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How's the ground level experience in downtown Hull? It's looking kinda grim from that aerial.
It's brutal around most of Place du Portage, but there are some nice spots, like the Quartier du Musée (Canadien de l'Histoire) and the Alexandra Bridge to the ByWard Market, Le Vieux Hull between Place du Portage and Terraces de la Chaudière, along the Ruisseau de la Brasserie. Zibi will be a pedestrian friendly area as well as it gets developed.

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https://www.ledroit.com/actualites/le-vieux-hull-tres-achalande-b7026dc312eaa82cf1353dff17288b59

Ruisseau de la Basserie:


https://www.gatineau.ca/portail/default....ommuniques/communique_2015&id=-952427329
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 21, 2020, 1:05 PM
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Old Posted Oct 21, 2020, 1:13 PM
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^never seen that building before. Quite interesting.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 21, 2020, 1:14 PM
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^never seen that building before. Quite interesting.
The Canadian Museum of History (formerly known as the Canadian Museum of Civilization)? I'm surprised. It's featured quite prominently in a good number of Ottawa and Hull skyline shots.

On the right is the actual museum and on the left is an associated office building. Designed by Douglas Cardinal in the 80s. A P.E. Trudeau project completed by Mulroney.
     
     
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^never seen that building before. Quite interesting.

Really? Outside of the buildings on Parliament Hill that's probably the most famous structure in the city. The Canadian Museum of History. I've never seen a picture from that angle though and it looks great. One day I will visit it.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 21, 2020, 1:36 PM
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Really? Outside of the buildings on Parliament Hill that's probably the most famous structure in the city. The Canadian Museum of History. I've never seen a picture from that angle though and it looks great. One day I will visit it.
I really don’t know Ottawa that well. Only went twice, once I visited Parliament Hill and the Byward Market area, the other I rode the Confederation and Trillium lines.
     
     
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Old Posted Oct 21, 2020, 3:23 PM
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I love this view of Ottawa.
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I really don’t know Ottawa that well. Only went twice, once I visited Parliament Hill and the Byward Market area, the other I rode the Confederation and Trillium lines.
The museum across the river is actually quite visible from Parliament Hill and much of the area of Ottawa between there and the market, but fair enough!
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It's brutal around most of Place du Portage, l]
I actually don't find the area around Portage that bad, even if it's sterile and brutalist.

Areas just to the north of there like Eddy are a lot worse, and resemble a down-on-its luck mill town in New England or something.

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.4278935,-...itch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192
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Old Posted Oct 21, 2020, 3:57 PM
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I actually don't find the area around Portage that bad, even if it's sterile and brutalist.

Areas just to the north of there like Eddy are a lot worse, and resemble a down-on-its luck mill town in New England or something.

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.4278935,-...itch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i16384!8i8192
The Vieux Hull face of PdP is not bad. Street level retail, plazas and public art...

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.4264067,...s9-rGUkpJqD5OjJiUBREw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Rue Victoria is not terrible either, with an imposing and well executed butalist design.

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.4286427,...CS-fZ-PVwuJfBhesRxTmA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

The rest is not good.

Hôtel-de-Ville

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.4273428,...xwQe-gNWrykgsVpgfjjVQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Maisonneuve

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.4274141,...W-bzBWyqjiy0ew6oGZmmw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Place d'Acceuil

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.4262747,...LLg!2e0!5s20160601T000000!7i13312!8i6656

Laurier

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.4248415,...UJPMK8pLKv7k0g4FKTrNA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.4247908,...TGcBF8w-HRAT5dV8VGMJA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Publicly accessible terraces around the building are interesting, but need a lot of work to make them true people places.
     
     
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The Vieux Hull face of PdP is not bad. Street level retail, plazas and public art...

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.4264067,...s9-rGUkpJqD5OjJiUBREw!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

Rue Victoria is not terrible either, with an imposing and well executed butalist design.

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.4286427,...CS-fZ-PVwuJfBhesRxTmA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

The rest is not good.

Hôtel-de-Ville

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.4273428,...xwQe-gNWrykgsVpgfjjVQ!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Maisonneuve

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.4274141,...W-bzBWyqjiy0ew6oGZmmw!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Place d'Acceuil

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.4262747,...LLg!2e0!5s20160601T000000!7i13312!8i6656

Laurier

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.4248415,...UJPMK8pLKv7k0g4FKTrNA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

https://www.google.com/maps/@45.4247908,...TGcBF8w-HRAT5dV8VGMJA!2e0!7i16384!8i8192

Publicly accessible terraces around the building are interesting, but need a lot of work to make them true people places.
Every single one of those is still a lot better than Eddy IMO!
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Old Posted Oct 21, 2020, 4:09 PM
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Every single one of those is still a lot better than Eddy IMO!
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To each their own I guess
I will grant you that Eddy is definitely more salvageable, and has the potential to become a nice, human-scaled urban neighbourhood street.

But not sure if I will see that in my lifetime, and I might have 50 years left to go if I am lucky!
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First and only time I've been to that museum was in 2012 and it's a really nice spot, inside and out. Definitely great views of the Parliament across the river. When I crossed the bridge from Ottawa to Gatineau both my gf and I were surprised by how different the surroundings felt immediately once you got off the bridge. Yes, different province (and culture), but same region. We weren't expecting that. We didn't explore Gatineau at all other than a couple of blocks around the museum but it was enough to be eye opening. We had spent the previous day around U of Ottawa as we stayed in a residence doubling as a hotel in the summer.

In contrast, when I crossed the river from Louisville, KY to the IN side and back the next day last November, it was very much seamless it seemed. Just like Cincinnati, OH to Covington, KY and numerous other examples.
     
     
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First and only time I've been to that museum was in 2012 and it's a really nice spot, inside and out. Definitely great views of the Parliament across the river. When I crossed the bridge from Ottawa to Gatineau both my gf and I were surprised by how different the surroundings felt immediately once you got off the bridge. Yes, different province (and culture), but same region. We weren't expecting that. We didn't explore Gatineau at all other than a couple of blocks around the museum but it was enough to be eye opening. We had spent the previous day around U of Ottawa as we stayed in a residence doubling as a hotel in the summer.

In contrast, when I crossed the river from Louisville, KY to the IN side and back the next day last November, it was very much seamless it seemed. Just like Cincinnati, OH to Covington, KY and numerous other examples.
It's funny to hear that because as someone who lives in Montreal, I've always thought Gatineau looked very similar to equivalent parts of Ottawa. It has a distinct Outaouais/Ottawa Valley kind of architecture that isn't found elsewhere in Quebec. The main visual difference comes from the infrastructure, since these standards vary quite a bit between Quebec and Ontario. Signage, traffic lights, sidewalks, lampposts, road markings – they're all different.

I find the difference between US states is often more subtle than the difference between Canadian provinces, although a similar experience to the Quebec/Ontario divide might be Vermont/New Hampshire, because they have fairly different standards in terms of building regulations, urban planning and infrastructure (eg very few strip malls, big box stores or billboards in Vermont, but lots in New Hampshire).
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It's funny to hear that because as someone who lives in Montreal, I've always thought Gatineau looked very similar to equivalent parts of Ottawa. It has a distinct Outaouais/Ottawa Valley kind of architecture that isn't found elsewhere in Quebec. The main visual difference comes from the infrastructure, since these standards vary quite a bit between Quebec and Ontario. Signage, traffic lights, sidewalks, lampposts, road markings – they're all different.
I don't find most of Gatineau looks like Ottawa. The older dumpy parts as I said are like a hard-luck NE US mill town. Ottawa only has some very small pockets that look like that: Vanier and Hintonburg/Mechanicsville.

Even our nicer older housing is somewhat different from what you see in Ottawa:

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.4304171,-...itch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656

And this, for example, could be Granby or St-Jérôme:

https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.4367388,-...Sx4wtmZZlH4auoluW2KoA!2e0!7i13312!8i6656

This could be St-Hubert or Val-Bélair (Quebec City):
https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.4182596,-...itch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656

St-Bruno:
https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.4888025,-...itch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656

Brossard:
https://www.google.ca/maps/@45.4743293,-...itch%3D0%26thumbfov%3D100!7i13312!8i6656
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