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Old Posted Apr 15, 2009, 3:14 AM
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That was a pretty cool pdf. Just wondering, in one picture it seems like they added/will add retail/coffee shops on the Canada Place pier....or is that what's already there, the shops near the Canada Place convention centre entrance on the pier?
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Agreed, that slideshow was very impressive. I don't know if anyone else noticed, but there were a few odd bits, like two slides with pictures of the same corner but one had an lcd screen and the other did not, and an awning with reversed letters and numbers.

I hope they do this right and follow their own presentation - "beyond cliches".
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some lighting ideas - found this pic

and some info/background http://www.dezeen.com/2009/03/05/moo...rban-alliance/

these could really help brighten up some dead walls - wither as advertising or just public art - maybe the dead spot under the burrard street bridge? sears wall? etc etc...

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That was a pretty cool pdf. Just wondering, in one picture it seems like they added/will add retail/coffee shops on the Canada Place pier....or is that what's already there, the shops near the Canada Place convention centre entrance on the pier?
there was one coffee shop along the pier inside the hallway at canada place

its closed right now while the renos go on

but what could they add? theres not much i can imagine doin well there
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Old Posted Sep 4, 2009, 10:27 AM
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Arrow Light up our heritage, too, please .........

One place that has been neglected in terms of lighting - and here I'm talking street level - is the Georgia façade of the current Vancouver Art Gallery.

People are so understandably wrapped up with all the new construction and lighting thereof happening in the city, that it's understandable that they would overlook this, but it is very significant for several reasons.

First, it occupies a place that, like it or not, is more or less at the "heart" of downtown Vancouver. Facing onto Georgia, with Howe and Hornby streets on either side put you right at "ground zero" whether you like it or not. People often drive past it and take it for granted because it's been there so long, but there it is.

Secondly, and equally importantly, this building, designed by Rattenbury, is perhaps the finest true "heritage building" in the city. The design is neo-classical, and the Greco-Roman influence can be seen manifesting itself in the classic Georgian design of the building, culminating in the grand staircase, the Doric colums, and the elegant stone lions.

Yet most of the "action" happens of the Robson side of the building, leaving the Georgia side in neglect.

One travesty is the neglect of the grand staircase, and above all, the regal stone lions. In most cities, the citizenry would want to celebrate this oasis of classic elegance, but in Vancouver, the building front sits in quasi-obscurity, the only thing really lit up being the aesthetically questionable Centennial Fountain.

I think the lions could be dramatically lit up, for example with white lighting one aone side, and another colour, whether gold or blue on the other to give a counterpoint effect and dramatize this jewel of elegance for all it's worth.

I've seen plans for turning the building into a hotel lobby, adding concrete wings to it, and otherwise permutating it into something altogether different like concrete recombinant DNA. The results are often impressive, but lack refinement, and are a kick in the face to the neoclassical design of the building and (don't everybody boo and hiss when I say this) but a testimonial to the lack of taste and indifference to something truly elegant.

Why has this allowed to go on so long? Why ahs nobody addressed the topic? Doesn't ANYBODY out there get irked when they see this potentially regal site "rotting" visually?

Again, this is partly undertsndable in a city like Vancouver, where "NEW ! ! "
is the order of the day, and "old" seems to take a back seat.

But it's a tragedy that "Georgia Square" and the magnificent classical building façade have never been given any treatment, and are just left like a second class citizen,
while the weird stone fountain bubbles merrily along in harsh primary colours of red yellow and blue.

The future of that building, and the aesthetic treatment of it over the years to come will be a litmus test of whether the majority of Vancouverites are informed and culture-minded, or dazzled by condos and glitz.

As a closing remark, (if anyone is still reading) I'd like to say, form 10,000
km away, WOULD SOMEBODY PLEASE PLEASE PLEASE TAKE UP THE GEORGIA V.A.G. FACADE, AND GIVE IT THE ELEGANT UPGRADE IT DESERVES ? ?

If not, The city will have proven itself to be what others have called it, and what it hates to be thought of as: a gigantic, new-rich, hicktown.

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Montreal Old Port Lighting Plan

I work down here, and I must say walking along the water at night or seeing this from a distance is really something.


http://www.vieux.montreal.qc.ca/plan...g/lu_intra.htm
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Two thumbs up for trofirhen! Excellent Point about the VAG. I still don't understand that. At the risk of droning on (I know I bring it up a lot), when I lived in DC, you would walk by random buildings in neighborhoods that had some nice architectural feature or another, and it would be delicately and precisely lit to amazing effect. Not in Georgetown, not in the federal area, not on Embassy Row, just some small agency or even private (relatively modest) home.

As the VAG is the closest thing in Vancouver to a DC building, it pains me each time I walk by to see how it's just sort of "there." It's particularly galling when they string big balloons of babies (or whatever that was) up over the Georgia street side or string some printed sheet on the Robson side to promote the latest exhibit.

That's a sharp building. It's really quite nice inside. Respect it's exterior and give it the prominence it should have, particular as trofirhen points out, it is essentially the "heart" of downtown. It's not the biggest building, by far, but it is one of THE most visible buildings. For visitors, especially.

Now's when I add the plus that Hudson Bay REALLY should have done something with the peeling awning when they renovated and re-lit the entire exterior. And, Sears, CLEAN YOUR BUILDING!

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I dunno if you've been away from the city for the past while but they've been lightin' that baby up every chance they get. Earlier in the year they had a native indian motif going on which was pretty cool. I believe right now it looks more or less like this.



Granted, it could be vastly improved upon.

Photo by Rachel Topham
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That pic you show is the nicest I have seen it, but it's not consistent. It almost seemed like a fluke, though you are correct that it was an improvement that deserves to be noted.
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I dunno if you've been away from the city for the past while but they've been lightin' that baby up every chance they get. Earlier in the year they had a native indian motif going on which was pretty cool. I believe right now it looks more or less like this.



Granted, it could be vastly improved upon.

Photo by Rachel Topham
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The south side is definately not lit up like that at night.

Wish it was!
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I work down here, and I must say walking along the water at night or seeing this from a distance is really something.


http://www.vieux.montreal.qc.ca/plan...g/lu_intra.htm
Yeah when I was there I stayed for awhile in old Montreal. That place is awesome anytime of the day but it especially looks good at night.
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The south side is definately not lit up like that at night.

Wish it was!
the south side is too much of a mess at best
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The city will have proven itself to be what others have called it, and what it hates to be thought of as: a gigantic, new-rich, hicktown.
But as many others on this forum have said, "I like Vancouver the way it is." You can't do much when you have so many people with this attitude.
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And, Sears, CLEAN YOUR BUILDING!
Their building is really filthy, isn't it? It's an absolute embarrassment to the city. Unfortunately, Sears has been losing a lot of money over the last few years and they've barely been able to clean the INSIDE of its stores, let alone the outside.
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the south side is too much of a mess at best
How so?
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But as many others on this forum have said, "I like Vancouver the way it is." You can't do much when you have so many people with this attitude.
I'm pretty sure that's how democracy works.

I believe the city has official policy on this titled "living first". So generally the decisions that are made typically favour the people living in any respective neighbourhood.

http://vancouver.ca/commsvcs/currentplanning/living.htm
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Exclamation the way it is ...........................

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But as many others on this forum have said, "I like Vancouver the way it is." You can't do much when you have so many people with this attitude.


True, but I think they are speaking in a global, overall sense. Yes, Vancouver is a lovely city. But there are specifics that still need work, AND THIS IS ONE OF THEM
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Their building is really filthy, isn't it? It's an absolute embarrassment to the city. Unfortunately, Sears has been losing a lot of money over the last few years and they've barely been able to clean the INSIDE of its stores, let alone the outside.
I actually don't mind the Sears building (more from the view point of what it could be), but it defo needs seem major elbow grease. They could really make a statement with it (no not nuking it) using lighting effects at night and art displays during the day. Happen their days are numbered and they can see the 'writing on the wall' so to speak.

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I'm pretty sure that's how democracy works.

I believe the city has official policy on this titled "living first". So generally the decisions that are made typically favour the people living in any respective neighbourhood.
And that is the problem with having residents in every block of our city, we no longer have districts.

Hence why we need to stop adding residential to mix use buildings along entertainment and commercial streets. This approach works in Europe and Asia where people have better things to worry about than the light from a Coca Cola sign and the noise from the pub down the street, but in Vancouver where people have it so good they complain about everything, we need to start having hotel/entertainment/office/commercial only mix use blocks.
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