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Old Posted Feb 11, 2011, 1:56 PM
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The bus terminal in Kitchener was built in the mid-eighties to service an urban population of about 225,000. Any terminal for London would have to be significantly larger than the current Kitchener terminal.

Besides, all you guys are mayor Joe supporters! What happened to cut cut cut?
I am not sure it would need to be any bigger than the current Kitchener terminal, keep in mind it also services Greyhound, Coaches, etc where as the London terminal would not be used for that function...though I suppose it could be if they had a chance to stop using the current Greyhound location and make one large terminal. As you know the issue with that is space.

I am a Joe supporter however the "cut cut cut" thing means nothing. I have no problem paying my fair share for things that the city needs. Of course the issue with that is I am one opinion and you cannot please everyone lol.
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SSP London meetup tomorrow (saturday february 12) at Crabby Joes downtown. come one, come all.

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Standing in the rear door

Something that bugs me on London Transit is when people (usually young men) stand right in the rear exit. I don't know how many times over the years I've had to get by someone blocking the exit. Even when the bus is mostly empty, I see someone gravitate to that area. Sometimes it also makes it hard to get to the back of the bus. I once told someone as I got off that they shouldn't stand there, and I got some attitude back so I haven't said anything since.

London Transit drivers seem to tolerate the practice. One time I was on a TTC streetcar a driver refused to move until a young man moved away from the exit. The driver kept yelling and the guy refused to move, at least until I stepped in.

What is so appealing about standing there?
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What is so appealing about standing there?
It's the badass spot
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Old Posted Feb 23, 2011, 11:14 AM
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It's the badass spot


The "badass" spot is in the middle "Look mom no hands!" position. Either way, riding in a bus isn't "badass"

Anywho, from walking in high school, everyone stopping in the middle giving hugs and just plain stupid, I'm 6'5" 250lbs get the fuck out of my way or I will force you out of my way.
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I was out at Argyle Mall today and I took a bus from there to downtown. I think the bus terminal on that property is underutilized and has a lot of potential for a regional transit hub for all of East London and for commuters from east of London. From there you can get directly to Fanshawe, Downtown, and UWO, and the west end. The land is owned by Retrocom (SmartCentres) and they have a lot of vacant land on that property that could be used for commuter parking.

(Why was I at Argyle Mall? I had a job interview at an office in that part of the city.)
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Shuttle run will fuel the fun
DOWNTOWN: Jam-packed weekend easier to navigate thanks to bus loop linking Snoop Dogg, k.d. lang, the Fringe and more

By KELLY PEDRO, The London Free Press

Londoners will be able to hop on shuttle buses next Saturday to get to six events happening within blocks of each other downtown.

The jam-packed weekend and construction projects prompted organizers to establish the impromptu shuttle service.

"We thought it would be kind of a cool idea if we all came together and put together a shuttle to get people downtown a little bit easier," said Lisa Thomas, marketing and special events co-ordinator of Downtown London.

Voyageur is providing two shuttles that will run from 3 p.m. until midnight on June 18. The buses will run on a loop bordered by King St., Wellington St., Queens Ave. and Ridout St. A round trip should take about 15 minutes.

With two concerts -- k.d. lang at the Grand Theatre and rapper Snoop Dogg at the parking lot of the London Music Hall on Queens Ave. -- the Fringe festival, Nuit Blanche, the Car-Free Festival and the Kids Expo at Victoria Park, thousands are expected to flock downtown.

"There's just so much going on," Thomas said.

But for the first time, the events won't happen in isolation.

The idea, said Thomas, is to encourage people attending one event to also visit the others. Families checking out the Kids Expo at Victoria Park may stick around for a kids' band playing at 7 p.m. at the Car Free Festival, Thomas said.

Concert-goers enjoying k.d. lang or Snoop Dogg may also stay for the various Nuit Blanche events in the core.

Downtown merchants are looking forward to the weekend.

"Our merchants embrace it because with the revitalization efforts down here, they want to show that off, too," Thomas said.

The concerted effort stems from a report several years ago by the downtown task force that recommended a convergence of festivals and events to draw people downtown.

"That can foster social cohesion, bringing together people from different neighbourhoods. It's also great for bringing in out-of-towners because it's highlighting what London has to offer," said Jason Gilliland, director of the urban development program at the University of Western Ontario.

Having a celebration of festivals can also help avoid "festival burnout" some may experience as the summer goes on, he said.

Downtown London has been trying to get new festivals to co-ordinate with existing festivals to create a unique experience, said Janette MacDonald, manager of Downtown London.

"We're really trying to work together to make the weekend much bigger," she said.

"It's something we've been promoting for a long, long time and it's finally coming together."

Check out The Free Press next week for more on some of these events

DOWNTOWN EVENTS

London Fringe, June 17 to 26

A 10-day theatre festival featuring local, national and international performers who vie for attendance and awards.

Nuit Blanche, June 18, 9 p.m. to 3 a.m.

Galleries, museums, laneways, sidewalks, alleys and parks become venues for contemporary art activities, exhibits and performances.

k.d. Lang, June 18, 8 p.m.

The Grammy and Juno award winning singer performs at the Grand Theatre with her touring band the Siss Boom Bang.

Snoop Dogg, June 18, 7 p.m.

The U.S. hip-hopper plays outdoors at the London Music Hall parking lot.

Car-Free Festival, June 18 to 19

A two-day environmental festival with live music, vendors, kids' activities and local artists in one big street party.

Kids Expo, June 17 to 19

Music, performances, demonstrations and fun for kids aged three to 15 at Victoria Park.

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Sounds like a cool idea, and it's awesome that all these events are happening at once! I know that I would not want to be late for the Snoop Dogg concert if I was at the Kids Expo, and had to go see k.d. Lang!
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Interesting blog/article from the Free Press.

LTC next year will have buses meeting the same service levels as what was around in 1990.

http://blogs.canoe.ca/londoncityhall/general/ltc-goes-back-to-the-future/

HOw good was transit back then? That's incredible if you think about it
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Anyone go to Fall festival? I went friday night. Hardly anybody there.
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Anyone go to Fall festival? I went friday night. Hardly anybody there.
I drove by Victoria Park yesterday and there didn't appear to be anything going on there.
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I've been thinking about a possible LRT network for London consisting of 4 lines. I took into account current nodes and denser areas, and also possible future nodes (old Psych Hospital lands, Oxford and Wonderland, etc.)

Also, notice all 4 lines go past the intersection of Dundas and Richmond. I feel that the intersection could be a good transfer place if they do it right.

What do you guys think?
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I like the Richmon/Wellington and Hamilton/UWO route but I'm not sure about the other two.
I like the Dundas/Airport section but after that I would head it to Wortley but then continue the line down Wharncliff to Commissioner over to Westmount Mall. Also the other line I would use our route to Wonderland and then head north at Wonderland up to Sherwood Forest or all the way up to HWY#22.
That said first things first, they have to extend the operational hours especially on Fri/Sat to atleast 1:30 am.
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Why extend to Westmount? It's a dead mall, and Wonderland is already designed for only cars in mind. It's just massive parking lot after massive parking lot... How would having LRT over there make any difference?
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Why extend to Westmount? It's a dead mall, and Wonderland is already designed for only cars in mind. It's just massive parking lot after massive parking lot... How would having LRT over there make any difference?
I honestly don't think most of the proposed lines would work as intended. In most cases, you simply don't have the density to support them; a good example was the one you pointed out, but also the Hamilton Rd. portion. The entire roadway is narrow and surrounded by Scarberia-esque development, so not only would you see a poor return on light rail, but you would also see more congestion resulting from mixed streetcar-automobile traffic. I don't like the Byron extension because the place just doesn't have the density to justify the added expense of construction.

The 2 Dundas and 6 Richmond are very popular with students, and they seem to like the fact that the buses are able to go through the University campus to shorten walking distances. It's more convenient that way. The campus is not friendly terrain for streetcars, so you would lose the convenience aspect of buses while gaining no tangible benefits. Adding to that, Richmond is already very busy 4-lane street that already has enough obstacles for buses to dodge. One stalled car would not only tie up the streetcars, but the entire arterial. Perhaps trolleybuses would be a better choice?

I like the Wellington Road line, but I think it should turn onto Dundas rather than weave north. The Oxford line would be a good idea since it runs through a couple of high-density nodes, and travels along a street that (for the most part) is fairly wide. Eliminate the jogs at Highbury and Wharncliffe, and you've got yourself a good crosstown line that can quickly move people from one end of the city to another.
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I think an L line connecting Western to Downtown, then travel from D & R along Dundas then up first st to Fanshawe would be best, with brt link to Victoria Hospital for the inital 5-15 years after set up.
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So I was in Toronto for new years, staying at a hotel along Yonge Street. I took the subway multiple times during my stay and in doing so re-realized just how much London Transit sucks.

Then a thought occurred to me. If London isn't considering light rail/RT due to space constraints, why not build some subways? I know this is a pipe dream but can you imagine how much development, density, growth and prosperity it could bring to London?
-Getting shovels in the ground would also help stimulate the economy, creating many jobs.

I imagine two lines for London.
-The Richmond line: running from the VIA rail station in downtown towards UWO and Masonville Mall below Richmond Street.
-The Oxford Line. It would start at Richmond and Oxford and head below Oxford Street towards Fanshawe College and the London Airport.

-Future extensions could include the Wellington line, which would continue the Richmond line from the VIA rail station, extending it to White Oaks Mall along or below Wellington Road. A western extension of the Oxford line could also be considered.

A rail/service yard could be built in the Airport area. Another possible location could be south of the 401 if the Wellington route is made. Perhaps the CP yard/line could be used as well.

One can dare to dream of improving London's sucky transit, right?
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^not in a 100 years would we see a subway in London. Hell, I have my doubts that there will be a downtown bus terminus by that time.
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No chance would a subway be built, they would never re-coupe the costs associated with building it. Granted something simply like you suggested haljackey would be very well used I just do not see it ever happening.

Best we can hope for in the next 10 years is a downtown terminal along with a few BRT routes....though I personally am hoping for a LRT system that is a pipe dream as well.
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