646 feet and 83 stories. It would have 2.1 million square feet of offices, a 453,000-square-foot Hyatt-operated hotel and 10,000 square feet of retail.

The plan is currently being studied by the Council’s zoning committee, which is expected to green-light it before it goes to the full body for a vote. The public review is necessary under East Midtown zoning rules, which allow much larger towers than were previously permitted but which require developers to contribute significant public and transit amenities.
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It wasn’t clear when demolition would start on the Grand Hyatt, a 1970s glass-curtain wall structure with a tacky overhang that Donald Trump inflicted over the East 42nd Street sidewalk.

Nor is it known yet how much the developers will pay for the pedestrian/transit upgrades and what they’ll all be. But one feature will be the conversion of a “short loop” of abandoned subway track beneath Grand Central Terminal into a direct underground connection between new LIRR platforms and subways.

The outdoor terraces are to total 25,000 square feet — more than the 10,000 square feet required by zoning. Situated along the tower’s western, Lexington Avenue and northern sides. They’ll be landscaped by James Corner Field Operations of High Line fame.
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The Public Art Fund and global consulting firm Lord Cultural Resources have been tapped to advise on the terrace programming. Project reps told Realty Check that ideas under consideration include modern dance, experimental theater, poetry readings, comedy, film screening, and music performances. Interactive events will include dance lessons, knitting classes and fashion shows.

To narrow down the terrace happenings, the developers along with Council member Keith Powers will form a program-advisory board to include representatives of the Council, Manhattan borough president and Community Board 5.

TF Cornerstone senior vice-president and director of planning Jon McMillan said the developer “worked closely with Powers to develop inclusive arts and cultural programming.”
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I just hope that the 2030 completion date is just being conservative, if they can demolish the current Grand Hyatt by 2024, I thought I had read it could open by 2028. Otherwise, this tower is going to be among the most iconic of the skyscrapers of 21st century New York City.
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Who cares when it opens... cause thats what they mean by finished. I bet we see a topped out structure dominating the skyline by 2026-27.
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You want modern dance, experimental theater, poetry readings, comedy, film screening, music performances, dance lessons, knitting classes and fashion shows..

You got it.. just as long as you give full approval to this Epic NYC Tower!!
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Who cares when it opens... cause thats what they mean by finished. I bet we see a topped out structure dominating the skyline by 2026-27.
Yep, that's around the time frame I saw when it was first being proposed, at least the topping out externals. It just briefly seemed to me they were pushing the date back a bit, but yeah I could have misunderstood full on opening to topping out. With the interior work plus the transit improvements around it full operation will take a bit longer, but seeing the topped out structure soaring magnificently over the New York skyline will be amazing. Instant icon and statement of New York City of the 21st century.
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if they don't approve the design or height for some reason i would definitely withhold the knitting classes out of spite.
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I just hope that the 2030 completion date is just being conservative, if they can demolish the current Grand Hyatt by 2024, I thought I had read it could open by 2028. Otherwise, this tower is going to be among the most iconic of the skyscrapers of 21st century New York City.
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Who cares when it opens... cause thats what they mean by finished. I bet we see a topped out structure dominating the skyline by 2026-27.

The building itself would take about 4 years to complete (from start). The demolishment will be slower than normal because of the location and method combined. They also have a lot of transit construction and connections to complete before the building can open (those are the rules). That’s why they got the special permit to extend 10 years, they figure they would give themselves more than enough time to get it done. Within this next decade (the 2020’s), we have several large scale projects that are planned to be completed, from the east side to the west side. I’m just ready to watch it all rise.

And, in honor of the poetry readings, I’ll write a poem myself when this is finally approved. The skyscraper gods demand tribute.
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I was always excited to visit new york in a few years to see all the new massive skyscrapers, but now they require a vaccine to do pretty much anything, so pictures from this site is the only way i'll ever be able to see New york
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I was always excited to visit new york in a few years to see all the new massive skyscrapers, but now they require a vaccine to do pretty much anything, so pictures from this site is the only way i'll ever be able to see New york
1) I imagine in a few years time at the very least herd immunity will be reached, so that shouldn't be a problem.
2) Why don't you just get a vaccine?
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