ATLANTA | Development Thread V - Page 784

arctk2014 · #**15661** Posted **Sep 25, 2015, 5:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by Atlanta3000

The largest buildings in the Southeast are predominately office buildings (except Miami). Atlanta's current development cycle is almost entirely comprised of multi-family rental. With that said, we could reach new heights if Atlanta multi-family developers would incorporate structures that are square - not rectangle. NYC is seeing a significant evolution is their city's skyline with buildings that are leaner and taller.

Atlanta's already notorious for being in the top rankings for high income inequality - we don't need any skinny skyscrapers to mark that "accomplishment" with this "square floorplate" typology. Every single one of the new skinny skyscrapers going up in NYC tops the other in height/cost per SF when it comes to real estate in this country. That's something that you really don't want to happen here.

jsvh · #**15662** Posted **Sep 25, 2015, 6:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by rbpaul

So I guess the Ga State proposal for the site is a no-go?

I am sure they will being involved with at least one of the bids. Many, including Mayor Reed, still see them as the front runner.

Atlanta3000 · #**15663** Posted **Sep 25, 2015, 7:18 PM**

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Originally Posted by arctk2014

Atlanta's already notorious for being in the top rankings for high income inequality - we don't need any skinny skyscrapers to mark that "accomplishment" with this "square floorplate" typology. Every single one of the new skinny skyscrapers going up in NYC tops the other in height/cost per SF when it comes to real estate in this country. That's something that you really don't want to happen here.

Serious question - Are skinny skyscrapers reserved solely for the rich?

I prefer leaner buildings because they block less light/sky.

arctk2014 · #**15664** Posted **Sep 25, 2015, 8:23 PM**

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Originally Posted by Atlanta3000

Serious question - Are skinny skyscrapers reserved solely for the rich?

I prefer leaner buildings because they block less light/sky.

The skinny skyscrapers in NYC are pretty much 1 unit per floor...MAYBE 2-4 units in some instances depending on the real estate- so every floor is being treated like a penthouse floorplan. You can't squeeze that many units onto a small floorplate and expect them to be even considered "market-rate" units. Building higher to accommodate more units is more of an exponential cost when it comes to providing for mechanical/electrical/plumbing needs for each of the units as well. It's just not economically sound for anyone unless you know you can get insane rents - which is why these towers are going up in an area of NYC being penned Billionaire's Row.

RocketSurgeon · #**15665** Posted **Sep 25, 2015, 10:11 PM**

Here are a couple retail updates. Click for full size.

Viewpoint buildout on 6th, looks to be near completion:

The completed Ace Hardware on 7th:

Martinman · #**15666** Posted **Sep 25, 2015, 11:01 PM**

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Originally Posted by RocketSurgeon

Here are a couple retail updates. Click for full size.

Viewpoint buildout on 6th, looks to be near completion:

The completed Ace Hardware on 7th:

I'm very happy that they did this with the Ace Hardware store. No more concrete facades please!

RocketSurgeon · #**15667** Posted **Sep 26, 2015, 3:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by Martinman

I'm very happy that they did this with the Ace Hardware store. No more concrete facades please!

I wouldn't write concrete off entirely but we got an awful lot of it for awhile and it looked more like a cost-cutting measure than a design decision. Fortunately it's easy to redo since it's just cosmetic.

It's basically a blank slate anyway... as tenants move in they make the spaces their own and variations get introduced. Even Skyhouse Midtown is getting some of that despite having some of the least desirable spaces around--those blue awnings are disappearing one by one. I think there will also be more of the complete renovations like the Viewpoint retail along Peachtree once there's a market for it.

joecool · #**15668** Posted **Sep 26, 2015, 5:04 PM**

So what is going into the build out? That would be a great place for a restaurant with outdoor seating and a place for a live band. Loca Luna would have been great there!

Matthew · #**15669** Posted **Sep 27, 2015, 2:52 AM**

State Farm at Park Center: September 26, 2015

I took four or five photographs. These are the only two that looked good enough to share.

Credit: Me

jnihiser · #**15670** Posted **Sep 27, 2015, 5:42 PM**

GSU Building:

Colonial Homes:

AC hotel:

Phipps Facade Improvements:

RocketSurgeon · #**15671** Posted **Sep 28, 2015, 5:39 AM**

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Originally Posted by joecool

So what is going into the build out? That would be a great place for a restaurant with outdoor seating and a place for a live band. Loca Luna would have been great there!

Still no signs up... I'm not sure if they even have a tenant yet. There was talk of it being a grocery store but I'm not so sure. It doesn't seem big enough for a Sprouts or Fresh Market and the Savi opening a few blocks away probably eliminates any chance of it being a specialty market.

A grocery store of any size is desperately needed, though, so I hope the old rumor is true

GeorgiaPeanuts · #**15672** Posted **Sep 28, 2015, 2:06 PM**

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Originally Posted by RocketSurgeon

Still no signs up... I'm not sure if they even have a tenant yet. There was talk of it being a grocery store but I'm not so sure. It doesn't seem big enough for a Sprouts or Fresh Market and the Savi opening a few blocks away probably eliminates any chance of it being a specialty market.

A grocery store of any size is desperately needed, though, so I hope the old rumor is true

I thought it was Eviva that was trying to get a grocery store. I walk by that Viewpoint space everyday and it is too small, there is no way a grocer could fit in it. Maybe the small form factor whole foods they are doing now I think is branded 365.

Tuckerman · #**15673** Posted **Sep 28, 2015, 2:12 PM**

Dekalb Farmer's Market

Over the past year I have watched the DFM develop and grade an enormous plot of land for a planned major expansion. However, I have not seen any particular details on this since the earlier announcement in 2014. Is there any update on this development?

Martinman · #**15674** Posted **Sep 28, 2015, 6:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeanuts

I thought it was Eviva that was trying to get a grocery store. I walk by that Viewpoint space everyday and it is too small, there is no way a grocer could fit in it. Maybe the small form factor whole foods they are doing now I think is branded 365.

It was reported that both were hoping to attract a grocery store. As mentioned above, the Viewpoint space is too small for anything but a Savi or something similar. The Eviva space was rumored to be designed for Publix's new urban store format but it would also be the right size for a Sprouts, Fresh Market, etc.

Verge · #**15675** Posted **Sep 28, 2015, 7:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by Atlanta3000

Serious question - Are skinny skyscrapers reserved solely for the rich?

I prefer leaner buildings because they block less light/sky.

Yes in their current incarnation driven by incredibly expensive land prices in very large cities--

GeorgiaPeanuts · #**15676** Posted **Sep 28, 2015, 8:01 PM**

http://www.bizjournals.com/atlanta/blog/...oats-coffee-bar-planned-for-midtown.html

Dancing Goats Coffee to open in Midtown in the Alta Midtown Development in the space across from the Midtown Marta Station

micropundit · #**15677** Posted **Sep 28, 2015, 8:08 PM**

U.S. Secretary of Housing and Urban Development Julian Castro announced Monday Atlanta won a $30 million Choice grant. The initiative is part of a White House-led effort to improve communities through affordable mixed-income housing, youth services and partnerships with schools and private entities.The funding will be used to revitalize communities in west Atlanta, including Vine City, Ashview Heights and the Atlanta University Center Neighborhood.
“This represents our belief that we can collaborate with you to make a difference in this University Choice Neighborhood area,” said Castro. It’s not just about housing. It’s also about ensuring that we lift up overall quality of life, that there are educational opportunities, there is access to transit, that there is a safe neighborhood, that there are investments that define prosperity.”

http://www.myajc.com/news/news/local-gov...itationbox_apr2013_ajcstubtomyajcpremium

joecool · #**15678** Posted **Sep 28, 2015, 8:15 PM**

Eviva is set to break ground in October, right? GOD I hope so...

GeorgiaPeanuts · #**15679** Posted **Sep 29, 2015, 12:14 AM**

It's still possible for Eviva to start October. A good sign is that the billboard has been blank black tarp for almost a month now

Ant131531 · #**15680** Posted **Sep 29, 2015, 3:09 AM**

Wouldn't we have heard something by now? It's wouldn't just randomly break ground without any announcement, press conference, or anything like that right? Like jeez, are they still struggling with funding? It's been like 2 years now it feels like. The average project takes about 9-12 months from initial announcement to break ground if they secure the funding and permitting.