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Phillip Rimshack · #**141** Posted **Jan 8, 2010, 5:51 PM**

This may be neither here nor there, but am I the only person who sees the Rothko design, with its gaping hole and splayed vertical stripes, as having some sort of connection to the broken Trade Center on the other coast?

I like the design on its own - very courageous - but can't really separate it from a larger narrative, and find it a little bit somber and depressing (mixed with January colors/rain).

WTC or no, there are undeniable elements of destruction and imprisonment there that don't seem to play very well with a "living space".

mcbaby · #**142** Posted **Jan 8, 2010, 9:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by tworivers

Another view of the proposed Rothko apts. Got this off Vegi.tecture.

I agree. Looks like a plane hit it. The fact that it reminded someone of 9/11 is even more depressing.

urbanlife · #**143** Posted **Jan 9, 2010, 12:48 AM**

I still dont see this resemblance to this building looking like a plane hit it or the twin towers...so apparently no building can ever have vertical lines anymore??

Maybe if this building was at least 60 floors and a metallic gray, then I might understand this relationship between the two different buildings.

rsbear · #**144** Posted **Jan 9, 2010, 1:59 AM**

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Originally Posted by mcbaby

I agree. Looks like a plane hit it. The fact that it reminded someone of 9/11 is even more depressing.

+1

crow · #**145** Posted **Jan 9, 2010, 5:15 AM**

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Originally Posted by urbanlife

I still dont see this resemblance to this building looking like a plane hit it or the twin towers...so apparently no building can ever have vertical lines anymore??

Maybe if this building was at least 60 floors and a metallic gray, then I might understand this relationship between the two different buildings.

maybe it is less about the vertical lines, but how they are morphed out of vertical - in response to what? The garden, the metaphor of breaking the norm with a garden? Seems a little obtuse, and a suffering for the sake of the building image.

bvpcvm · #**146** Posted **Jan 9, 2010, 5:29 AM**

I see the resemblance, but I'd be pretty surprised if it was intentional; it seems like it would be too blatantly political.

urbanlife · #**147** Posted **Jan 9, 2010, 7:46 AM**

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Originally Posted by crow

maybe it is less about the vertical lines, but how they are morphed out of vertical - in response to what? The garden, the metaphor of breaking the norm with a garden? Seems a little obtuse, and a suffering for the sake of the building image.

It just looks like a cube with a floating cube above it...personally I dont buy into what they are trying to make the garden out to be, but then again it is no different than a building that puts a garden on top of a building's base with the tower rising next to it....just in this case, the base is the same size as the rest of the tower.

eeldip · #**148** Posted **Jan 11, 2010, 3:58 PM**

there is something about the design that smacks of a deconstructionist Yamasaki. but at some point, a 9/11 reference should not be off limits. if anything you could see this as a positive, resurrection themed reference.

Phillip Rimshack · #**149** Posted **Jan 11, 2010, 7:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by eeldip

there is something about the design that smacks of a deconstructionist Yamasaki. but at some point, a 9/11 reference should not be off limits. if anything you could see this as a positive, resurrection themed reference.

A resurrection theme makes any intentional reference a more powerful/positive one. I can see that. But who knows?

pylon · #**150** Posted **Jan 11, 2010, 7:56 PM**

I hope no one interprets it as an unstable or broken home...

urbanlife · #**151** Posted **Jan 11, 2010, 8:02 PM**

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Originally Posted by eeldip

there is something about the design that smacks of a deconstructionist Yamasaki. but at some point, a 9/11 reference should not be off limits. if anything you could see this as a positive, resurrection themed reference.

Maybe if it was taller, all I see is the upper portion looking like a floating cube with vertical lines connecting it together....I know why people are connecting it to the twin towers, but I think it is a stretch to be doing so with this, beyond the vertical lines, it doesnt look like it would even be out of the same material or that the vertical lines are even designed the same.

crow · #**152** Posted **Jan 11, 2010, 8:43 PM**

This design is really not worth all the air time to argue whether it looks like the WTC towers post 9/11 or not - it is just a dull design cloaked with a layer fizzle that really does not have much architectural significance to what would otherwise be a late 70's commercial building with a bite out of the middle of it.

PacificNW · #**153** Posted **Jan 11, 2010, 9:38 PM**

I thought this was an open discussion forum.. I don't understand the dismissive type remarks being made at times.....such as "not worth all the air time...yada, yada, yada." Who made some people on here the "Forum Police" stating which posts are worth discussing and those which are not? The merits of a "post" will live, or die, based on the interest (or lack of) of the "forum" as a whole, imo.

Okstate · #**154** Posted **Jan 11, 2010, 10:11 PM**

^ +1

rsbear · #**155** Posted **Jan 12, 2010, 12:19 AM**

+1

zilfondel · #**156** Posted **Jan 12, 2010, 5:42 AM**

I'm honestly more interested in how the project connects to the ground and creates those public spaces and interface.

I think the tower portion is a little evocative, but I'm not seeing this WTC 9/11 reference. I think this project is on such a different scale, and its a totally different type of project, that it really doesn't have anything to do with it.

crow · #**157** Posted **Jan 15, 2010, 4:37 AM**

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Originally Posted by PacificNW

I thought this was an open discussion forum.. I don't understand the dismissive type remarks being made at times.....such as "not worth all the air time...yada, yada, yada." Who made some people on here the "Forum Police" stating which posts are worth discussing and those which are not? The merits of a "post" will live, or die, based on the interest (or lack of) of the "forum" as a whole, imo.

yeah - sorry, but getting a little bored of all the WTC analogies. Unless the person who designed this project wants to enlighten us, then at least we would be able to have a little more meaningful dialog about why it looks the way it looks - or maybe the design is just a fetish.

Okstate · #**158** Posted **Oct 31, 2010, 4:11 PM**

I ran across this site today. Any chance someone out there would be interested in adding Portland's projects to the map so we could see progress on a cartographic representation?

http://www.urbika.com/cities?continent=4&page=2&

urbanlife · #**159** Posted **Nov 4, 2010, 3:36 AM**

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New downtown Portland office towers pitched to meet rising demand

Portland's downtown real estate scene is about to get a lot more interesting, as multiple developers are suddenly pushing new projects to deal with a shortage -- yes, a shortage -- of large blocks of downtown office space.

New office demand

Figured this was worth posting, especially if it comes true cause I know plenty of us would love to see some new buildings rising in downtown.

Sioux612 · #**160** Posted **Nov 4, 2010, 3:52 AM**

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Originally Posted by urbanlife

New office demand

Figured this was worth posting, especially if it comes true cause I know plenty of us would love to see some new buildings rising in downtown.

Hmm, does this mean One Waterfront Place and The Weave will get the green light?