Salt Lake MSA Development Thread

[urbanboy]

Originally Posted by delts145

The larger theater in Sandy never made sense to me at this juncture. However, I think a smaller theater, oreinted toward family type productions would be an excellent addition over the next five years. Down the road though, as that metro area continues to boom there's no doubt that many additional amenities will be built.

What does this mean really? Perhaps you just mean community theater, smaller scale productions. Families go to all types of shows, large scale and smaller scale.

[Stenar]

Originally Posted by SLC Projects

"Thursday night, the Sandy Planning Commission approved the site plan for a temporary sales office. The three-story model home will be placed on top of a landscaped parking garage near 10100 South Centennial Parkway.
The building could go up as soon as August, said project architect Russell Platt. The structure could stand for three years."

I predict none of this will ever be built. At this point, it sounds like the first residential tower is contingent upon sales and I don't think there will be much, if any, demand for high-rise living in Sandy.

[delts145]

Originally Posted by shakman

It is the middle of June and there is still snow in the mountains?

Very beautiful and scenic photos. Thank you for sharing.

Infact, I see a new dusting of snow on Box Elder and Timp this morning.

[Urban_logic]

Originally Posted by urbanboy

What does this mean really? Perhaps you just mean community theater, smaller scale productions. Families go to all types of shows, large scale and smaller scale.

Perhaps he meant something like the Hale Centre Theater in West Valley. Not exactly a big "Broadway-style" theater, but more of a smaller, more local one. I know that West Jordan is planning a preforming arts center as part of its Sugar Factory re-Development Area. I think a lot of Utah communities could build smaller scale arts centers without negatively impacting the region as a whole. Salt Lake could have a large theater that wouldn't compete with the smaller community theaters.

[Justnslcsugarhood.]

Originally Posted by urbanboy

Holy heck! Lightning blasts Angel Moroni at new temple
The Salt Lake Tribune





http://www.sltrib.com/ci_12595131?source=most_viewed

oh, no, the only piece of art in the whole city! that sucks for South Jordan :/

[Justnslcsugarhood.]

So, any news on Trolley

[SLC Projects]

Originally Posted by Justnslcsugarhood.

oh, no, the only piece of art in the whole city! that sucks for South Jordan :/

That's not the only piece of art in South Jordan. After all there are TWO temples in the city.

[SLC Projects]

St. Regis resort comes to Deer Valley
http://www.ksl.com/index.php?nid=148&sid=6916041

PARK CITY -- From New York to Beijing to Bora Bora, St. Regis resorts are considered top-quality, luxury accommodations. The company's newest location is right up Parley's Canyon.
"Everything is custom-made for St. Regis. The window coverings, furnishings are designed to make the suite flow," said Stephanie Fischer, spokeswoman for St. Regis.
That gives you an idea of what the rest of the 181 rooms will look like when they're complete. Crews are working around the clock to get this new resort and open by October.
The project's developer, Stan Castleton, says besides bringing jobs to Utah, this resort will bring a level of luxury Utah has never seen.
"Every floor will have a butler to cater to the guests. Regardless of what their needs are, they'll try to deal with it," Castleton said.
There are 181 guest rooms, all for sale; 70 percent of which are already sold. The idea is the owner will allow St. Regis to rent out their rooms.
When the resort is complete, guests will enjoy one of the largest spas in the state and a funicular that will transport guests upon arrival to the upper resort levels.
A celebrity chef is also opening a restaurant here. "Our chef is Jean-Georges, a world-reknown chef, and [he] loves to ski!" Castleton said.
The price to own this luxury: The one bedroom suite costs $1.5 million; the bigger suites go up to $4 million.
If you don't have millions to buy, you can rent the rooms. During peak seasons, they go for upwards of $1,000 a night; off-season, they're around $300 a night.

[delts145]

Utah called second-best pro-business state
Report » The state's ranking varies with the survey.

http://www.sltrib.com/business/ci_12682645

Utah is the second-best state in the country in creating a pro-business climate, according to a newly released rating by a geoeconomist and corporate relocation expert...

The Pollina Report
Chicago-based geoeconomist Ronald Pollina's "Corporate top 10 Pro-Business States for 2009" are:

1. Virginia

2. Utah

3. North Carolina

4. Wyoming

5. South Carolina

6. South Dakota

7. Kansas

8. Georgia

9. Florida

10. Nebraska

.

[WeST]

I think head-to-head Utah would fair very well against at least 5 of those states when competing for jobs. A couple have some major built in advantages because of perception and location. I think Utah is doing a great job creating an environment where business we feel comfortable. I still think we could do a few more things that could make us more attractive.
1. Lower or eliminate the corporate/ business taxes
2. Continue ad campaigns that will improve the states image
3. Expand the USTAR program to create more synergy
4. Increase the number of college graduates in the state, especially in degrees centered on math, science, technology and "the creative class"

[shakman]

Originally Posted by delts145

Utah called second-best pro-business state
Report » The state's ranking varies with the survey.

http://www.sltrib.com/business/ci_12682645

Utah is the second-best state in the country in creating a pro-business climate, according to a newly released rating by a geoeconomist and corporate relocation expert...

The Pollina Report
Chicago-based geoeconomist Ronald Pollina's "Corporate top 10 Pro-Business States for 2009" are:

1. Virginia

2. Utah

3. North Carolina

4. Wyoming

5. South Carolina

6. South Dakota

7. Kansas

8. Georgia

9. Florida

10. Nebraska

.

Virginia continues to rank up there. I am actually surprised that Utah did not over take Virginia. Virginia took a bit of a beating during this economic downturn.

Congradulations to Utah.

[delts145]

Seven businesses set to open in South Jordan's Daybreak community



Commerce » SoDa Row Village Center will feature a cafe, barbershop, children's clothing.

By Paul Beebe
The Salt Lake Tribune

Inhabitants of the Daybreak planned community in South Jordan, now numbering 8,000 people, are finally getting some commercial and retail company.

They'll be served by seven businesses, including a bank, a gym and a couple of eating establishments, set to open in the new SoDa Row Village Center on Daybreak Parkway, Scott Schwendiman, commercial development manager for Kennecott Land, said Friday.

The businesses are ...

» Black Diamond Gymnastics and Sports Center. The Park City-based company will occupy nearly 17,000 square feet of space.

Black Diamond plans a soft opening in mid-August, about a month before the center formally opens Sept. 19.

» San Gelato Cafe. The cafe will serve Italian ice cream, panini, sorbets and other food items in a 2,000-square-foot space. San Gelato will open sometime between Sept. 1 and Sept. 15.

» Tio's Mexican Restaurant. The 2,600-square-foot restaurant will serve lunch and dinner. It, too, will open after Sept. 1.

» Oopsie Daily. The children's store will sell clothes, shoes, furniture and gifts. It will occupy 2,200 square feet, with a soft opening in early September.

» Classic Cleaners. The 900-square-foot clothes cleaner will provide pickup and drop-off service. Its opening is planned for sometime between Sept.1 and Sept. 15.

» Guy's Barbershop. The one-chair shop will offer haircuts and straight razor shaves in a 228-square-foot space. Guy's will open in August.

»Zions Bank. The Zions branch office will occupy a building adjacent to SoDa Row. No opening date was announced.

SoDa Row consists of 68,000 square feet of space in five buildings. More tenants are expected to be announced in coming weeks.

"This group represents 37 percent of the [leasable] space. If everything were to happen that I know of today, we will be at 72 percent in the next four to six weeks," Schwendiman said.

Kennecott Land plans to build a 50,000-square-foot office building at the center in one or two years. The center also has retail pads and sites that could add another 20,000 to 50,000 square feet in the future.

About 2,000 houses in Daybreak are occupied. Kennecott Land expects to build 20,000 residences with a population of 45,000 people.

"The long-term plans for more homes and businesses make it the perfect site for us," said Brady Tanner, who is opening his third Classic Cleaners.

SoDa Row Shops Revealed


Daybreak Man Reporting: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgu...%3Den%26sa%3DG

Daybreak is about to become the home to seven new locally-owned and operated businesses. Kennecott Land officially announced the tenants for the new SoDa Row mixed use commericial section of Daybreak. Daybreak residents will now have the chance to walk or ride a short distance to go out to eat, get a haircut, deposit a check, or take the kids to dance or karate lessons. Here is a list of the latest tentants to be contracted for SoDa Row:

Grab a meal

Tio’s Mexican Restaurant - As a decent Mexican resteraunt is not located even close to Daybreak, this place will be a welcome addition. Tio’s is a local Mexican restaurant with one other location currently open in Murray. I asked around about the place in Murray and heard good reviews consisting of authentic food and good service.

San Gelato Café - Gelato in Italian literally means "frozen" and that is what this cafe will mainly serve - Italian icecream. 36 different flavors to be exact. Not in the mood for dessert? Try the a panini, an italian sandwich which has become immensly popular here in America. Pizza, salads, soups, and wraps will also be served at this cafe. Learn more at www.sangelatocafe.com

Flips, Dance, and so much more

Black Diamond Gymnastics - Black Diamond is a Park City based business that will open a second location in Daybreak. It provides gymnastics, dance, cheer and martial arts. However, the list of activities at this new state of the art facility will be wide ranging. Right Star Academy, an academic preschool and tutoring program, will be integrated into the facility as well. Black Diamond offers unique services. An example? How about the Big Air program. The Big Air program is especially for skiers, boarders, skaters, etc. The curriculum focuses on trampoline and tumbling instruction designed to enhance core strength, air awareness and self-confidence while learning the proper technique of flipping and twisting. Learn more at www.blackdiamondgym.com

Get a Haircut

Guy's Barbershop - A truly local establishment where local owner, Guy Dumas, will provide the traditional hair cutting services as a one-man show. Want to know about the neighborhood and the locals? I would ask him. As part of his job description, he will be more knowledgable about individual residents than anyone.

Kids and Clothes

Oopsie Daisy will be the new children's botique in Daybreak. It will offer distinctive children’s clothes, shoes, gifts and furniture. Not a bad idea considering Daybreak is crawling with youngsters.

The Cleaners

Classic Cleaners is an environmentally aware business with two other locations in the valley. I've personally heard good reviews about the other locations. Usually people mention a quick turn around time and friendly service.

Stash the Cash

Zions Bank - Founded in 1873 in Utah, this bank has been a major entity in Utah business from the beginning. Now a local branch will be located in SoDa Row for the convenience of residents.

Author: Daybreak Man at 2:54 PM

TRAX lightrail, under construction


Mid-Jodan TRAX Reaches Milestone

The Utah Transit Authority recently announced that the Mid-Jordan TRAX line is now approximatly 40% complete. This milestone was reached this past May as freight trains start using the new TRAX line for deliveries to local businesses. While the trains are using the new line, UTA will be cutting out the old freight line and realigning it to be parallel with the new TRAX line. Once the Mid-Jordan line is finished in late 2011, two lines will be used by TRAX during the day and by the freight trains at night.

When completed, the project will interline with the Sandy/Salt Lake TRAX Line with direct service to the Salt Lake Central Station in downtown Salt Lake City, where it will connect with UTA’s FrontRunner commuter rail system and bus service.

[MetroFanatic]

Originally Posted by delts145

TRAX lightrail, under construction


Mid-Jodan TRAX Reaches Milestone

The Utah Transit Authority recently announced that the Mid-Jordan TRAX line is now approximatly 40% complete. This milestone was reached this past May as freight trains start using the new TRAX line for deliveries to local businesses. While the trains are using the new line, UTA will be cutting out the old freight line and realigning it to be parallel with the new TRAX line. Once the Mid-Jordan line is finished in late 2011, two lines will be used by TRAX during the day and by the freight trains at night.

When completed, the project will interline with the Sandy/Salt Lake TRAX Line with direct service to the Salt Lake Central Station in downtown Salt Lake City, where it will connect with UTA’s FrontRunner commuter rail system and bus service.

I live across the street from houses whose backyards face the Old Bingham portion of the mid-jordan line. They have a completed track that I hear freight trains using once or twice every other night and the original rail was torn up about two weeks ago. They are now leveling dirt for the second rail as well as putting in piping to direct water when it rains. Where the rails are going used to be a gully, but they basically leveled it off and now have rain water directed towards a man-made channel that runs alongside the brick wall separating the backyards.

I could probably get out and take some pictures today.

[WeST]

This is the development that is proposed/under construction in Herriman. The Herriman Towne Center has some really good fundamentals regarding multiple use and density, but falls flat on road connections and how the development interfaces with the other land/communities. Can someone help me understand why cities either don't get it or bend to developers on the issue of number of connections, through streets and efficiency? This development is real good, but I think could be great if they had more connections and didn't have streets meander. I am not an advocate for a perfect grid of straight streets, but when you have to drive a couple of miles to get around a development that is acts as an island in a city, I get frustrated.

Do city planners not get it? Are they ignored? Do citizens demand these streets because they believe it is safer for their children? Big mean developers? Loch Ness?

[StevenF]

how is that a city center? Its a maze of streets. It only looks cool from an areal view which is what they were probably thinking when they designed it. Don't worry when Herriman reaches 40,000 people or more they will regret doing it that way. Just look at Jordan landing and its streets which were poorly planed for high traffic volumes.

[cololi]

Originally Posted by WeST

Do city planners not get it? Are they ignored? Do citizens demand these streets because they believe it is safer for their children? Big mean developers? Loch Ness?

Most City planners get it. Most city planners are ignored. People actually do think that those types of neighborhoods are safer. Cities in Utah believe any development is good development. developers take advantage of cities because few cities have a backbone and few cities are willing to say no up front, and then when things start to go bad (listening Draper and Tooele) they try to deny approvals after the fact. Plus they fail to do any real long range planning and actually stick to it. Loch ness, I don't know.

I am as big of a proponent of connections as anybody. They are the single biggest thing that improves the walkability of a neighborhood.

[SLCforme]

I think its Nessi. She is an anti-urban tyrant!

[WeST]

I appreciate your comments (I think Nessi is worth investigating further), I have many times wondered what happens that allows such unfortunate developments. Cololi, I am still unclear as to the developers motivation. Are you saying that they are developing what they think buyers demand? I have trouble seeing what reason they would resist more connections and functional streets. I suppose this would increase traffic thorough their development. If you have any insight I would appreciate it.

[Dallas Snob]

Originally Posted by WeST

I appreciate your comments (I think Nessi is worth investigating further), I have many times wondered what happens that allows such unfortunate developments. Cololi, I am still unclear as to the developers motivation. Are you saying that they are developing what they think buyers demand? I have trouble seeing what reason they would resist more connections and functional streets. I suppose this would increase traffic thorough their development. If you have any insight I would appreciate it.

I had been told (not necessarily authoritatively) that development occurs like this for two reasons:

#1) City "Fathers" (no offense to the women in the audience) do not understand how to effectively write zoning.

#2) Meandering roads have less to do with traffic flow than with maximizing the number of commercial and residential space so that the developer can realize a higher return on their investment.

I had always supposed (innocently) that there must be a balancing act between city planners and developers. If you zone to exactly, then land values may rise too high for a developer to make a return on. If you allow greater flexibility with zoning, developers can make it work.

Not saying any of this is true, just waht I heard.

[SLCdave]

If you look at the Master Plan for Herriman it actually ties in very well.
Look on their website under city maps/2020 plan Herriman.org. It ties in with Daybreak at almost every street.
They are creating more thru streets by doing this if you look at the whole picture. There are walking trails every where, it will have alot of office space mixed use, condos, apartments Trax and Moutain View Corridor. Look at the whole picture and then make a judgement. They call it a town center for a reason. They are not building it to compete with Downtown SLC. They are building it to keep people from having to get in their cars and drive 3 miles to Riverton to shop. Also remember Herriman is in the corner of the valley. The transportation issues West Jordan have are totally different than that of Herrimans