Brampton and Mississauga provide far superior service to York Region Transit now, but all that service came after. In 2006, YRT's VIVA system with it's coverage and 10-15 minute frequencies all day was far superior to anything those other systems had at the time. But VIVA failed to address the basic problems of YRT: the lack of a continuous east-west corridor south of 16th/Rutherford, and the fact that most residents in York work outside of the Region (around 40% compared to 20% in Mississauga, something like that). Adding a Steeles route and some sort of fare integration with TTC would have helped with both of those problems (Brampton Transit has fare integration with Mississauga).
Multiple corridors in York Region are broken, such as Langstaff, and their biggest mistake was not building any new ones. Compare that Brampton which built Sandalwood Parkway and Williams Parkway, and Mississauga which built Glen Erin, Rathburn and Confederation. And even as lacking in corridors as York Region is, they don't even bother to provide bus service along one of their few east-west corridors, their main east-west corridor, Steeles Ave. York Region Transit can upgrade all of their routes to 5 minutes, but it won't change the fact that it's an incomplete transit system, and that's the real reason for their poor ridership.
You come in here and attack everyone and label everyone as "living in their mom's basement" who have "never experienced anything", I provide you with real world experience and evidence and you just completely ignore it and laugh it off and continue to double down on the idea that 10 minute frequency instead of 5 minute frequency is "a recipe for low transit usage", that an average 2.5 minute difference in waiting time is the difference between people driving and getting people out of car, as if low transit ridership is the reason for Waterloo's LRT to begin with. You are the one is making the wild claims here, and you are the one here who continues to fail to provide any real world experience or examples or evidence for any of them, not me.
It's funny, I have spent so much time to make negative photo threads like
Orlando Corporation's Heartland Business Community and
Mississauga: The 24-Hour City all centered on Mississauga, and while they get some appreciation on SSP, they got completely ignored on Urban Toronto. But the moment I dared to put Mississauga's transit system on the same level as Brampton Transit, suddenly everything I have done is labelled by people at Urban Toronto as "incessant boosterism". But now, even here, highlighting and bringing to everyone's attention the terrible frequency of a major Mississauga bus route to defend the LRT in Waterloo is labelled as a "misplaced sense of civic pride or honour". I'm just showing things as they are, and I will continue to do that no matter how much people think it is "incessant boosterism" and a "misplaced sense of civic pride or honour".
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