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Old Posted Oct 16, 2015, 5:30 PM
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Me neither. When did they break ground?
A couple months ago - they've been mostly doing demo/abatement.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2015, 5:48 PM
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This needs to be updated: it still shows Peachtree and 7th as a mere possibility.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2015, 6:13 PM
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This needs to be updated: it still shows Peachtree and 7th as a mere possibility.
There is a key below the chart with
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2015, 6:33 PM
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A couple months ago - they've been mostly doing demo/abatement.
They also haven't really touched the old buildings yet, from what I can see. There is a foundation already in place for a new building at the northeastern corner of the property, though I don't know what it is. It could be that little 80 unit apartment building.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 16, 2015, 8:03 PM
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... I saved an article a while ago from Atlanta Magazine that showed how the lust for parking revenue, among other things, contributed to the area around Turner Field remaining a development wasteland...
Many don't realize how stadium parking will inflate prices and push out other productive developments. Some quick numbers to show the challenges that Summerhill faced in the past and Cumberland will face in the future:

You can fit 150 parking spaces per acre (Could be up to 169): https://ag.tennessee.edu/cpa/Informa.../CPA%20222.pdf

Then let's assume the parcel isn't making a dime outside of the 81 home games a year.

And even though they probably can get $20 a space being right next door, let's assume they only get $15.

That gets you: 150 * 81 * $15 = $182,250 a year just by letting your acre lot sit empty.

Even if we assume that acre is going for the $2M, a 30 year mortgage on that is about $10K a month. That leaves you with a $60k, 50% profit margin per year while doing nothing more than holding the land. Not bad considering most of the people that buy these lots are really just looking to break even each year and make their profit selling the land after holding it for a couple decades as an investment.

Even things like hiring guys to monitor the lot, keeping the lot freshly paved, (or other things to be a good neighbor that most of these lots won't be doing) will not cost more than a few thousand a year or bring the profit margin down out of the double digits.

What other businesses can expect to come near a profit margin like that on land costing $2M an acre in the suburbs?

Given that the new stadium will provide 30% less parking spaces (6,000 vs 8,500 at Turner) and not have good transit access it is hard not to expect a lot of gravel-lot-wasteland-private-parking popping up in Cumberland in the next decade.

On the plus side, Summerhill will probably see more development in the next ten years than it has since the 1960s.
     
     
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Given that the new stadium will provide 30% less parking spaces (6,000 vs 8,500 at Turner) and not have good transit access it is hard not to expect a lot of gravel-lot-wasteland-private-parking popping up in Cumberland in the next decade.
Not in a CBD like that, no. An office tower can gross several million a year. I know it's fashionable to wish the worst for Cumberland but it's one of the largest office markets in the metro and it's full of cranes right now. There might be some fluctuations in housing and retail markets in the short term but it's not going to turn into Summerhill just because a stadium was built there. It's not going anywhere. Up toward Windy Hill is a different story, but that area's been slipping for years.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 17, 2015, 12:07 AM
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Not in a CBD like that, no. An office tower can gross several million a year. I know it's fashionable to wish the worst for Cumberland but it's one of the largest office markets in the metro and it's full of cranes right now. There might be some fluctuations in housing and retail markets in the short term but it's not going to turn into Summerhill just because a stadium was built there. It's not going anywhere. Up toward Windy Hill is a different story, but that area's been slipping for years.
I don't know. We will have to see how it looks in a decade or two. It is not going to happen overnight. After all, Cumberland is one of the top office markets in the metro today. But Cumberland is already lagging behind its peers like Sandy Springs and Dunwoody in new development and office relocations. Doraville, Chamblee, and even Memorial Drive near Turner Field are seeing development on the same scale as Cumberland. It is pretty easy to see one or two car dealerships and businesses a year along Cobb Parkway "temporarily" becoming game-day parking. Those things add up and can snow-ball.
     
     
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Not in a CBD like that, no. An office tower can gross several million a year. I know it's fashionable to wish the worst for Cumberland but it's one of the largest office markets in the metro and it's full of cranes right now. There might be some fluctuations in housing and retail markets in the short term but it's not going to turn into Summerhill just because a stadium was built there. It's not going anywhere. Up toward Windy Hill is a different story, but that area's been slipping for years.
it's a big office market but it also covers a TON of land - much more than a non-edge-city CBD. i can't find any evidence to believe that this ballpark is going to suddenly create demand for a bunch of new office buildings to fill all of the vacant land in the immediate vicinity.
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Slow few days in here. Any updates on anything?
     
     
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Plans for Westside Park Honoring Civil Rights Leaders Revived

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Rodney Mims Cook's Classical Adventure Land--
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2015, 6:46 PM
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that looks great, quality-wise. it's great to be seeing all of these new proposals that are of a better level of quality than what i've gotten accustomed to seeing, for sure.
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NCR HQ permit was filed on 10/10 being called Spring @ 8 in permits:

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ERECT HIGH RISE OFFICE TOWER WITH 533000 SF OF OFFICE SPACE. 1013 SPACE PARKING WITH GROUND FLOOR ACTIVE USE SPACE
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What do you mean?
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 20, 2015, 7:28 PM
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What do you mean?
Rodney Mims Cook, Jr is the founder of the National Monuments Foundation (based here in Atlanta) - responsible for the Millennium Gate in Atlantic Station among others.

That being said the park is a little self-serving given that all the monuments are being pushed as a neo-classical tributes to civil rights leaders all encompassed by his great-great grandfather's namesake -former Atlanta mayor Livingston Mims.

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