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CityBoyDoug · #**15841** Posted **Aug 1, 2013, 10:45 PM**

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ethereal_reality · #**15842** Posted **Aug 1, 2013, 10:52 PM**

Thanks CBD...I'll try it.
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originally posted by FlyingWedge

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below: I found this article dated 1878 about the Spanish-American Benevolent Society Picnic held at Agriculture Park.
P. Loiseau set up a shooting gallery, raising $7.00 for the society.

http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=LAH18780531.2.8&e=-------en--20--1--txt-IN------

In 1881 he offered his services as a 'sleight-of-hand' performer at Washington Gardens.
(I surmise the 'shooting gallery' mentioned in the article is also P. Loiseau's)

http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=LAH18780531.2.8&e=-------en--20--1--txt-IN------

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At the turn of the century shooting galleries seemed to be very popular in downtown Los Angeles. (a cluster was located in the N. Main Street area) I was surprised that many of the shooting galleries were located in basements. (as opposed to backyards with mounds of earth, or lower rent second floors)

Here's an example: "under the U.S. Hotel" -dated 1881

http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=LAH18780531.2.8&e=-------en--20--1--txt-IN------

From the 'north main cluster'....a shooting gallery located quite near P. Loiseau's shooting gallery at 43 Main St.

http://cdnc.ucr.edu/cgi-bin/cdnc?a=d&d=LAH18780531.2.8&e=-------en--20--1--txt-IN------

The shooting galleries were licensed (10 dollars a month), and gave away rather nice prizes.

CityBoyDoug · #**15843** Posted **Aug 1, 2013, 11:43 PM**

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ethereal_reality · #**15844** Posted **Aug 2, 2013, 12:05 AM**

MacArthur Park tourist's slides 1950s:

oops. -I didn't realize they were so large. -sorry...I'll fix them.

ebay

ebay

what in the hell is this thing?

ebay

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that's a nice car in the background behind the plants

ebay

ethereal_reality · #**15845** Posted **Aug 2, 2013, 12:25 AM**

-mystery location: Pink apartment house. (1940s?)

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Original-Stere...?pt=Art_Photo_Images&hash=item1c353e0efd

#3805?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/2-Original-Stere...s-1950s-Street-View-/121152343805?pt=Art

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BifRayRock · #**15846** Posted **Aug 2, 2013, 12:32 AM**

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Originally Posted by godzilla

tally-tally-tally (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/thomas_lincoln_tally)

"Tally's Edison Phonograph and Vitascope Parlour"

"Tally's on Spring Street, Summer 1896." (presumably 311 S. Spring)

http://publishing.cdlib.org/ucpressebooks/data/13030/gw/ft3q2nb2gw/figures/ft3q2nb2gw_00024.gif

http://farm1.staticflickr.com/204/488754120_884b92b22d_o.jpg

The continuing search for Tally's?

"Tally's" is directly below the left-most tower-parapet. Perhaps someone can identify the Hotel taking up most of the space in the drawing. Baist ('21) lists it as "Washington Bldg." Curiously, the drawing anecdotally resembles the Tally's Electric-Liberty-Glockner's located at 262 S. Main, located next door to Hotel Gray. Unfortunately, in the picture below, Tally's is out of the frame to the left. But it is close enough to afford a slight idea of the immediate area near what the "alleged" first purpose-built movie house in LA, CA or larger expanses. Hard to tell whether Main Street was paved, considering all of the dirt on the street. Third Street, to the right, looks even worse. Perhaps it was the rainy season - Fall or Winter since there are ads for a January 1 opening at the Burbank Theater (538 Main). On Third Street (right) next to the Gray would probably have been the Hotel George.,

As an aside, Urbanas asked about Tally's probable floor plan. The diagram above ^^^ may be for a later theater; however, it offers a good indication that the theater was narrow and probably canted as indicated by steps. It is unclear whether the screen was higher or lower than street level, but it is also clear from the diagram that the theater included a stage-proscenium and "scenery" of some kind. It is a guess that Tally's successors probably allowed for the possibility of live acts or a master of ceremonies to give away door prizes or make announcements.

Circa 1905 - The Gray Hotel, on the northeast corner of Main and Third.

http://digitallibrary.usc.edu/utils/ajax...EIGHT=379&DMX=0&DMY=0&DMTEXT=&DMROTATE=0

Small consolation, but it quite possible that the vent above the two story bricked building is - 262 S. Main.

ethereal_reality · #**15847** Posted **Aug 2, 2013, 1:10 AM**

-magic lantern slide 1920s.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-ORIG-20s...?pt=Art_Photo_Images&hash=item2580f2ffe3
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BifRayRock · #**15848** Posted **Aug 2, 2013, 1:25 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

Thanks CBD...I'll try it.
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At the turn of the century shooting galleries seemed to be very popular in downtown Los Angeles. (a cluster was located in the N. Main Street area) I was surprised that many of the shooting galleries were located in basements. (as opposed to backyards with mounds of earth, or lower rent second floors)

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibris/aleph/a19_1/apache_media/LSS69RU4KYDCI75243JKXCRB2CGCAU.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibris/aleph/a19_1/apache_media/I8BIFH621NYYTY5V1JVABYGYT2IXGQ.jpg

Through the late 1950's small caliber arms and military surplus rifles were treated by many as sporting goods. Like other entertainment and sports-related businesses, I would guess shooting ranges went through phases of popularity, the same as miniature golf and bowling. Consider that in the 1870's there wasn't much to be heard or seen on radio, tv or the movies, sans make believe. Entertainment was probably where you found it. Because of the noise, unless the range is in a stand alone business that can be sound proofed, the basement would be the next best bet. Picture sand bags. I suppose it makes it easier for the proprietor to police the spent rounds for reuse too. I can't seem to locate it, but I am certain there are a couple of '50s B&W photos of downtown near Bunker Hill where there is a shooting range amidst the populace. I assumed it was in the basement.

Beverly Hills had a rifle range too!

Quote:

Sergeant Arthur H. McBann demonstrates [a Thompson] for screen actor Fred MacMurray (left) during dedication ceremonies at a new Beverly Hills indoor range on March 12, 1949. At right is Beverly Hills Police Chief C. H. Anderson.

(Fred MacMurray apparently considered getting preparing himself should Stanwyck, Frawley or Demarest step out of line.)

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics41/00055328.jpg

And speaking of rifle ranges and their relative popularity, if HE didn't have one, he should have: Chuck Connors

http://www.oneheadlightink.com/sindication/wp-content/uploads/2011/11/rifleman2391.jpg

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics33/00051377.jpg

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics35/00052298.jpg

Anyone remember Roman Gabriel?

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics34/00051796.jpg

Drysdale, Bavasi, Kofax and Connors.

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics33/00051292.jpg

BifRayRock · #**15849** Posted **Aug 2, 2013, 1:53 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

MacArthur Park tourist's slides 1950s:

ebay

Harold Lloyd's middle aged stunt double?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-oCH-dOJudE4/Tfvi5fTx6hI/AAAAAAAAV7M/yIWqbQEcY7I/s1600/lloyd-1950.jpg

1740 Green Acres Drive

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-Vr632iM9OWU/UG...eizA/s640/HaroldLloydGAlawnspcearly1.jpg

Greenacres' horse stables looks vaguely like the Eiffel tower of rocks at MacArthur Park.

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-sL1w7iBcd4U/UG...-XLl-wY/s640/HaroldLloydGAstablespc1.jpg

Harold's home in the '20s at 502 S. Irving. Much closer to Alvarado than Beverly Hills. ER connects it with Monkey Island here -> -> http://forum.skyscraperpage.com/showpost.php?p=6089055&postcount=13954

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-ts72T5GLowU/UG...maKYg/s640/Haroldlloydearlyestatepc1.jpg

Sonny☼LA · #**15850** Posted **Aug 2, 2013, 2:16 AM**

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Originally Posted by JeffDiego

I've been off and on here for awhile, so this may be old news. A friend recently lent me a fairly new DVD, (beautiful, crisp print) of a 1951/52 film called "Without Warning." LOTS of good L.A. location photography (brand new freeways, the Produce Market etc.,) the highlight being a good deal of footage of Chavez Ravine when it was still a community of run-down little houses and dirt roads overlooking a very smoggy downtown and surrounding area.

Something I've wanted to do for awhile, since I rented Without Warning. Great Los Angeles cinematography and totally watchable. It's readily available so this may be old news to many on here (really old if you all saw it after Jeff's post)...just supercool scenes, though, so I wanted to post a few (and try out thumbnails because there are too many cool shots to list full-size - probably posting too many as it is). Here goes!

Address on the house is 632. Street? Could that be Spruce? Bridge in the background seems to be Stadium.

And that looks like the Park Row Bridge. Many of those houses appear to still exist.

Nice freeway chiaroscuro.

Excellent shot, LAPD on level 3. I'd say 'pun intended' but it isn't even a pun anymore - it just is both things - fine aim with a prop firearm and also a great view of the stack.

The escape.

The aftermath. Sweet-ass Ambassador Super Interceptor (it'd be cool if that's what they called them). One for the gasometer fans, too.

The obsessive compulsive key tosser. Another snazzy Nash and great background buildings. This is nitpicking but I imagine someone who tosses his keys as much as this guy is supposed to wouldn't need to stare at it like it's about to explode in his hand.

And some more...
It was hard to stop stopping the movie with so many great shots. Some of these I like for composition, others for the locations and people. The Eastside shoeshiner, the marbled and striped Stop sign, the woman in the "Open All Night" theater booth. And the view from this dude's house! Holy hell. I'd demolish that place purely out of jealousy!

Dark Sky Films

CityBoyDoug · #**15851** Posted **Aug 2, 2013, 3:36 AM**

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Originally Posted by Sonny☼LA

Something I've wanted to do for awhile, since I rented Without Warning. Great Los Angeles cinematography and totally watchable. It's readily available so this may be old news to many on here (really old if you all saw it after Jeff's post)...just supercool scenes, though, so I wanted to post a few (and try out thumbnails because there are too many cool shots to list full-size - probably posting too many as it is). Here goes!

This film is available for viewing on YouTube....its called a cult classic. Sounds cool. Thanks...Sonny.! Link below....

http://youtu.be/HEOWVP8dBQQ

RudyJK · #**15852** Posted **Aug 2, 2013, 3:58 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

MacArthur Park tourist's slides 1950s:

ebay

ebay

that's a nice car in the background behind the plants

ebay

These people all make me so happy; they have such dignity. That's in short supply today.

ER, thanks for all the hard work that you and all the regulars do here every day on 'Noirish LA.' This is my before bed treat most nights.

Chuckaluck · #**15853** Posted **Aug 2, 2013, 4:38 AM**

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Originally Posted by Sonny☼LA

Film was first production from same team that produced Rifleman, Big Valley and Mannix! (Levy-Gardner-Laven)

Size and Safety are Super.

http://carphotos.oldride.com/gallery/855886100084.jpg

http://www.shorpy.com/files/1949nashsuperSM.jpg

http://worldcarslist.com/images/nash/nash-600-super/nash-600-super-12.jpg

And the slightly larger model for extended families. Great for roadblocks. 10-4!

http://media.motortopia.com/files/1146/vehicle/4af35d239e5bf/My_Flxible_Clipper_4.jpg

1928 - Luna Park was "where it was at."

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibris/aleph/a19_1/apache_media/UBUUGVLNQN342AK6DF3N3LUNT3AANI.jpg

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibris/aleph/a19_1/apache_media/8J6S2GJ7G5454B9L2FML4UAHLGEJ46.jpg

http://jpg3.lapl.org/pics38/00068761.jpg

1987 - "No one was hurt in the 8:40 a.m. accident in westbound lanes near Victory Boulevard. Linda Been, 37, told California Highway Patrol officers that she was unable to safely brake when traffic stopped in front of her vehicle."

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00095/00095489.jpg

1981 - La Brea Avenue and Stocker Street. No fatalities. "Driver, we missed our stop."

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00095/00095457.jpg

http://jpg1.lapl.org/00095/00095458.jpg

1925 - Fully equipped Highway Patrol vehicle. Dig the extinguisher. Unk location.

http://jpg2.lapl.org/pics50/00059586.jpg

1929

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibris/aleph/a19_1/apache_media/8I8IS39A1K4MFYXCMY3M26KDCK1RTR.jpg

BifRayRock · #**15854** Posted **Aug 2, 2013, 5:13 AM**

Can Noir be Nice or Nicer? Never?

1963 - Two wheeler on Broadway

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibris/aleph/a19_1/apache_media/7DGA57UVLG4XJCLMYNNE8J446IN6PB.jpg

1958 - Seventh and Hill and Rain

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibris/aleph/a19_1/apache_media/FGNX5BPMHLNGXBANGBJLITVSTJVCE6.jpg

1946 Sheraton Town House (Guessing that some of those buildings to the right of the the Sheraton are at approximately 2900 Block of Wilshire and covered on GW's Blog: http://wilshireboulevardhouses.blogspot.com/2013_01_01_archive.html

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibris/aleph/a19_1/apache_media/X6SXXN5QHJGH3F2LP1NUYESF3UNIVC.jpg

1939 - First and Broadway

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibris/aleph/a19_1/apache_media/YV7MHNP14HFYB1H5XA1BUCBK9M7JDD.jpg

BifRayRock · #**15855** Posted **Aug 2, 2013, 5:25 AM**

1923 - A favorite photo.

Los Angeles Motor Bus Company. Unknown location. Anyone identify the building and determine if it still stands? The Bus says "Western" but the building style cries Hollywoodland-Beachwood-Griffith Park.

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibris/aleph/a19_1/apache_media/YEMR9PK1S15SHU5IYUB4YJMB9JTA9B.jpg

JScott · #**15856** Posted **Aug 2, 2013, 7:29 AM**

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Originally Posted by ethereal_reality

-magic lantern slide 1920s.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/Vintage-ORIG-20s...?pt=Art_Photo_Images&hash=item2580f2ffe3
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An unusual view of Downtown. It's clearly Hill Street looking north (note the two tunnels in the far distance), and counting streets down from 7th, this appears to have been taken from a vantage point at the NE corner of Hill and 10th. But what height-limit building used to stand there? There's nothing but a tacky strip mall on that site today.

And the year? The cars (what few can be seen) look like mid-1920s. One clue to a more specific date: it looks like the Warner Bros. Theatre is in the last stages of construction here. Or maybe this shows it in the process of losing its two top floors. The building doesn't have that profile today.

I must say, this isn't exactly a flattering image of Downtown. The city here looks downright dreary to me.

ethereal_reality · #**15857** Posted **Aug 2, 2013, 2:29 PM**

When I first saw that view I wondered where the photographer was perched.
-so thanks for pinpointing the location JScott.

ethereal_reality · #**15858** Posted **Aug 2, 2013, 4:46 PM**

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Originally Posted by BifRayRock

1946 Sheraton Town House (Guessing that some of those buildings to the right of the the Sheraton are at approximately 2900 Block of Wilshire and covered on GW's Blog: http://wilshireboulevardhouses.blogspot.com/2013_01_01_archive.html

http://catalog.library.ca.gov/exlibris/aleph/a19_1/apache_media/X6SXXN5QHJGH3F2LP1NUYESF3UNIVC.jpg

I couldn't help but notice the Botany Ties billboard.

"in Sand Hues!"

http://www.americanartarchives.com/williams,russ.htm
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ethereal_reality · #**15859** Posted **Aug 2, 2013, 4:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by Sonny☼LA

I wasn't aware of this film until your post Sonny LA. Thanks for all the great screen grabs! (enjoyed your comments as well)

-anyone recognize this neon from the film?

courtesy Sonny LA
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CityBoyDoug · #**15860** Posted **Aug 2, 2013, 5:33 PM**

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