YVR Airport & Sea Island Developments Discussion

[whatnext]

YVR is expecting a 50% drop in pax numbers for 2020. Construction program is on hold.

https://vancouversun.com/news/covid-19-v...cm/76ca7680-665e-4309-9ae1-d4cfec69b488/

[Canadian74]

Originally Posted by whatnext

YVR is expecting a 50% drop in pax numbers for 2020. Construction program is on hold.

https://vancouversun.com/news/covid-19-v...cm/76ca7680-665e-4309-9ae1-d4cfec69b488/

Wow..........

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by Canadian74

Wow..........

Surprised? Really?

Passenger numbers are going to be meaningless.

[Marshal]

Except that they may show how our world is knit together in terms of necessary and absolutely necessary air travel. Which airports and routes are able or needed during a world-wide shutdown. The cargo numbers will tell an equally interesting tale.

[Johnny Aussie]

YVR reduces by 50% 60% 70% 80% ?

What exactly will that tell us?

[connect2source]

Originally Posted by whatnext

YVR is expecting a 50% drop in pax numbers for 2020. Construction program is on hold.

https://vancouversun.com/news/covid-19-v...cm/76ca7680-665e-4309-9ae1-d4cfec69b488/

Amazing!! Passenger numbers to equate to pre-international terminal construction.

[Marshal]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

YVR reduces by 50% 60% 70% 80% ?

What exactly will that tell us?

Not much. But, for example, a map showing what airports are being used and by how much (like the circle-covid19 maps) across NAmerica, and the world would give a clear picture of what remains operational as opposed to what is more completely shut down. Compared to normal times, it would unmask underlying strengths within the network. Strengths meaning routes that remain more open than others, airports that are more focused upon based upon necessity or government decisions, routes that remain more essential for a variety of reasons, etc..

I don't expect to see anything like this, but it would show some interesting structural aspects usually hidded withing the whole network and system.

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by Marshal

Not much. But, for example, a map showing what airports are being used and by how much (like the circle-covid19 maps) across NAmerica, and the world would give a clear picture of what remains operational as opposed to what is more completely shut down. Compared to normal times, it would unmask underlying strengths within the network. Strengths meaning routes that remain more open than others, airports that are more focused upon based upon necessity or government decisions, routes that remain more essential for a variety of reasons, etc..

I don't expect to see anything like this, but it would show some interesting structural aspects usually hidded withing the whole network and system.

I understand... my point is schedules are changing daily whereby it’s impossible to see any patterns.

Example AC38 is about to fly MEL-YVR today (departure time is now) that’s the only Australia-YVR flight operating today. Why is that? Who knows?
There are 4 Condor 763s heading to PER to rescue stranded cruise ship passengers. That is a very specific reason. Repatriation flights are happening. So passenger numbers overall will be meaningless in 2020.

[Marshal]

I understand. Maybe what I am talking about would be an analysis over the duration of this terrible period of time - from the start to the final abatement. It is unlikely that we will ever see the numbers, but Craig Ferguson and all his counterparts are going to be keeping track of all sorts of data.

[Johnny Aussie]

Not one to post schedule changes at the moment but this is just to show what we know today changes tomorrow...

Air Canada cutting another 1000 weekly flights from its already greatly reduced schedule posted just 4 days ago... I would expect more and from Westjet too soon.

https://westernaviationnews.com/2020/03/...-schedule/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

“Air Canada’s revised domestic schedule plans 1,652 departures in April, down almost 1,000 flights from its already pared-down plan released just four days ago when the airline had hoped to fly 2,614 flights.”

[nname]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

Not one to post schedule changes at the moment but this is just to show what we know today changes tomorrow...

Air Canada cutting another 1000 weekly flights from its already greatly reduced schedule posted just 4 days ago... I would expect more and from Westjet too soon.

https://westernaviationnews.com/2020/03/...-schedule/amp/?__twitter_impression=true

“Air Canada’s revised domestic schedule plans 1,652 departures in April, down almost 1,000 flights from its already pared-down plan released just four days ago when the airline had hoped to fly 2,614 flights.”

Seems like WS is banking everything on YYC right now.

So WS is planning to have much bigger operation out of YYC compared to AC out of YYZ

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by nname

Seems like WS is banking everything on YYC right now.

So WS is planning to have much bigger operation out of YYC compared to AC out of YYZ

And flying heaps of empty planes no doubt. I also think it would actually be irresponsible of them to launch flights to Italy in 5 weeks. Who in their right mind would be planning a trip to Europe at the moment let alone Italy.
I would expect a similar draw down of flights from Westjet, this is not sustainable.

[casper]

So the airport is closing off concourses

Domestic Terminal Gates B 18-27

International Terminal Gates D 72-74

USA Terminal Gates E 88, 90-96

AB passenger screening is closed and every thing through the C entrance.

https://www.yvr.ca/en/updates/yvr-terminal-operations-update

[nname]

Now the entire A and B concourses are closed. All domestic passengers uses C concourse.

Also closed are

International Terminal Gates D 68

USA Terminal Gates E 75-76

[TheGreatestX]

AC removing YVR-NRT for April.

[YVR Bruce]

Amongst all the reductions, we must have had record heavy ANZ volume today. At least for tonnage on the runway, with 6x 773 movements..

But I'm thinking not a lot of O&D for here. I heard of Germans being repatriated to FRA, but presumably NZ'ers going the other way from Europe too.

[Johnny Aussie]

Originally Posted by YVR Bruce

Amongst all the reductions, we must have had record heavy ANZ volume today. At least for tonnage on the runway, with 6x 773 movements..

But I'm thinking not a lot of O&D for here. I heard of Germans being repatriated to FRA, but presumably NZ'ers going the other way from Europe too.

And there is another NZ 77W on its way from CHC as we speak. NZ1952 ETA is 0845 tomorrow morning.

[nname]

Originally Posted by Johnny Aussie

And there is another NZ 77W on its way from CHC as we speak. NZ1952 ETA is 0845 tomorrow morning.

Evacuation flights?

NZ1960 AKL-YVR-FRA
NZ6011 FRA-YVR-AKL

NZ1952 CHC-YVR-??? (FRA?)

And in fact the the FRA flight today have gate D71 assigned, suggests that it's also loading/unloading passengers at YVR.

[Alexcaban]

Originally Posted by nname

Evacuation flights?

NZ1960 AKL-YVR-FRA
NZ6011 FRA-YVR-AKL

NZ1952 CHC-YVR-??? (FRA?)

And in fact the the FRA flight today have gate D71 assigned, suggests that it's also loading/unloading passengers at YVR.

All Cargo, Change of crew in YVR most likely.

[thenoflyzone]

Originally Posted by Alexcaban

All Cargo, Change of crew in YVR most likely.

There are pax on board as well. LH and NZ are both operating repat flights between Germany and NZ. It will require 20 flights in total. LH is doing one stops via BKK.

https://simpleflying.com/lufthansa-airbus-a380-new-zealand/

Originally Posted by nname

And in fact the the FRA flight today have gate D71 assigned, suggests that it's also loading/unloading passengers at YVR.

It's loading/unloading crew only.

https://simpleflying.com/air-new-zealand-frankfurt/

The team consists of four pilots and 12 cabin crew operating the Auckland-Vancouver leg. In Vancouver, the airline positioned a full replacement crew to continue to Frankfurt.