ATLANTA | Development Thread V - Page 775

ATLSkyPalaceOwner · #**15481** Posted **Sep 9, 2015, 1:49 AM**

The 7th and Peachtree people said that they hope to start construction next year. Their presentation was very professional and well-done, and was complimented by several committee members. They seem pretty serious about it. It's a nice building that doesn't interfere with my view of the park

I also noticed on the way home that there was heavy machinery in the parking lot of 17th and Spring. It looks like soil sample machines? I'll post tomorrow if there is interest. From the devmap it looks like this might be the Ascent Midtown project.

jpk1292000 · #**15482** Posted **Sep 9, 2015, 1:58 AM**

Beautiful building. Hope it gets built.

The proposals are coming so quickly these days that it's impossible to keep up. It's a great problem to have!

ericdeatl · #**15483** Posted **Sep 9, 2015, 2:23 AM**

Here are a few photos I took from the back of the room at the DRC meeting showing three of the projects (the three first-time presentations):

https://www.icloud.com/sharedalbum/#B01J058xyJsdUek

The first series of photos are of Hanover Midtown at 7th between Peachtree and Juniper. The front portion of the building (next to Bulldogs) will be offices (approximately 7 floors with a rooftop terrace). Further back where the lot widens, this 7-floor base will contain the parking deck, residential lobby and a community room (the latter two facing Juniper) for the apartment tower, which will be on top (28 stories including the 7 story base). As seen, the apartment tower has a zig-zag shape, making it unique and giving more/better views. Based on the siting of the Hanover tower, south-facing Metropolis condo units toward the front of the building should still have a view down Peachtree over the top of the office portion of the building.

The second series of photos are of the Juniper project which will span the block from 4th to 5th street. The developer is targeting empty nesters, with larger units, perhaps for sale. The back of the building has 3 wings which step down to the alley between the building and the existing townhouses on Piedmont. DRC discussion points included sidewalk widths on 4th and 5th streets, and heights of unit terrace walls and below-ground terraces resulting from the topography change along Juniper.

The final series of photos are of the JPX Works apartment tower at the corner of Peachtree and 3rd St. (old Agatha's building and empty lot next to Hotel Indigo). This will be very high-end and architecturally unique. It's composed visually of a series of boxes, each 2 stories tall (containing 2 identical floorplan units, one above the other). There will be a small garden terrace on the 2nd floor over the residential lobby (adjacent to Hotel Indigo) and another terrace and the pool on the roof of the building. JPX Works just purchased the land last Thursday. They will be building a bridge to the Georgian Terrace parking deck behind the new building, and residents will have spaces in that deck, with their own entrance from 3rd street. There will also be 7 spaces reserved for the retail, expected to be a restaurant. Additional spaces in nearby decks/lots and/or valet parking can help meet additional parking needs for the restaurant.

The DRC was very supportive of all the projects, as well as the improvements to the dual-branded Marriott hotel between 13th and 14th and the Whole Foods, both of which improved street activation and fenestration relative to their original proposals. Whole Foods also added a rooftop terrace to part of their roof along 14th street.

RocketSurgeon · #**15484** Posted **Sep 9, 2015, 2:51 AM**

There's a noticeable uptick in quality with the more recent designs. That's a good sign.

Ant131531 · #**15485** Posted **Sep 9, 2015, 2:56 AM**

That Peachtree and 3rd project is GORGEOUS. That needs to be built. So unique for Midtown. The mix of history and modernness would be a striking contrast. 2nd most favorite project next to Eviva in Midtown.

Peachtree and 7th project is pretty meh...looks just like the one in Buckhead....I'm more for leaner towers in Midtown and leave the bulkier ones in Buckhead, but it's much needed infill I suppose.

We thought this recent boom was big....we haven't seen anything yet.

Ant131531 · #**15486** Posted **Sep 9, 2015, 3:05 AM**

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Originally Posted by RocketSurgeon

There's a noticeable uptick in quality with the more recent designs. That's a good sign.

The rents in Midtown are beginning to justify it now. 2.5-3$ per square feet....that's entering world class territory....that's when you start getting the really great looking projects because developers can expect to get more for their return. While plenty of cities are still getting cheaply built skyhouses, we're starting to get the heavy hitters. I mean, when Skyhouse South can charge 1900 for a 1 bedroom...yeah....I also think there's a massive demand boiling in Midtown.

Regardless, I'm really excited for 2016 and beyond. Midtown is finally beginning to realize it's full potential, much faster than even I expected.

Atlanta3000 · #**15487** Posted **Sep 9, 2015, 3:57 AM**

My only critique of the Peachtree and 3rd project are the gray areas between the floors. I wish they were white, or a mix of white and blue.

Right now the building is architecturally stunning, but visually it blends into the surrounding. I prefer architecturally stunning and visually - knocks your f'en socks off. Either way, this will be a very prominent Midtown building.

O - How great would this building look if were at the One Museum Place site?

RocketSurgeon · #**15488** Posted **Sep 9, 2015, 4:11 AM**

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Originally Posted by Ant131531

Peachtree and 7th project is pretty meh...looks just like the one in Buckhead....I'm more for leaner towers in Midtown and leave the bulkier ones in Buckhead, but it's much needed infill I suppose.

I think that's just the perspective of the rendering. On the elevations it's similar to Spire and probably a little smaller than 1010. It should fit in pretty well.

scania · #**15489** Posted **Sep 9, 2015, 7:33 AM**

I'm for the whole city at large. Be it Downtown, Midtown, Buckhead, etc. I'm not talking about everyone on here, but this board has become extremely Midtown bias. It's the attitude for all Midtown. Statements continue to be made that just amazes me. When people say that southerners all small minded, I swear this board can certainly depict that mindset. I'm not going to call out anyone, but it would be awesome if people supported the city period, and not just one area. Trust me, Midtown by no means can make Atlanta a world class city by itself...Buckhead, as well as Downtown are very instrumental for various reasons. The same goes for Midtown.

alco89 · #**15490** Posted **Sep 9, 2015, 11:05 AM**

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Originally Posted by Atlanta3000

My only critique of the Peachtree and 3rd project are the gray areas between the floors. I wish they were white, or a mix of white and blue.

If you look through the pics ericdeatl posted, it strangely appears that those areas are white.

ericdeatl · #**15491** Posted **Sep 9, 2015, 12:35 PM**

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If you look through the pics ericdeatl posted, it strangely appears that those areas are white.

Yes - the rectangular box "frames" were definitely white in the renderings last night, and the architect mentioned the intention of reducing the sense of massiveness by creating two story boxes (as opposed to emphasizing the separation between every story). Additionally, as in the renderings, he said that they plan to use transparent rather than reflective glass to give the building a definite transparency, i.e. when looking up at the corners of the building you can see through the boxes.

Ant131531 · #**15492** Posted **Sep 9, 2015, 12:52 PM**

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Originally Posted by scania

I'm for the whole city at large. Be it Downtown, Midtown, Buckhead, etc. I'm not talking about everyone on here, but this board has become extremely Midtown bias. It's the attitude for all Midtown. Statements continue to be made that just amazes me. When people say that southerners all small minded, I swear this board can certainly depict that mindset. I'm not going to call out anyone, but it would be awesome if people supported the city period, and not just one area. Trust me, Midtown by no means can make Atlanta a world class city by itself...Buckhead, as well as Downtown are very instrumental for various reasons. The same goes for Midtown.

When downtown actually begins getting large scale residential projects, then we'll talk about downtown and be more excited. Even the massive Post project downtown is struggling to actually start construction. Why would we talk about downtown when there's no new project renderings coming out for it?

And as far as Buckhead, when project renderings come out, we talk about those renderings to. Just about everyone here loves the the Buckhead rendering the same JPX company released for their new condo project.

Obviously, since new renderings came out for 3 project at once, we're going to be talking about Midtown. That's obviously where most of the investment has started going into in Atlanta and most people on a skyscraper board are naturally going to care about a neighborhood that closer to the city core and is actually walkable vs an area that's semi urban, semi suburban and not exactly in the heart of the city. We want Atlanta to become more centralized like Seattle or Chicago and building out Midtown is the start of that.

arctk2014 · #**15493** Posted **Sep 9, 2015, 1:39 PM**

http://www.citylab.com/design/2015/07/jengaform-architecture-is-everywhere/397424/

Let's just hope we can curtail the abuse of jengaform architecture with newer developments beyond these. It's already a tired trend.

testarossa50 · #**15494** Posted **Sep 9, 2015, 1:51 PM**

The 400 cap reminds me a lot of Klyde Warren Park in Dallas. It turned a freeway and a disjointed area into a focal point for the entire city. Now it's one of the most popular places to go anywhere. If Buckhead had that it would be amazing.

GeorgiaPeanuts · #**15495** Posted **Sep 9, 2015, 2:49 PM**

So the 7th and Peachtree won't touch Bulldogs? Is it going to take all the parking though or is parking next to Bulldogs remaining?

Also the billboard for Eviva property still has old ad up that was time sensitive for a concert happened Aug. 7th. It's been over a month now so that might be good sign that they didn't sign on another ad to replace it in the interim.

ATLSkyPalaceOwner · #**15496** Posted **Sep 9, 2015, 2:56 PM**

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Originally Posted by GeorgiaPeanuts

So the 7th and Peachtree won't touch Bulldogs? Is it going to take all the parking though or is parking next to Bulldogs remaining?

It won't touch Bulldogs and it won't touch the parking lot next to Bulldogs. It's a panhandle shape with only the narrow 60' strip of parking lot immediately adjacent to 7th street. The strip kind of expands into more of a square shape adjacent to Juniper. That was the reason cited for the residential portion not abutting Peachtree.

ericdeatl · #**15497** Posted **Sep 9, 2015, 3:40 PM**

After the meeting I asked Robin Loudermilk, who is developing the 10-story Seventh Condo project and will own the commercial and office portion of the Hanover Midtown (7th and Peachtree) development, "So Bulldogs will remain as is?", and he responded "We're working on that." I know that he already owns the building with Bezoria, Hi-Five, Noodle and T-Mobile, so perhaps he is still hoping to be able to buy Bulldogs or a portion of their property and somehow rework the commercial/office portion of the Hanover project.

shivtim · #**15498** Posted **Sep 9, 2015, 3:40 PM**

MARTA issues RFP for Oakland City station mixed use project.

MARTA is seeking proposals for a walkable mixed-use development at its Oakland City rail station, a long-sought spark for investment that could bring new housing, shops and restaurants to the southwest Atlanta neighborhoods around Fort McPherson. MARTA would seek developers for an underutilized parking lot around the station and an additional 8-acre site.

RocketSurgeon · #**15499** Posted **Sep 9, 2015, 3:48 PM**

Midtown gets talked about a lot because it has a lot of big projects. Downtown is still struggling to attract much beyond GSU buildings so there isn't much to discuss there. O4W is mostly mid-rise apartments which aren't too interesting. Buckhead has big projects and those get talked about (you just quoted one) but it's been outnumbered lately.

The only bias I see is from developers favoring Midtown which makes sense because it's the most liveable urban area. Downtown will have its day but I wouldn't bet on it being before the 20s.

Ant131531 · #**15500** Posted **Sep 9, 2015, 4:03 PM**

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Originally Posted by RocketSurgeon

Midtown gets talked about a lot because it has a lot of big projects. Downtown is still struggling to attract much beyond GSU buildings so there isn't much to discuss there. O4W is mostly mid-rise apartments which aren't too interesting. Buckhead has big projects and those get talked about (you just quoted one) but it's been outnumbered lately.

The only bias I see is from developers favoring Midtown which makes sense because it's the most liveable urban area. Downtown will have its day but I wouldn't bet on it being before the 20s.

Yeah, this is definitely not downtown's decade as far as large scale residential development is concerned, though it still has cool projects on the horizon like the Underground development and Post apartments in the Northern part of downtown.