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We vs us · #1 Posted **Mar 5, 2022, 5:29 AM**

It's going to be memorable, that's for sure. I can't think of a similarly sized building in North America that is as bizarre as this one is. It'll for sure be our signature tower . . . though it remains to be seen if it's something we'll want to be remembered for.

ahealy · #2 Posted **Mar 5, 2022, 1:50 PM**

Agree with all of ya's! I do really wish it was located off 6th or something. Having a centralized signature supertall helps balance things out....and I am not crazy about rainey street.

Mopacs · #3 Posted **Mar 5, 2022, 4:32 PM**

Would be nice if the tower portion looked a little more seamless like the similarly-designed Rainier Square tower in Seattle.

https://images4.loopnet.com/d2/22jYq...A/document.pdf

kingkirbythe.... · #4 Posted **Mar 5, 2022, 8:05 PM**

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Would be nice if the tower portion looked a little more seamless like the similarly-designed Rainier Square tower in Seattle.

https://images4.loopnet.com/d2/22jYq...A/document.pdf

Yeah. This one is a nicer, sleeker building.

gabetx · #5 Posted **Mar 5, 2022, 11:07 PM**

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Yeah. This one is a nicer, sleeker building.

Overall, I'd rather have ours. It is cool at the base but a basic box up top. We have to many basic boxes already and more being constructed as it is.

papertowelroll · #6 Posted **Mar 6, 2022, 4:50 AM**

First time I've ever seen that Seattle tower and I'm gonna have to give a big "no thanks" on that one. Maybe I'm a minority but I like the look of 98 RR. I like how it mirrors the Independent, which I also quite like.

Echostatic · #7 Posted **Mar 5, 2022, 5:34 PM**

I think 98 looks a lot better than Rainier Square.

migol24 · #8 Posted **Mar 6, 2022, 6:33 AM**

Nah, you're not alone. I think the building is gonna look a lot nicer than the renderings show. Not many people were a fan of the Google tower based on the renderings but it's mostly unanimous now how much everyone likes it.

AusTex · #9 Posted **Mar 6, 2022, 4:14 PM**

I like 98 RR much better. More texture; not another blue box; and it has a crown, albeit an odd one.

Give us grand renderings. Then Build this Icon.

ahealy · #10 Posted **Mar 6, 2022, 6:20 PM**

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I like 98 RR much better. More texture; not another blue box; and it has a crown, albeit an odd one.

Give us grand renderings. Then Build this Icon.

Agreed. Just want a frosted strip of light on the crown or something. That straight line on the current renders is gonna look so sick when it's all done.

clubtokyo · #11 Posted **Mar 11, 2022, 10:31 PM**

Omg this is exciting! I personally like this tower and it will be a game changer for our city in height alone!

SproutingTowers · #12 Posted **Mar 12, 2022, 2:37 PM**

New Wall

H2O · #13 Posted **Mar 12, 2022, 2:41 PM**

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New Wall

Why aren't they armoring the toe of the slope like at the library? All of that loose soil is going to continue to erode, polluting the creek and undermining that new wall!

AusTex · #14 Posted **Mar 12, 2022, 7:23 PM**

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Why aren't they armoring the toe of the slope like at the library? All of that loose soil is going to continue to erode, polluting the creek and undermining that new wall!

My first impression too. The wall beneath the twin trees already looks precarious. A couple of good rain events and the toe of that bank is in grave danger of disappearing; then the wall. Knowing how Shoal Creek floods after 30 years in Austin, this just does not look like a long term solution. Perhaps the city has a plan to come back and reinforce the bottom. I certainly hope so.

Lobotomizer · #15 Posted **Mar 12, 2022, 7:45 PM**

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My first impression too. The wall beneath the twin trees already looks precarious. A couple of good rain events and the toe of that bank is in grave danger of disappearing; then the wall. Knowing how Shoal Creek floods after 30 years in Austin, this just does not look like a long term solution. Perhaps the city has a plan to come back and reinforce the bottom. I certainly hope so.

This is along Waller Creek, not Shoal Creek.

A flood control tunnel was built to divert flood waters along Waller Creek, so flooding should not be an issue in this area.

With that said, this wall is not the final changes coming to the creek. There are some pretty grand plans for Waller Creek.
https://www.austintexas.gov/departme...ict-and-tunnel

https://waterloogreenway.org/

AusTex · #16 Posted **Mar 13, 2022, 1:24 AM**

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This is along Waller Creek, not Shoal Creek.

A flood control tunnel was built to divert flood waters along Waller Creek, so flooding should not be an issue in this area.

With that said, this wall is not the final changes coming to the creek. There are some pretty grand plans for Waller Creek.
https://www.austintexas.gov/departme...ict-and-tunnel

https://waterloogreenway.org/

Thanks for the correction!

The tunnel project will help significantly; though the "angle of repose" for this bank is less steep. I hope these grand plans address this issue.

We vs us · #17 Posted **Mar 13, 2022, 4:38 PM**

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Interesting. Others on the site have the Ritz brand headed for the the super tall at 98 Red River. With the ground breaking for the super tall scheduled for April things should become clearer as to which brand will be part of that development.

I’m one of those guys, and want to stress that it’s only a rumor. Not confirmed.

However, 98 RR does have a much more visible and confirmed luxury hotel component … and it’s clearly moving forward in ways 90 RR still isn’t. I guess I wouldn’t be surprised to see a Ritz as part of our super tall. TBH, what else COULD it be?

ATX2030 · #18 Posted **Mar 13, 2022, 5:21 PM**

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I’m one of those guys, and want to stress that it’s only a rumor. Not confirmed.

However, 98 RR does have a much more visible and confirmed luxury hotel component … and it’s clearly moving forward in ways 90 RR still isn’t. I guess I wouldn’t be surprised to see a Ritz as part of our super tall. TBH, what else COULD it be?

If 80 RR is the Ritz what brand might we see occupy 98RR? Doubtful it would be the Waldorf Astoria since Hilton's Conrad brand is headed for 307 E. 2nd St. Perhaps St. Regis?

https://srresidenceschicago.com/?gcl...hoC4GsQAvD_BwE

ILUVSAT · #19 Posted **Mar 13, 2022, 9:04 PM**

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...Doubtful it would be the Waldorf Astoria since Hilton's Conrad brand is headed for 307 E. 2nd...

Not that it will be...but, just because a Conrad is going in up the street does not preclude Hilton's top brand from establishing itself in Texas' tallest tower.

We vs us · #20 Posted **Mar 14, 2022, 3:40 AM**

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If 80 RR is the Ritz what brand might we see occupy 98RR? Doubtful it would be the Waldorf Astoria since Hilton's Conrad brand is headed for 307 E. 2nd St. Perhaps St. Regis?

https://srresidenceschicago.com/?gcl...hoC4GsQAvD_BwE

If you stop to think about it, we'll have the Conrad on 2nd St., an unnamed luxury hotel at RR and Cesar Chavez, and the Ritz at the Travis #2. Three luxury brands all within a couple of blocks of one another. Not to mention our venerable Four Seasons just down CC a ways. All the sudden, in the span of a couple of years, we'll deliver three luxury properties all clustered around the same area of town. I'm tellin' ya, in a lot of ways, Rainey/Convention Center is the new center of the city.