Winnipeg | Portage and Main

[GlassCity]

Originally Posted by Geebrr

I work near Portage and Main and did not even really realize these access points existed until this issue came up. I always go through RBC, Richardson, or the square to get across.

I know zero people who use the access points

I'm the opposite. I've only ever used the access points, and didn't realize you could use the office buildings until this question came up. Aside from 360 Main that is.

Unless you're familiar with those buildings, the instinct would be to use the subway-entrance things, and that's what the signs point to as well.

[Geebrr]

Originally Posted by GlassCity

I'm the opposite. I've only ever used the access points, and didn't realize you could use the office buildings until this question came up. Aside from 360 Main that is.

Unless you're familiar with those buildings, the instinct would be to use the subway-entrance things, and that's what the signs point to as well.

Never even noticed/read the signs.

In a nutshell: the current format does not make sense for anyone.

[DowntownBooster]

Originally Posted by Wpg_Guy

Access would remain part of the cost would go towards redesigning the access points making them more visible accessible and safe.

That's good to know. Thanks for clarifying Wpg_Guy.

[rkspec]

https://globalnews.ca/news/4412071/f...tage-and-main/


Finally, Bellamy's social media posts make it to the media.

[Jets4Life]

Originally Posted by rkspec

https://globalnews.ca/news/4412071/f...tage-and-main/


Finally, Bellamy's social media posts make it to the media.

We should send our results of this poll to Global. I bet we get mentioned in the next story on Portage and Main.

[J.OT13]

We came back from Winnipeg yesterday. Amazing city!

We at at the Exchange a couple times and we were actually quite impressed accessibility wise (and of course for the spectacular preservation of the district). We had breakfast in a basement restaurant (Clementine's) and noticed they had an elevator at the back for accessibility. We also went to a place called Kevin's and it looked like the floor had been lowered to ground level, with the basement windows now at feet level.

Portage and Main though was pretty ridiculous. I went there with a pretty solid familiarity of the situation and layout yet still got a confused at the circus level, trying to figure out where to go in order to access the Walkway System (as opposed to going up to street level). My in-laws had no idea the intersection was closed to pedestrians and would of had a lot of trouble if I had not been there.

Quick shout-out to the MTS Centre and True North Square. Pictures don't do them justice.

[pspeid]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

We came back from Winnipeg yesterday. Amazing city!

We at at the Exchange a couple times and we were actually quite impressed accessibility wise (and of course for the spectacular preservation of the district). We had breakfast in a basement restaurant (Clementine's) and noticed they had an elevator at the back for accessibility. We also went to a place called Kevin's and it looked like the floor had been lowered to ground level, with the basement windows now at feet level.

Portage and Main though was pretty ridiculous. I went there with a pretty solid familiarity of the situation and layout yet still got a confused at the circus level, trying to figure out where to go in order to access the Walkway System (as opposed to going up to street level). My in-laws had no idea the intersection was closed to pedestrians and would of had a lot of trouble if I had not been there.

Quick shout-out to the MTS Centre and True North Square. Pictures don't do them justice.

Thanks for the comment-glad you enjoyed visiting!

I seriously think this comment needs to be forwarded to city council, especially those opposed to opening "P & M". The intersection doesn't stand in isolation, it's a part (and an important part) of the entire downtown redevelopment. People DO notice it, and if a visitor takes the time to mention how cumbersome the current configuration is, it may make more of an impact on reluctant councillors than comments from locals.

[Geebrr]

Originally Posted by J.OT13

We came back from Winnipeg yesterday. Amazing city!

We at at the Exchange a couple times and we were actually quite impressed accessibility wise (and of course for the spectacular preservation of the district). We had breakfast in a basement restaurant (Clementine's) and noticed they had an elevator at the back for accessibility. We also went to a place called Kevin's and it looked like the floor had been lowered to ground level, with the basement windows now at feet level.

Portage and Main though was pretty ridiculous. I went there with a pretty solid familiarity of the situation and layout yet still got a confused at the circus level, trying to figure out where to go in order to access the Walkway System (as opposed to going up to street level). My in-laws had no idea the intersection was closed to pedestrians and would of had a lot of trouble if I had not been there.

Quick shout-out to the MTS Centre and True North Square. Pictures don't do them justice.

Thanks for sharing!

[esquire]

^ Glad you had a nice time! Summer long weekends tend not to be the liveliest time in the city, but hopefully there was enough going on to make for a pleasant trip.

[Aroundtheworld]

As a former Winnipegger who has a friend who worked on the report, I've been following this issue closely. I normally view plebiscites like this as an abdication of leadership and I think Bowman is coward for doing so.

How are the polls looking on this? Any chance the Yes side might actually win?

[cheswick]

Originally Posted by Aroundtheworld

As a former Winnipegger who has a friend who worked on the report, I've been following this issue closely. I normally view plebiscites like this as an abdication of leadership and I think Bowman is coward for doing so.

How are the polls looking on this? Any chance the Yes side might actually win?

In Bowman’s defence the motion was going to pass with or without his vote. Not much he could have done at that stage.

Last poll I’ve heard was from summer 2016 probe online research poll. 53% closed 42% open. Open was 60% amongst 18-34

[The Unknown Poster]

Originally Posted by cheswick

In Bowman’s defence the motion was going to pass with or without his vote. Not much he could have done at that stage.

Last poll I’ve heard was from summer 2016 probe online research poll. 53% closed 42% open. Open was 60% amongst 18-34

Bowman used it to cut the legs out from under his opponent. Had he maintained his strong support for opening P&M, it still would have ended up on the ballot but it would have connected his campaign to that issue and created the golden issue his opponent needed to say "vote no to P&M and to Bowman".

Now, you can vote no without voting for the non-incumbent. Pretty wise on his part. If Council didnt like Bowman, they should have killed the P&M issue and let the Mayoral race be the defacto vote on P&M

Call me crazy but I have a feeling "Yes" has a chance...(and I thought it was overwhelming "no" initially).

[Ando]

Originally Posted by Aroundtheworld

As a former Winnipegger who has a friend who worked on the report, I've been following this issue closely. I normally view plebiscites like this as an abdication of leadership and I think Bowman is coward for doing so.

How are the polls looking on this? Any chance the Yes side might actually win?

You're right on both counts - an abdication of leadership and him being a coward.

[esquire]

^ Too early for municipal election polling by the media.

[Ando]

Unfortunately, people don't vote in favour of change, that has been proven again and again. The vast majority of voters who don't care about the downtown area, and in fact never go there, are likely to be in opposition. That's why polls have shown the NO side in the majority. Governing by referendum is a terrible way of governing. I'm not optimistic but obviously hope for a miracle.

[windypeg]

Originally Posted by Ando

Unfortunately, people don't vote in favour of change, that has been proven again and again. The vast majority of voters who don't care about the downtown area, and in fact never go there, are likely to be in opposition. That's why polls have shown the NO side in the majority. Governing by referendum is a terrible way of governing. I'm not optimistic but obviously hope for a miracle.

"I never go downtown but that won't stop me from opposing whatever you want to do with the downtown!!" - Winnipeggers

[Jets4Life]

Originally Posted by windypeg

"I never go downtown but that won't stop me from opposing whatever you want to do with the downtown!!" - Winnipeggers

Reminds me of the Blake Wheeler signing. From 1979-2017:

"The Jets are too cheap to ever compete for the Stanley Cup. We will never sign our best players!"

From 2017-present:

"Are the Jets nuts? Now that we have signed old man Wheeler, we will have no cap space for our young players! Who cares if he was a Hart Trophy nominee? We should have traded him for draft picks!"

[buzzg]

Frankly anyone who says that is a moron. This is an incredible contract.

Wheeler has just reached his prime. He had more points last year than Tavares ever has.

Most points in last 3 NHL seasons:
Patrick Kane - 271
Sidney Crosby - 263
Connor McDavid - 256
Nikita Kucherov - 251
Blake Wheeler - 243

Tavares is signed for $11m/yr til he’s 37; wheeler signed for $8.25m/yr til 36. Tavares took a hometown “discount” to play in Toronto, and was fetching $13m from NYI and others.

Compared to other players of his caliber or considered to be better in the league, this is n absolute steal. He said he knew he could have got much more somewhere else, but wanted to stay here – and this is usually when players take sunset contracts.

With Enstrom gone and Trouba almost guaranteed to be gone by the deadline, we have enough room, especially as the salary cap increases every year.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by buzzg

Most points in last 3 NHL seasons:
Patrick Kane - 271
Sidney Crosby - 263
Connor McDavid - 256
Nikita Kucherov - 251
Blake Wheeler - 243

That is an amazing stat.

[buzzg]

I apologize didn’t even realize this wasn’t a P&M thread lol