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Old Posted Feb 25, 2015, 3:44 PM
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My guess is that Rahm is going to strike a very conciliatory, liberal, pro-union tone
He's already burned the union bridge. I dont see how hes ever getting those votes.
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He's already burned the union bridge. I dont see how hes ever getting those votes.
Uh, you're joking, right??

http://chicago.suntimes.com/chicago-...5-labor-unions
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Right, it's the public employee unions that don't like Rahm. CTU and Karen Lewis types.
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Garcia doesn't want Obama library on South Side park land
http://chicago.suntimes.com/news/7/7...side-park-land

I'm surprised to see Garcia stick to his guns about this issue, especially given his need to increase support among African-American voters.
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^^Talk about Chicago-machine-style pandering. "I'm a parks guy. I feel that parks are sacred." Interesting that this is all of a sudden a big issue for him..

F*ck this guy.
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Old Posted Feb 27, 2015, 4:53 PM
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Hell, who needs museums anyway? Let our children, tourists, educators, private citizens from all walks of life remain ignorant about various aspects of the arts and sciences; who needs that anyway? All we need to learn can be gained from the internet or tv. Murica!!

It's not like museums in the park have ever done anything for anyone. Not the Field, or the Shedd, or the MSI. Or the Art Institute. Or DuSable. Or the National Museum of Mexican American art. Or the Chicago History Museum. Or the Notebaert Nature Museum.

As a Chicagoan, I'm utterly embarrassed by the likes of Chuy Garcia.
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^ This is just about him trying to define himself. You define yourself by drawing solid lines between yourself and your opponent. Look for him to draw similar lines in regards to other Emanuel projects (Lucas Museum, BRT, McCormick Place hotel/stadium, etc etc)
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Old Posted Feb 27, 2015, 5:15 PM
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Defining yourself is one thing, but doing it solely by being the perceived polar opposite of your opponent?? Especially for all of the elements you just listed, isn't that a net loss for the City?? Being anti-progress, anti-development is the way to go?? Because laissez-faire attitudes have helped cities SO MUCH in the past. Just like in the late 60s in Detroit. Or even the same time period in Chicago. Or NYC in the 70s. Or Paris in the 80s.

I don't buy this phoney, Chuy-your-ear-off rhetoric - Rahm is no angel by any means, but I'd rather have an asshole be Mayor, than someone who can't even keep his own house/offspring in order. And I don't want to hear anything about Rahm not doing enough to prevent gang-violence or shootings/murders in the City, because you wanna know what? Barbarism begins at home, so good luck with that, Chuy.
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Hell, who needs museums anyway? Let our children, tourists, educators, private citizens from all walks of life remain ignorant about various aspects of the arts and sciences; who needs that anyway? All we need to learn can be gained from the internet or tv. Murica!!

It's not like museums in the park have ever done anything for anyone. Not the Field, or the Shedd, or the MSI. Or the Art Institute. Or DuSable. Or the National Museum of Mexican American art. Or the Chicago History Museum. Or the Notebaert Nature Museum.

As a Chicagoan, I'm utterly embarrassed by the likes of Chuy Garcia.
But museums are for rich people! Rahm is bringing too many corporations and rich people to Chicago, what we really need is more people on the dole and more public sector unions. That will clearly address the massive pension time bomb!

Sarcasm aside, I too am embarrassed by the likes of Chuy. A vote for him is a vote for a return to the Daley years of stuffing our fingers in our ears and going "naa naa naa naa can't hear you" whenever we have to confront a problem. Sickening. I read the other day that Chicago could triple the property tax rate and still not be fully funding it's pensions... Chuy won't even broach that topic. Why? Because he's Karen Lewis' b!$%h.

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And I don't want to hear anything about Rahm not doing enough to prevent gang-violence or shootings/murders in the City, because you wanna know what? Barbarism begins at home, so good luck with that, Chuy.
Excellent point. I would love to see Rahm run Chuy through with this the first time gangs and crime comes up in the next debate. "Gangs Chuy? Let's talk about gangs... Starting with your shithead son." Honestly though, clearly he learned to behave that way somewhere. Either he learned to act like that from his parents ( I hope to God that's not the case, I will give Chuy the benefit of the doubt on that point) or he didn't learn it from his parents and learned it because his parents were too absentee or incompetent to prevent it. Either way, if you can't raise a child to not be a shithead gang banger then you certainly have no business running a city of 2.7 million with a rampant gang problem.
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PS 70% of Southsiders support putting the library in the park and 91% support it if not giving up parkland could jepordize Chicago's chances of securing the library. Chuy just handed Rahm a gift. Ten bucks says Rahm slams him for this over the coming weeks. Nothing will drive the African American community back into Rahms arms faster than threatening the Obama library:

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/artic...oreUserAgent=1
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PS 70% of Southsiders support putting the library in the park and 91% support it if not giving up parkland could jepordize Chicago's chances of securing the library. Chuy just handed Rahm a gift. Ten bucks says Rahm slams him for this over the coming weeks. Nothing will drive the African American community back into Rahms arms faster than threatening the Obama library:

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/artic...oreUserAgent=1
This was EXACTLY my thought when I first read about Garcia's position this morning! That's why, to add to my earlier response to TUP, If Garcia's entire platform is to be contrarian, then he's got a few surprises coming his way. He's def not day for prime time.
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But museums are for rich people! Rahm is bringing too many corporations and rich people to Chicago, what we really need is more people on the dole and more public sector unions. That will clearly address the massive pension time bomb!

Sarcasm aside, I too am embarrassed by the likes of Chuy. A vote for him is a vote for a return to the Daley years of stuffing our fingers in our ears and going "naa naa naa naa can't hear you" whenever we have to confront a problem. Sickening. I read the other day that Chicago could triple the property tax rate and still not be fully funding it's pensions... Chuy won't even broach that topic. Why? Because he's Karen Lewis' b!$%h.



Excellent point. I would love to see Rahm run Chuy through with this the first time gangs and crime comes up in the next debate. "Gangs Chuy? Let's talk about gangs... Starting with your shithead son." Honestly though, clearly he learned to behave that way somewhere. Either he learned to act like that from his parents ( I hope to God that's not the case, I will give Chuy the benefit of the doubt on that point) or he didn't learn it from his parents and learned it because his parents were too absentee or incompetent to prevent it. Either way, if you can't raise a child to not be a shithead gang banger then you certainly have no business running a city of 2.7 million with a rampant gang problem.
I agree with a lot of this.

As an aside, I'm curious to know what kind of relationship Garcia had with Daley, while Da Mayor was in office..
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I agree with a lot of this.

As an aside, I'm curious to know what kind of relationship Garcia had with Daley, while Da Mayor was in office..
Their political pedigrees really couldn't possibly be more different.

Rahm's political pedigree is much closer to that of Daley's. Rahm worked as a fundraiser on Daley's 1989 campaign and in 2002 when he ran successfully for Congress he had Daley's backing and machine support. When Rahm first publicly mentioned an inkling to run for Mayor on the Charlie Rose show in 2010 he said "I hope Mayor Daley runs again but if he doesn't...". Granted he isn't as "machine" as many politicians you could name that spent all of most of their careers in Chicago but by any reasonable standard Rahm is closer to that then what Chuy Garcia is. Sure Rahm criticizes "the politics of the past" referring to the negative perceptions of the latter Daley years but he tip tows around it because he knows Daley is one of his political godfathers (along with Bill Clinton and Barack Obama).

Chuy Garcia became Alderman during the Mayorality of Harold Washington who is kind of the standard bearer of what is called a "reform politician" in the modern Chicago sense of the word. Chuy was elected Alderman and he broke the block of 29 machine Alderman so Washington could have a bloc of reform Alderman (including Chuy) to actually get some of his legislative accomplishments through. Washington soon thereafter died and a couple years later Richard M. Daley was elected Mayor. Chuy was elected to the Illinois State Senate a few years later only to be later be defeated in 1998 by Daley forces via the HDO (Hispanic Democratic Organization) an hispanic arm of the machine who's aim it was to defeat reform Hispanics like Chuy. Only recently in 2010 did Chuy return to elected office on the Cook County Board. Whatever relationship Daley and Chuy did have it was pretty minimal and probably quite adversarial. Daley did appoint Chuy's protege Ricardo Munoz 22nd Ward Alderman in 1993 (the office he still holds) when Chuy became state senator but I imagine that was more about Daley appeasing that constituency for his own political calculus than doing Chuy a favor.

Say what you want about Rahm, Chuy or Daley whether it be positive, negative or indifferent but get the political history right. The very idea that anyone is even wondering if Chuy is more of a Daley like politician (in style or substance) than Rahm is simply ludacris.
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Either way, if you can't raise a child to not be a shithead gang banger then you certainly have no business running a city of 2.7 million with a rampant gang problem.
the sins of a family member are often an incredibly weak line of political attack, but in this specific situation, it's actually relevant for the reasons you mentioned.

"how the hell is chuy garcia gonna keep kids out of gangs when he couldn't even keep his own freaking flesh and blood son from succumbing to that toxic bullshit world?"

still, i don't expect rahm to touch chuy's douche bag gangbanger son, at least not in any kind of direct fashion.
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still, i don't expect rahm to touch chuy's douche bag gangbanger son, at least not in any kind of direct fashion.
Indirection works just as well. That's why Rahm has all these loosely-affiliated PACs. They can slam Chuy's son and Rahm can keep himself out of the mud.
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If Obama really wants to help out Emmanuel, he should delay the decision on the library until after the run-off election and then strongly hint that its the Washington Park location or Columbia University.
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Surprise, surprise - Chicagomachinepandering at it's worst:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...302-story.html
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I couldn't copy this

Heres the link though.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2...rcia/24263201/


Basically Senator Mark Kirk says Chicago will go bankrupt if Rahm loses.
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Surprise, surprise - Chicagomachinepandering at it's worst:

http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/l...302-story.html
Lol, what a pushover. Actually I shouldn't be laughing because if this chump gets elected we can probably expect him to bend over every time any special interest group gets offended. That's a great way to govern a diverse city...

Honestly though, does this guy have a single position? The only ones I have seen involve him, the Karma Sutra, and Karen Lewis. His anti Obama Library stance was the first real stand of his and he's already backtracked like a little wimp on it...

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I couldn't copy this

Heres the link though.

http://www.usatoday.com/story/news/2...rcia/24263201/


Basically Senator Mark Kirk says Chicago will go bankrupt if Rahm loses.
In other words Mark Kirk states the obvious. Chuy is already demonstrating he has no spine whatsoever, how is he going to fix a problem that involves kicking so many special interests in the balls (including property owners who WILL get a tax increase no matter what)?
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After a high-stakes courtship by both candidates aimed at luring the pivotal black vote, millionaire businessman Willie Wilson has decided to endorse Jesus “Chuy” Garcia over Mayor Rahm Emanuel in the April 7 runoff.

Wilson said he made the decision, based on the feedback he got from literally hundreds, if not thousands of his supporters through emails, phone calls and his extensive network of black churches.

He’s also held “three-to-five” private meetings with both Emanuel and Garcia to press his demands for both candidates to reopen at least some of the record 50 schools that Emanuel closed, eliminate red-light cameras and establish “fairness” in the awarding of city jobs and contracts.

Wilson has scheduled a news conference to announce his decision. But, on Wednesday, he informed both campaigns of his decision to go with Garcia, then explained the reasons why in an interview with the Chicago Sun-Times.

“Those red-light cameras on the backs of the poor. Eliminating 50 of them was not enough. They want `em all gone. Not enough fairness in terms of contracts and jobs. And the school situation is a dagger. The school situation is a major, major, major, major,” Wilson said.

“Kids walking through gang territory 2 and 3 miles to get to new schools. Eighty-eight percent of them were in the African-American community. They felt that was wrong. They felt he totally ignored the community when they’re the ones who put him in office.”
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