CF Pacific Centre Developments - Page 78

connect2source · #**1541** Posted **May 29, 2014, 3:16 AM**

Yes, the random pattern adds nice 'play' the facade, however, the more I look at the building, the more I wished they'd matched the exact size of the grid on the TD Tower with all the glazing, ...would have tied in nicely and paid respect for the original integrity of the design of Pacific Centre.

officedweller · #**1542** Posted **May 29, 2014, 9:31 PM**

I know what you mean, but I think it would have been harder to break up the massing with a uniform sized panel.

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The angled (chamfered) corner glass at Granville & Robson has been installed at street level. Looks a bit odd.

dreambrother808 · #**1543** Posted **May 30, 2014, 3:09 AM**

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Visual effects company Sony Pictures Imageworks will relocate its head office from Culver City, Calif. to Vancouver and move into a new 74,000-square-foot headquarters in Pacific Centre next year, the company announced late Thursday.

http://www.vancouversun.com/business...292/story.html

trofirhen · #**1544** Posted **May 30, 2014, 3:17 AM**

Compared to the hideous, ultra-middle-class Sears store that occupied the old building; now with Nordstrom, Microsoft, Sony, and upscale retailers like
Prada moving into the new refurbished building, this seems almost a paradigm shift for downtown.

rsxstock · #**1545** Posted **May 30, 2014, 5:14 AM**

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Originally Posted by dreambrother808

http://www.vancouversun.com/business...292/story.html

oh wow that's amazing news

SFUVancouver · #**1546** Posted **May 30, 2014, 6:02 AM**

That's a serious get for Vancouver. Very happy news.

Vin · #**1547** Posted **May 30, 2014, 7:32 AM**

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Originally Posted by trofirhen

Compared to the hideous, ultra-middle-class Sears store that occupied the old building; now with Nordstrom, Microsoft, Sony, and upscale retailers like
Prada moving into the new refurbished building, this seems almost a paradigm shift for downtown.

However, even though office space has been increased for these high tech firms, retail space at prime shopping locations, like Pacific Centre, have been reduced over the years. I still believe that 'if you build it they will come' concept works for downtown Vancouver, and there really is a huge retail demand, even for the high-end ones. At the moment, there aren't a lot of spots to set up shop, other than Alberni and PC.

trofirhen · #**1548** Posted **May 30, 2014, 10:45 AM**

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Originally Posted by Vin

However, even though office space has been increased for these high tech firms, retail space at prime shopping locations, like Pacific Centre, have been reduced over the years. I still believe that 'if you build it they will come' concept works for downtown Vancouver, and there really is a huge retail demand, even for the high-end ones. At the moment, there aren't a lot of spots to set up shop, other than Alberni and PC.

Yes, what you say is true.
It is unfortunatate that West Hastings, around the Marine Building / MNP complex could not accomodate more high-end retail.
That's a classy, elegant part of town with a toney feel to it. The other neighbouring buildings are often nice, too, and Burrard Station is a hop away.
Wrong thread, I know; sorry.

Jebby · #**1549** Posted **May 30, 2014, 1:17 PM**

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Originally Posted by dreambrother808

http://www.vancouversun.com/business...292/story.html

Can't blame them. California has hung a "business not welcome" sign on it's front door.

Klazu · #**1550** Posted **May 30, 2014, 1:57 PM**

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Originally Posted by Jebby

Can't blame them. California has hung a "business not welcome" sign on it's front door.

What do you mean?

Jebby · #**1551** Posted **May 30, 2014, 3:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by Klazu

What do you mean?

California is the Worst State for Business 2013
http://chiefexecutive.net/california...-business-2013

California is the Worst State for Business 2012
http://chiefexecutive.net/california...-business-2012

The Worst States for Business - #41 California
http://www.forbes.com/pictures/mli45kikd/41-california/

California Ranks Almost Last in Business-Friendly Taxes
http://www.laweekly.com/informer/201...friendly-taxes

Ranked (out of 50 states):
#50 in Regulatory Freedom
#49 in Economic Freedom
#46 in Freedom from Tort Abuse
#48 in Property Right Protection
#45 in Freedom from Tax Burden
#50 in Finding a Job Freedom
#49 in Occupational Licensing Freedom
#50 in Labor Market Freedom

by the Mercatus Institute at George Mason University
http://freedominthe50states.org/overall/california

jlousa · #**1552** Posted **May 30, 2014, 4:05 PM**

Wasn't that long ago that BC had a similar honour. Lets not forget how quickly things can change.

LeftCoaster · #**1553** Posted **May 30, 2014, 5:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by LeftCoaster

Oh and some more announcements coming for this development soon.

This was the announcement I was hinting at a couple days ago. Great news for the development, and Vancouver in general. These big deals are really absorbing a lot of the new build office space, and it is absorption the market wasn't particularly expecting, which means the feared over-build of commercial space may not be as large as previously though. If this activity continues, and O&G continues to pick up steam in the city, we may see the next cycle get going much sooner than expected.

Jebby · #**1554** Posted **May 30, 2014, 5:59 PM**

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Originally Posted by jlousa

Wasn't that long ago that BC had a similar honour. Lets not forget how quickly things can change.

Yes, but then BC voters decided they didn't want a left-wing government. The way left-of-centre wing of the Democrat Party is not losing its grip on California any time soon.

Denscity · #**1555** Posted **May 30, 2014, 6:11 PM**

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Originally Posted by rsxstock

oh wow that's amazing news

Huge!! Ya Vancouver!

officedweller · #**1556** Posted **May 30, 2014, 7:19 PM**

Great news - interesting that Microsoft will have 400 employees on 2 floors, while Sony will have 700 employees on what is presumably 1 floor.

Pics by me today:

Chamfered corner entrance:
(strange how they removed the scaffolding that was there before (thought they would have used it to install stone))

Frame in place for another level of second skin:

The "selvage" panel at the Nordstrom entrance:

Another level of curtain wall rounding the corner:

Frankenberries · #**1557** Posted **May 30, 2014, 9:04 PM**

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Originally Posted by Jebby

Yes, but then BC voters decided they didn't want a left-wing government. The way left-of-centre wing of the Democrat Party is not losing its grip on California any time soon.

I don't think this has much to do with the provincial government. Tech companies tend to flock towards more progressive cities (San Francisco, Seattle, Austin). If anything, this recent shift is more likely due to civic government.

jsbertram · #**1558** Posted **May 30, 2014, 10:00 PM**

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Originally Posted by officedweller

Great news - interesting that Microsoft will have 400 employees on 2 floors, while Sony will have 700 employees on what is presumably 1 floor.

Pics by me today:

>snip<

I think that's the difference between 'open concept' space with large desk areas and tiny cubicles that have the apt nick-name of 'veal pens'.

I had the job one summer of dismantling the 'desk spaces' after a call centre vacated their building. The cubicles were 3 feet wide and the desktops were just deep enough to have a monitor (the old-style glass CRT) and keyboard & mouse. No room for file drawers and no place for a coffee mug or can of pop.

I figured I received a better wage when dismantling these cubicles and clearing the floor space, compared to what the former workers got while working there.

yuk!

jsbertram · #**1559** Posted **May 30, 2014, 10:16 PM**

If memory serves me, there are four office floors, each around 75,000 Sq. Ft.

Miller Thomson LLP has a half floor
Microsoft has two floors
Sony has one floor

so is there half a floor still un-booked?

or are the floor-space numbers skewed because the three top floors have space missing because of the two atria?

PaperTiger · #**1560** Posted **May 30, 2014, 10:26 PM**

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Originally Posted by jsbertram

If memory serves me, there are four office floors, each around 75,000 Sq. Ft.

Miller Thomson LLP has a half floor
Microsoft has two floors
Sony has one floor

so is there half a floor still un-booked?

or are the floor-space numbers skewed because the three top floors have space missing because of the two atria?

Miller Thomson’s new office is part of the redevelopment of the former Eatons/Sears building. The top four levels of the building are being converted to 280,000 square feet of AAA class office. Each floor has 17-foot ceilings, slab to slab, and offers 70,000 square foot floor plates

Source: http://www.cadillacfairview.com/note...+Redevelopment