The Exchange | 115.7m | 31fl, 13fl | 400,000sqft. | Completed - Page 8

trofirhen · #**141** Posted **Oct 31, 2012, 8:55 AM**

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Originally Posted by Metro-One

Well, my info is probably not as good as others on here, but the Credit Suisse staff involved with the project directly told me they wanted a height increase. If those dreams have already been dashed or not, I don't know, that was about 6 months ago.

They are aware of this forum as well btw

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Originally Posted by officedweller

A height increase would be nice. The problem is the view cone.
Maybe it'll be redesigned without the characteristic peaked roof?

I'd love to see even 5 or 6 floors added on to it (provided it doesn't totally compromise the building design)

LeftCoaster · #**142** Posted **Oct 31, 2012, 1:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by cornholio

So again imo there is NO advantage of being located within walking distance of a "large" number of other companies, ZERO advantage. Thats why I am surprised office buildings are still being built downtown, I would have thought things would have changed by now but I suppose we need another decade for a good turn over of the decision makers within these companies.

Strange then that companies continue to pay astronomical rents to concentrate in downtowns across the world, and that developing nations with no ties to the concept of traditional business districts are following the same trend.

Maybe, just maybe, they know something you don't?

I know the value I gain from being close to other firms is far higher than the savings of locating at a corporate campus in the suburbs, and I'm sure the same is true for many other professions.

WarrenC12 · #**143** Posted **Oct 31, 2012, 1:53 PM**

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Originally Posted by cornholio

Networking is the big one but its overblown in my opinion, technology is too good now. Actual physical interactions are less common, and YES they are no less important but you don't need as many as you would have 10-20 years ago. Generally speaking you will physically meet only for major milestones or special introductions, not often enough to make a difference if your located within a 10min walk or a 30min drive in the same region.

I'm not sure what industry you are in, but in my job there is still tons of face to face meetings, and they are important. Go to the airport on any given day, I bet more than 50% of the people there during non-holiday times are business travellers. It amazes me with the amount of time and effort businesses will spend to get some people in the same room together, yet that's how things get done. If there were a better method that people believed in, somebody would have done it and be successful (again speaking of my industry).

I know that isn't exactly the same as being located downtown, but one thing downtowns around North America have is efficient methods of commuting.

s211 · #**144** Posted **Oct 31, 2012, 3:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by cornholio

I understand that but that's why I said executives making decisions based on old habits and past trends. Times have changed thanks to technology. Supply networks are more efficient, communication is simple and efficient over any distance, the economy and markets are global, etc. I can keep going on and on, there is no need imo to locate downtown, actually its a draw back and more expensive to boot.

Even 20 years ago things were different, we live in a different world now.

So again imo there is NO advantage of being located within walking distance of a "large" number of other companies, ZERO advantage. Thats why I am surprised office buildings are still being built downtown, I would have thought things would have changed by now but I suppose we need another decade for a good turn over of the decision makers within these companies.

I would bet my house on the fact that the office market downtown will weaken and prices will collapse to directly compete with the rest of the region, and make up for the disadvantages of the location. I give it two decade's, and that's only because I am playing it safe as my gut tells me less then that.

Is this an April Fool's joke? I can only hope so. There's a little think called person-to-person interaction which humans used to crave. I can only hope that the antisocial iPad-from-my-grow-op crowd are an abberation.

wrenegade · #**145** Posted **Oct 31, 2012, 4:59 PM**

Does anyone know how the vote went last night? Or if it was pushed (there were a number of speakers registered)?. I was only able to stay as late as to see the end of staff and the applicant's presentations.

trofirhen · #**146** Posted **Oct 31, 2012, 6:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by s211

Is this an April Fool's joke? I can only hope so. There's a little thing called person-to-person interaction which humans used to crave. I can only hope that the antisocial iPad-from-my-grow-op crowd are an abberation.

Ain't it the truth!

(television has played a major role in the depersonalization of society, too, but that's another story, another context).

Spork · #**147** Posted **Nov 3, 2012, 11:54 PM**

You all must read the first letter in here from a resident of Jameson House. Absolutely ludicrous: http://former.vancouver.ca/ctyclerk/...20121030-r.pdf

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Also the lighting of the building will affect the lighting on my place in which as an interior designer
designed and has to be changed from the scratch, which is not something that I could achieve in next
few years simply because simply I cannot afford to change my furniture. This building would also blocks
my view plus it adds a shadow view which clearly effects, and regardless of all of the architectural
changes they make, after looking at the blue print and exact location this issue could not be solved
when and lighting in this uniquely designed building changes, the way it looks inside and outside. Also
noises that usually rise in the neighbourhood would drastically change the way I live in my own
property.

trofirhen · #**148** Posted **Nov 4, 2012, 2:46 AM**

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Originally Posted by Spork

You all must read the first letter in here from a resident of Jameson House. Absolutely ludicrous: http://former.vancouver.ca/ctyclerk/...20121030-r.pdf

Hm. Interesting syntax here and there.

dreambrother808 · #**149** Posted **Nov 4, 2012, 3:12 AM**

Think of the furniture!!

SpongeG · #**150** Posted **Nov 4, 2012, 3:47 AM**

what language does that letter writer normally speak?

Klazu · #**151** Posted **Nov 4, 2012, 5:29 AM**

OMG, what an idiot!

Chadillaccc · #**152** Posted **Nov 4, 2012, 6:08 AM**

Wow, grammar and punctuation aside, his reasoning is completely deluded. You can't just stop human development just because it might impact the lighting in your freakin building. Jesus, people have been living in highrises with newer highrises going up around them for a century now. Why should this be any different?

vansky · #**153** Posted **Nov 4, 2012, 8:24 AM**

i feel bad for the residents of jameson house, because they r facing an unstoppable government in a democratic society, hahahaha......heard about the casino, it's back on the table...after the election, ....

Alex Mackinnon · #**154** Posted **Nov 4, 2012, 9:36 AM**

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Originally Posted by vansky

i feel bad for the residents of jameson house, because they r facing an unstoppable government in a democratic society, hahahaha......heard about the casino, it's back on the table...after the election, ....

Due diligence. They bought in the designated CBD area. Hopefully to be close to relevant business.

The RE agents tried to sell my mom on all trucks getting pulled off Front Street in New West when she was looking at places. I told her it was all BS.

I'm sure the people buying in this building were probably privy to the same kind of BS expectations laid out by real estate agents. The agents don't do a very good job explaining what may eventually happen around their site. Any why would they, it would only be a liability in selling units.

trofirhen · #**155** Posted **Nov 4, 2012, 1:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by trofirhen

Hm. Interesting syntax here and there.

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Originally Posted by SpongeG

what language does that letter writer normally speak?

My point exactly, Sponge.

trofirhen · #**156** Posted **Nov 4, 2012, 1:27 PM**

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Originally Posted by Chadillaccc

Wow, grammar and punctuation aside, his reasoning is completely deluded. You can't just stop human development just because it might impact the lighting in your freakin building. Jesus, people have been living in highrises with newer highrises going up around them for a century now. Why should this be any different?

Totally. Furthermore, if you buy downtown, you should be aware that a lot of large-scale building construction may be happening around you. And no, you don't have extra, over-arching priviledges just because you're a resident. If you're not prepared to live downtown, there are plenty of other places to choose from.

Jebby · #**157** Posted **Nov 4, 2012, 4:58 PM**

There is no way that letter is serious, it has to be some epic trolling.

TwoFace · #**158** Posted **Nov 4, 2012, 6:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by Jebby

There is no way that letter is serious, it has to be some epic trolling.

I think someone is pulling your leg.

In other news, I once stopped the construction of a bridge because the colour clashed with my suit.

WarrenC12 · #**159** Posted **Nov 4, 2012, 6:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by Alex Mackinnon

Due diligence. They bought in the designated CBD area. Hopefully to be close to relevant business.

The RE agents tried to sell my mom on all trucks getting pulled off Front Street in New West when she was looking at places. I told her it was all BS.

I'm sure the people buying in this building were probably privy to the same kind of BS expectations laid out by real estate agents. The agents don't do a very good job explaining what may eventually happen around their site. Any why would they, it would only be a liability in selling units.

I'd say the RE industry is the biggest to blame here. The sooner people understand they are just like used car salesmen, the better.

Jimbo604 · #**160** Posted **Nov 4, 2012, 6:57 PM**

City of Vancouver Public Hearing Tuesday, October 30, 2012 6pm

Item #3. REZONING/HERITAGE DESIGNATION/HERITAGE REVITALIZATION AGREEMENT (HRA): 475 Howe Street and 819 West Pender Street

On this item from the meeting minutes:

Council Decision
MOVED by Councillor Louie THAT Council refer discussion and decision on the application regarding 475 Howe Street and 819 West Pender Street to the Regular Council meeting on Tuesday, November, 13, 2012, as Unfinished Business.

CARRIED UNANIMOUSLY (Councillor Reimer absent for the vote)