HomeDiagramsDatabaseMapsForum About
     

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Global Projects & Construction > Skyscraper & Highrise Construction


Hudson Tower in the SkyscraperPage Database

Building Data Page   • Comparison Diagram   • Detroit Skyscraper Diagram

Map Location

Reply

 
Thread Tools Display Modes
     
     
  #1501  
Old Posted Apr 18, 2024, 9:51 PM
Velvet_Highground Velvet_Highground is offline
Doc Love 3.0
 
Join Date: Mar 2022
Location: Metropolitan Detroit
Posts: 421
I loved the quote about the World Trade Center being hated until it was gone. The Ren Cen is off centered covers a beautiful part of the skyline from traditional viewing spaces like Bell Isle and is cut off from downtown. That’s after the cooling towers Ford built were removed.

Well we have what we have and that includes the Greektown Casino Tower, the BCBS Tower & Lafayette & Elmwood Parks. The eastern skyline is a mess. I’m interested what could be done with 375 removed along with the Jefferson interchange.

A more pedestrian friendly Jefferson, a renovated Hart Plaza (to some extent) a more intuitive pedestrian experience by the Marriott western entrance, a stair down by the parking garage next to the port. Woodbridge has an opportunity to return to its original grid just like second in between Huntington & the newly planned hotel.

There is an opportunity to tackle the demolished east riverfront & the opening up space provided by 375. I have a love hate relationship with the Ren Cen but I don’t want to see it go.

I try not to look at HF II to badly as before the Ren Cen he proposed a heavy rail network for the city and some inner burbs. He had the money to build a giant office complex but not a city wide rail network that would underperform financially.

If only Ford knew a President Ford was to be in power soon and give the region the money it needed to say complete such a plan. A Ren Cen less Detroit with mass transit may have kept the inner city alive.

https://detroitography.com/2014/02/0...plan-map-1970/

Quote:
As of Monday, Renaissance Center's vacancy rate was 18% vacant at Tower 100, 66% vacant at Tower 200 and less than 1% vacant in Tower 400, according to CoStar. The report notes no availability in Tower 300 where GM occupies about 614,000 square feet of office space.
https://www.detroitnews.com/restrict...CPROADBLOCKDH#

As of 2022 half of downtown office vacancy was in Tower 200. 2,500 workers are to be moved from Tower 300 which GM fully occupies. To further muddy the waters “guru of troubled building turnarounds” some media quote not mine purchased the side towers in January. 500 is fully occupied by BCBS with a total of 19% vacancy sounds like 600 is ~60% occupied. I’m a little put off by a total vacancy for both when one is fully occupied it seems strange but it could be a turn of phrase for his whole investment.

Friedman buys two Detroit towers amid downturn
Downtown Detroit offices have 19% vacancy rate

Quote:
Michigan-based real estate firm Friedman Real Estate bought two towers of downtown Detroit’s iconic Renaissance Center.

The company, headquartered in Farmington Hills, acquired for an undisclosed sum the 500 and 600 towers from a New Jersey utility company, with plans to maintain them as office spaces, the Detroit Free Press reported.

The two towers, standing at 21 stories each, are part of the RenCen complex, which originally opened in 1977 with four 39-story office towers surrounding a central 73-story hotel (now a Marriott).

The remaining five towers are owned by General Motors, which is headquartered in the center.

Tower 500 is fully occupied by Blue Cross Blue Shield of Michigan, while Tower 600 is mostly vacant and available for leasing.

According to Jared Friedman, executive managing director of Friedman Real Estate, both towers offer Class A- office space, and each tower has over 300,000 square feet and has gone through renovations in 2011.

Friedman said he’s confident in the Detroit office market, but his firm faces the challenge of filling the vacant Tower 600 in a post-pandemic world.

The downtown Detroit office market has had a rise in vacancies and a decline in leasing prices, reflecting broader trends seen nationally. The vacancy rate reached 19 percent in the third quarter, up from about 14 percent a year earlier, with an average asking lease price of $23.28 per square foot gross, down 4 percent, the outlet reported, citing data from CBRE.

Companies, influenced by remote and hybrid work policies, have downsized office spaces, resulting in increased availability and bargaining power for tenants.

Looking ahead, the completion of Dan Gilbert’s Hudson’s site office building in 2024 is expected to introduce an additional 400,000 square feet of new Class A office space to the market.
__________________
Sixto Rodriguez - Cold Fact - Crucify your Mind
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KhMxmubp-5Q

Gil Scott Heron - We almost lost Detroit - 1966 Fermi 1
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cpNUqNe0U5g
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #1502  
Old Posted Apr 18, 2024, 9:54 PM
Velvet_Highground Velvet_Highground is offline
Doc Love 3.0
 
Join Date: Mar 2022
Location: Metropolitan Detroit
Posts: 421
Delete
__________________
Sixto Rodriguez - Cold Fact - Crucify your Mind
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=KhMxmubp-5Q

Gil Scott Heron - We almost lost Detroit - 1966 Fermi 1
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=cpNUqNe0U5g
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #1503  
Old Posted Apr 19, 2024, 10:40 AM
pianowizard pianowizard is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: SE Michigan, US
Posts: 982
Dan Gilbert confirms ultraluxury EDITION Hotel, condos for Detroit Hudson's tower

Quote:
While the announcement didn't give asking prices for the one- to four-bedroom condos, the Residences at the Detroit EDITION marketing website shows five general price point ranges:

$550,000 to $750,000
$750,000 to $999,999
$1 million to $2 million
$2 million to $3 million
$3 million and beyond

Last edited by pianowizard; Apr 19, 2024 at 10:52 AM.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #1504  
Old Posted Apr 19, 2024, 6:56 PM
animatedmartian's Avatar
animatedmartian animatedmartian is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 2,999
Several years ago, those price points would have been the most expensive in the city.

In 2024, there's at least 3 pre-war mansions in the city for sale at $3 million+. Suburb-wise, those prices are about comparable to new construction in the more affluent suburbs, like Birmingham and Bloomfield Hills. Still some estates that are more expensive.

So... I think the units will actually get decently filled.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #1505  
Old Posted Apr 26, 2024, 9:59 PM
animatedmartian's Avatar
animatedmartian animatedmartian is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 2,999
4/25/2024.

Reply With Quote
     
     
  #1506  
Old Posted May 2, 2024, 2:43 AM
pianowizard pianowizard is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: SE Michigan, US
Posts: 982
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #1507  
Old Posted May 2, 2024, 1:39 PM
Bob Bonner Bob Bonner is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2024
Posts: 2
I hope that there will be permanent crown illumination included for the eventual grand opening. This important structure needs to have a “highlight”!
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #1508  
Old Posted May 5, 2024, 5:57 PM
pianowizard pianowizard is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: SE Michigan, US
Posts: 982
Today I walked by the site. The Block looked almost ready to open:



I wanted to get closer but the sidewalk was completely sealed off.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #1509  
Old Posted May 9, 2024, 4:55 PM
pianowizard pianowizard is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: SE Michigan, US
Posts: 982
The Hudson Tower has restored balance to the skyline, 47 years after the RenCen caused a severe imbalance:


Source: https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid...61770026413625
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #1510  
Old Posted May 9, 2024, 5:01 PM
jackster99 jackster99 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Boise, Idaho
Posts: 293
^WOW, that is a great shot. New desktop background
__________________
"Some ideas are so stupid that only intellectuals believe them"-George Orwell
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #1511  
Old Posted May 9, 2024, 5:29 PM
homebucket homebucket is online now
你的媽媽
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Location: The Bay
Posts: 9,716
Looking good!
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #1512  
Old Posted May 21, 2024, 7:23 PM
pianowizard pianowizard is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: SE Michigan, US
Posts: 982
Wow, Detroit looks quite dense from this perspective: the 22nd floor of the Fisher Building.


Source: https://www.facebook.com/photo/?fbid...83989505255912
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #1513  
Old Posted May 22, 2024, 1:13 PM
DieselXL DieselXL is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Aug 2021
Location: Windsor Ontario
Posts: 209
Did the Fisher Building tour about a month and a half ago. Beautiful building. Upper floors definitely need some TLC but still impressive.
Its not a view we see to often online.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #1514  
Old Posted May 25, 2024, 12:36 AM
NYguy's Avatar
NYguy NYguy is offline
New Yorker for life
 
Join Date: Jul 2001
Location: Borough of Jersey
Posts: 52,964
__________________
NEW YORK is Back!

“Office buildings are our factories – whether for tech, creative or traditional industries we must continue to grow our modern factories to create new jobs,” said United States Senator Chuck Schumer.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #1515  
Old Posted May 25, 2024, 4:10 PM
pianowizard pianowizard is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: SE Michigan, US
Posts: 982
This article is 1 month old but contains a good photo:

https://www.crainsdetroit.com/real-e...detroit-condos

"Condo units — slated for closings in late 2026 — will be priced starting at about $550,000 and are expected to top out around $3 million..."

"The overall condo market in Detroit remains oversaturated with more than eight months of supply on the market, but sales in the price range of $300,000-$500,000 have been a bright spot and inventory within that segment is much tighter, per The Loft Warehouse report."
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #1516  
Old Posted May 28, 2024, 6:17 AM
BVictor1's Avatar
BVictor1 BVictor1 is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Chicago
Posts: 10,467
05.22.24






__________________
titanic1
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #1517  
Old Posted Jun 3, 2024, 3:53 PM
pianowizard pianowizard is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: SE Michigan, US
Posts: 982
Some photos I took yesterday:









Reply With Quote
     
     
  #1518  
Old Posted Jun 3, 2024, 5:47 PM
subterranean subterranean is online now
Registered Ugly
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Portland
Posts: 3,686
I love this project, but I've got to say, it's really highlighted for me how hulking One Campus Martius really is. It's got to be more than 3 times the square footage of this tower.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #1519  
Old Posted Jun 3, 2024, 6:12 PM
animatedmartian's Avatar
animatedmartian animatedmartian is online now
Registered User
 
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 2,999
That ground level entrance looks 𝒻𝒶𝓃𝒸𝓎. The paper bag in the tree kind ruins it though.
Reply With Quote
     
     
  #1520  
Old Posted Jun 3, 2024, 7:50 PM
BrickellBased BrickellBased is offline
Registered User
 
Join Date: Apr 2023
Location: Miami, FL
Posts: 433
Agreed - the finishes and ground level embellishments looks beautiful.

I was excited by the renders and it looks even better in person now.

Strong turn of the century and art deco vibes here. That bronze color is *chefs kiss*.

Detroit is back baby!

Quote:
Originally Posted by pianowizard View Post
Some photos I took yesterday:



Reply With Quote
     
     
This discussion thread continues

Use the page links to the lower-right to go to the next page for additional posts
 
 
Reply

Go Back   SkyscraperPage Forum > Global Projects & Construction > Skyscraper & Highrise Construction
Forum Jump



Forum Jump


All times are GMT. The time now is 9:00 PM.

     
SkyscraperPage.com - Archive - Privacy Statement - Top

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.7
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.