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Old Posted Apr 7, 2008, 2:35 PM
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if its only 15,000 square feet...its only gonna be maybe 7 or 8 stores. I'm so sick of Mobile building these ridiculous little strip malls everywhere that are never worth going to!

I feel you man, If they can invset the money in these little strip malls. Well they can do the same for a retail center such as a town Centre. I`m sick of this old Mobile way of thinking we are slowly moving from that but not fast enough. Whats crazy abut these strip malls is developers are building them because they are doing well here in Mobile. they may not be worth going to you and me LSUboy but hell if they are building them every where and we have enough of them .I guess they are doing well, It`s not the city building these things local and out of town builders are doing this. I don`t see why no one has invested in something more serious yet. If RSA want to continue in invseting in Mobile, a town centre and a theme park would do fine. The town centre may not benifit them but a theme park would.



Bayou the block i`m talking about is the old courthouse block next to imax
. It looks boring with that huge piece of unoccupied land there.

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Yeah I'm with ya on that. The land is the missing link on connecting Mobile's skyline. If you step back and look at downtown . Looks like two skylines to me. The courthouse land would fill in the gap.
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I don't think that is true.....I think it is a false story. and even if it is true, I don't think the Florida Legislature will ever approve it. I'm not even sure if I would want them in the state. after all they would really start to compete with Mobile on a more credable level. The future money going into p-cola could be going into Mobile.....again if that is true....but I don't think it is.
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I doubt that. Pensacola is more like a small town, and Mobile is the bigger brother that everybody wants.
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Note, just talked to the editor and he stated that this was an April Fools joke!
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I think that was an April Fools joke...or the spelling was. Anyway check this out from the PR, which should have made yesterday's lame paper....

Baylinc is booming

Monday, April 07, 2008

By VIRGINIA BRIDGES
Staff Reporter


FAIRHOPE -- At 6:50 a.m., Selma Stalhood sat patiently at the wheel of an empty bus idling next to Hardee's. The windshield wipers swiped the moisture dripping from a fog that hung over the city.

"You never know who is going to show," said Stalhood, driver of one of the two Baylinc buses. "I leave at 7 a.m. whether they are here or not."

On Nov. 6, area public transportation agencies started the Monday-through-Friday Baylinc service aimed at connecting Baldwin County's Eastern Shore to Mobile's downtown business district.

In March, passenger trips jumped to 782, a 25 percent increase over February and nearly double the trips in December. If the trend continues, a third bus could be added to the route by October, said Taylor Rider, director of the Baldwin Rural Area Transportation System.

"I was hoping for this success, but in public transit you never know until you try it," Rider said.

As Stalhood waited in her bus on Wednesday morning, a senior vice president for a Mobile bank, a federal prosecutor, and a physical scientist for the U.S. Army Corps of Engineer began to file in.

"You made it, you made it," Stalhood said as regular rider Michelle Cox, a legal assistant, walked up.

Stalhood closed the door, and eased toward U.S. 98.

A white car pulled up, signaling with a honk. Attorney Richard Maples stepped out of the passenger seat.

"He is lucky," Stalhood said. "It is already 7:01."

On the ride, the banking executive reviewed paperwork. The scientist listened to National Public Radio on headphones. Cox held a tall glass of tea and read a romance novel titled "The Lair of the Lion."

Assistant U.S. Attorney Charles Baer and Maples talked shop and politics, raising their voices as the bus bounced, moaned, and rattled down the highway.

In total, 14 people -- from Magnolia Springs to Bay Minette -- rode Stalhood's bus. Earlier, 11 had ridden the bus that left Hardee's at 6 a.m.

Baylinc riders range from the "homeless to judges," Stalhood said.

Most are people who live on the Eastern Shore and work downtown, but a few catch a Mobile WAVE bus to other areas. Occasionally, people from Mobile take the bus to Baldwin, she said. At Christmas time, panhandlers even rode over to ask for money from drivers near the Eastern Shore Centre, Stalhood said.

"They'd get back on with a wad of money, food and beer in their backpacks," she said.

The advantages of riding the bus include saving money on gas and letting someone else deal with the traffic. Larry Parson, the scientist, said corps employees are reimbursed the money they spend on fares under a program that promotes mass transit.

The disadvantages include walking blocks to the office in bad weather, and not having the car to get lunch or scoot to the post office.

As Stalhood worked the bus through downtown Mobile to Bienville Square, she stopped, when possible, to let passengers off closer to their workplaces.

"In the morning, we got them spoiled," Stalhood said.

On Wednesday morning, all but two of the 14 passengers were heading downtown. Maverick Landry needed to reach ITT Tech on Cottage Hill Road, where he studies computer engineering.

"This is my first day" on the bus, said Landry, 17, who left school in the 10th grade but earned his GED.

Bay Minette roofer John Nicholas caught the bus, hoping to get to a job near Tillman's Corner.

Nicholas said his wife found out about the bus service Tuesday after his truck broke down. "She said, 'I've got a ride for you to work,'" Nicholas said.

When the bus reached Bienville Square about 7:45 a.m., Stalhood sent Nicholas and Landry to Debra Sheperd, a Wave transit supervisor, who sat in a white van near the stop.

Sheperd told the two men to take a 7:50 a.m. bus that stops at a close corner to the WAVE system hub -- The GM&O Building beside Water Street.

Landry said he made it to ITT tech at 8:30 a.m.

"It was easy," he said later.

BAYLINC

Passenger trips have been increasing steadily since the Baylinc service started in November. Passenger trips are defined as a rider taking the bus from one stop to another. Fares range from $1.50 to $3 one-way, depending on departure and destination. Coupons are available that allow riders to pay $10 for tickets worth $12 in fares.

Month -- Number of passenger trips

December -- 394

January -- 475

February -- 628

March -- 782

Source: Baldwin Area Rural Transportation
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haha knew it. It sounded so fake. anyways......it would have been interesting to have the conversation.

Hey that is great news about the baylink.....I really didn't think it was going to work. Its neat to see people actually using it then getting on the wave transit system.
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Note, just talked to the editor and he stated that this was an April Fools joke!
it also says (April Fools' Day 2008) at the top of the article


nothing will be happening on the old courthouse site until after the new courthouse is completed. that land will be used as a staging point while the new building is under construction.
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Old Posted Apr 7, 2008, 4:14 PM
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yeah saw that.
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Re: an earlier comment wished for development along the Dauphin Island Parkway.

A question: is DI underdeveloped because no developers are attracted to it, or is it because the community has decided that, if effect, "this is who we want to be"?

My family and I made a spring break visit to DI, and absolutely loved it! Compared to the (IMHO) nightmare that Gulf Shores and Orange Beach have become, DI is literally a breath of fresh air.

My son was in Panama City for part of Spring Break, then decided to come over and join us at DI. I advised that he get on I-10 to Mobile. Sez he: "Nah, dad, I'm gonna cruise along the coast." He finally shows up, in a foul mood, because his "cruise along the coast" turned into a 7 hour cluster**** tour of shopping malls and stoplights.
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BTW: thanks to commenter "251" for the night photos of the Tower and the Riverview. Maybe someday I'll actually get to see, in person, the results of all our hard work!
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The baylinc article and the wave video from the other day got me thinking. If Mobile gets light rail or the rapid bus thing, where would the lines run and where would the hubs be? I was trying to think of a good setup but was struggling. To me, it seems like there are not enough people coming from one place and going to another to make it work. I don't see a large enough population trying to move in mass from one area to another quickly. Im not sure our downtown has the density needed to support this kind of thing Think about how big Charlotte's downtown is and they just got enough going to demand light rail. I mean think about a west mobile to downtown line. Lets say it has stops at university, the mall, the loop, etc. Well if you work off cottage hill, in spring hill, or anywhere else a block north/south of airport or a block east/west of those stops, you are probably going to be better off driving. I think SpringHill would be a good place for a stop too because of their big Village plan and alot of people work downtown(if they work). I guess Mobile would really need to upgrade its busses, create several stops for the light rail and then provide good bus service to these in the in between areas. I also think if Mobile foots the bill for this, then the lines should not extend to the eastern shore, saraland, or west mobile county just so people can continue to sprawl. I think this is one of those things the city can use as a bargaining chip in future annexation talks as a benefit to joining the city. Maybe this is one of those things that if you build now, it will spur future growth along the line. Anyone else have any ideas where lines/hubs should be?
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Re: an earlier comment wished for development along the Dauphin Island Parkway.

A question: is DI underdeveloped because no developers are attracted to it, or is it because the community has decided that, if effect, "this is who we want to be"?

My family and I made a spring break visit to DI, and absolutely loved it! Compared to the (IMHO) nightmare that Gulf Shores and Orange Beach have become, DI is literally a breath of fresh air.

My son was in Panama City for part of Spring Break, then decided to come over and join us at DI. I advised that he get on I-10 to Mobile. Sez he: "Nah, dad, I'm gonna cruise along the coast." He finally shows up, in a foul mood, because his "cruise along the coast" turned into a 7 hour cluster**** tour of shopping malls and stoplights.

People in Dauphin Island want it to be that away. They also have more money(old money) than Gulf Shore residents so they have more of a say so of what goes on that island.


If P-cola was added to the state that would have givin Alabama another beach and the Mobile CSA would have been over 900,000 easy with just that 1 county (Escambia) ! I don`t think it would have been competion between the two more of the two working together.
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Re: an earlier comment wished for development along the Dauphin Island Parkway.

A question: is DI underdeveloped because no developers are attracted to it, or is it because the community has decided that, if effect, "this is who we want to be"?

My family and I made a spring break visit to DI, and absolutely loved it! Compared to the (IMHO) nightmare that Gulf Shores and Orange Beach have become, DI is literally a breath of fresh air.

My son was in Panama City for part of Spring Break, then decided to come over and join us at DI. I advised that he get on I-10 to Mobile. Sez he: "Nah, dad, I'm gonna cruise along the coast." He finally shows up, in a foul mood, because his "cruise along the coast" turned into a 7 hour cluster**** tour of shopping malls and stoplights.
It also is not exactly a stable place to develop. The island is eroding and moving due to currents coming out of Mobile Bay. The east end is fairly stable(which is why it is more developed-DI Sea Lab, Condos, bridge, etc), but the west end is dissapearing at a pretty rapid rate. Each hurricane completely reshapes the island (Katrina cut off a pirtion of the west end that is now sepearted by a shallow body of water.
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The baylinc article and the wave video from the other day got me thinking. If Mobile gets light rail or the rapid bus thing, where would the lines run and where would the hubs be? I was trying to think of a good setup but was struggling. To me, it seems like there are not enough people coming from one place and going to another to make it work. I mean think about a west mobile to downtown line. Lets say it has stops at university, the mall, the loop, etc. Well if you work off cottage hill, in spring hill, or anywhere else a block north/south of airport or a block east/west of those stops, you are probably going to be better off driving. I think SpringHill would be a good place for a stop too because of their big Village plan and alot of people work downtown(if they work). I guess Mobile would really need to upgrade its busses and create several stops for the light rail and then provide good bus service to these in between areas. I also think if Mobile foots the bill for this, then the lines should not extend to the eastern "shore, saraland, or west mobile county just so people can continue to sprawl. I think this is one of those things the city can use as a bargaining chip in future annexation talks as a benefit to joining the city. Anyone else have any ideas where lines/hubs should be?

I agree with you, I have heard talk about Mobile annexing Theodore and if they annex Theodore then Tillmans Corner would automaticaly become part of the city thats about another 30-35,000 residents. The reason why the "WAVE" isn`t being used a lot is for one there is a bus in route every 30 or 40 min. I have been to some cities that thave one every 15 min who wants to wait almost an hour to get home. Atleast it is not as bad as the Hunstville Shuttle or Transit what ever it`s called. The Hunstville Shuttle runs every 45 min and it closes at 6:00 p.m , and it does not run on weekends. I think that Mobile is the only metro in the state that does have mass transit that goes to another county and I have heard rumors of them extending it to some Mississippi counties that border Mobile County as well
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someone in a red truck looks to be following you, Must be one of those B-Ham posters checking up on us
hahhaha. yeah
Sometimes it seems as if they'd rather not have the tankers built at all if it would keep Mobile from "stealing" the glory.
but that is my truck.

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hahhaha. yeah
Sometimes it seems as if they'd rather not have the tankers built at all if it would keep Mobile from "stealing" the glory.
but that is my truck.

I realy hope that is not the case becasue if so that is crazy man,I hope not we are getting the tanker but to have others from the state hoping we don`t is crazy. The tanker will be benificial to the state as a whole not just the Port -City.
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