CHICAGO | Salesforce Tower | 850 FT | 60 FLOORS

[bnk]

Originally Posted by 10023

I thought K&E were in 300 N LaSalle. Wonder why they’re moving so soon.

K&E had that tower built for them. Before that they were in the AON building.

[chris08876]

DSC_2748 by carpe|noctem, on Flickr

[harryc]

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[rivernorthlurker]

Originally Posted by PittsburghPA

Didn't they announce the one tenant wanted larger floor heights and they were going to deliver it? That could potentially bump the height? This may have been talked about before on here.

Additionally JP Morgan's 270 Park Ave building u/c in NYC is planned to be 1,388 ft at 58 floors! That's 24 ft per floor vs 14 ft for this (though 14' is more in line with most office heights). I've never heard of floor plates that high. It sounds like it's going to be a palace. Makes me dream that Salesforce could have added 2 ft per floor or something lol.

[BuildThemTaller]

Originally Posted by rivernorthlurker

Additionally JP Morgan's 270 Park Ave building u/c in NYC is planned to be 1,388 ft at 58 floors! That's 24 ft per floor vs 14 ft for this (though 14' is more in line with most office heights). I've never heard of floor plates that high. It sounds like it's going to be a palace. Makes me dream that Salesforce could have added 2 ft per floor or something lol.

There are so many proposed or u/c office towers in NYC with absurd height relative to their floor count.

Project Commodore, 1,565 ft, proposed, 83 floors
270 Park Avenue, 1,388 ft, u/c, 57 floors
PENN 15, 1,270 ft, proposed, 67 floors
The Spiral, 1,041 ft, u/c, 66 floors
50 Hudson Yards, 1,011 ft, u/c, 58 floors
3 Hudson Blvd, 987 ft, 53 floors

[rivernorthlurker]

Originally Posted by BuildThemTaller

There are so many proposed or u/c office towers in NYC with absurd height relative to their floor count.

Project Commodore, 1,565 ft, proposed, 83 floors
270 Park Avenue, 1,388 ft, u/c, 57 floors
PENN 15, 1,270 ft, proposed, 67 floors
The Spiral, 1,041 ft, u/c, 66 floors
50 Hudson Yards, 1,011 ft, u/c, 58 floors
3 Hudson Blvd, 987 ft, 53 floors

Thanks for the comparison. I had no idea about this. Is this like a new trend in building designs? 270 Park is still the outlier at 24ft/floor but a lot of those others are substantial. Where is all the space going...

I found this schematic on https://newyorkyimby.com/2019/11/new...rk-avenue.html even though it's a bit dated and the new building is taller but I imagine the distribution of space is similar.

The color code floors by office/trading/mechanical. The trading are a bit higher than the office but looks like the plethora of amenities will have huge floors and the mechanical seem massive as well. Adding all the amenity heights is probably 600+ ft.



The multi floor amenity levels with trees and the top are going to be incredible in my opinion. This building isn't built just for function, this is going to be a monument to capitalism and a wonder of the 21st century world lol.

[Briguy]

Originally Posted by rivernorthlurker

Additionally JP Morgan's 270 Park Ave building u/c in NYC is planned to be 1,388 ft at 58 floors! That's 24 ft per floor vs 14 ft for this (though 14' is more in line with most office heights). I've never heard of floor plates that high. It sounds like it's going to be a palace. Makes me dream that Salesforce could have added 2 ft per floor or something lol.

The trading flooors are probably triple height. So 10=400 ft it’s probably more similar to a 85-90 story regular building.

[thegoatman]

Man New York sprouts supertalls like its nothing, must be nice. We're lucky to get one once a decade, and that's if its not downsized.

[chicubs111]

Pretty much NY sprouts supertalls that Chicago sprouts 400 to 500 ft buildings about... I remember the days when NY pretty much doubled what Chicago did with regards to skyscrapers...now its pretty much 4 to 5 X...not that were not doing great relative to other cities...but NY just went to another stratosphere in the last 15 years

[Briguy]

Will be able to tell soon, but the floor spacing on the core DOES look to be a bit wider on the last few floors???

[rivernorthlurker]

Originally Posted by Briguy

Will be able to tell soon, but the floor spacing on the core DOES look to be a bit wider on the last few floors???

Not sure I see it but floors 38/39 are combined into 1 though that is kind of 'accounted for' because they are being counted as 2 floors instead of 1. See the diagram on https://www.333wolfpoint.com/the-icon/. This is also outside of the floors that Salesforce is leasing so maybe this could be 2 floors that Kirkland purchased and asked to be combined (or some other tenant). You can see this in the some of the photos above as well.

In either case, this is gonna be a totally baller space.

PS - If that is indeed Kirkland's 'showcase space' then it's probably unlikely that there will b any surprise 'super floors' left in construction.

[donnie]

Very soon Stonehenge of the America's will be complete.

[BVictor1]

11.02.21

[nomarandlee]

Originally Posted by BVictor1

11.02.21

Very cool. This photo just highlights to me the need to have some sort of sculpture in front of WPS that can match the Calatrava's work at River Point.

I know that originally there was supposed to be some sort of fountain in front of WPS that seems no longer in the cards, I am perfectly Ok with the idea of doing without the fountain but there needs to be something sculptural there.

[Tombstoner]

Originally Posted by nomarandlee

Very cool. This photo just highlights to me the need to have some sort of sculpture in front of WPS that can match the Calatrava's work at River Point.

I know that originally there was supposed to be some sort of fountain in front of WPS that seems no longer in the cards, I am perfectly Ok with the idea of doing without the fountain but there needs to be something sculptural there.

Personally, I think you rarely go wrong with a fountain--they lend grace and movement to just about any space and are a natural gathering spot. I also think the Calatrava sculpture is a bit of a disappointment. Not terrible, but nothing exciting or memorable.

[left of center]

Anyone know how many floors left to go? From my counting, looks like the ironwork is somewhere near floor 48-49.

[rivernorthlurker]

Originally Posted by left of center

Anyone know how many floors left to go? From my counting, looks like the ironwork is somewhere near floor 48-49.

Profile view on previous page showed floor 53 in the form, so 7 floors from the top to 60. But on the drawing on the website theres kind of this little 61st floor to the architectural top so you could say maybe 8 more floors to pour.

[left of center]

Wow I was way off. Thanks for the update!

[dewbs]

11.6.21
So here's a new image (full-size link):


Zoomed in version here. They haven't added any new floors since last week.

The floors that are covered appear to be 37-39. Counting up from there, 50 looks taller, which is consistent with the stacking plan here.

Measuring the image, 50 looks 25% taller than the lower floors, while the stacking plan shows it 20% taller. However, 49, as built, looks the same as 48 and below, whereas the stacking plan has it 10% taller.

As built, 51 appears to be 36% taller than 48 and below, whereas the stacking plan shows it just 10% taller.

Obviously the stacking plan might just be off on the heights. But the other possibility is that some of these upper floors are getting stretched, as was suggested in a previous post.

[rivernorthlurker]

Originally Posted by dewbs

11.6.21
So here's a new image (full-size link):


Zoomed in version here. They haven't added any new floors since last week.

The floors that are covered appear to be 37-39. Counting up from there, 50 looks taller, which is consistent with the stacking plan here.

Measuring the image, 50 looks 25% taller than the lower floors, while the stacking plan shows it 20% taller. However, 49, as built, looks the same as 48 and below, whereas the stacking plan has it 10% taller.

As built, 51 appears to be 36% taller than 48 and below, whereas the stacking plan shows it just 10% taller.

Obviously the stacking plan might just be off on the heights. But the other possibility is that some of these upper floors are getting stretched, as was suggested in a previous post.

Interesting observation about the pause. Could be a million reasons for that, one of which is modifying the design. Like when they paused 9 W Walton while figuring out how to add Ken's Griffin 3 floor penthouse to the design. Still slim I say, but hey, us skyscraper groupies can hope!