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Old Posted Nov 5, 2020, 3:28 PM
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Pelaton is opening a store in half of the old J Crew space at Park Royal.

Also Polestar is opening there but their space is very small, there is no way they can display a car inside it, perhaps they will use the mall space if they plan to have a car on display.
They're also opening a stainless steel pool swimming school for toddlers:

https://www.shopparkroyal.com/store/...s-coming-soon/

And a new Shaw store.
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Old Posted Nov 8, 2020, 9:28 PM
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Homebound workers inject life into suburban malls after downtowns empty out

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As the coronavirus pandemic rages and most downtown office employees in many cities work from home at least through year-end, urban retailers’ loss is turning out to be suburban shopping centres’ gain.

For many years, downtown malls have been more profitable, attracting office-goers and tourists congregating in city centres, while suburban malls have been relegated to the role of poor relations.

The coronavirus pandemic is turning that on its head.

"A lot of people who used to commute to downtowns on a daily basis are not anymore," said Tim Sanderson, head of Canadian retail at real estate services firm JLL JLL.N in Toronto. "Where are they getting dry cleaning done, picking up dinner? ... They're doing it in their suburban shopping centre."

Traffic in Canadian suburban malls owned by Cadillac Fairview, the property unit of Ontario Teachers’ Pension Plan, is now at more than 70% of pre-pandemic levels, while less than half of shoppers have returned to its downtown malls, Executive Vice President of Operations Sal Ianoco told Reuters.

The same story reverberates around the globe.

In the UK, foot traffic was down 40% and 34.6%, respectively, in high streets and shopping centres in mid-October compared with a year earlier, while retail parks saw a decline of only 13.2% from last year, data from analytics firm Springboard showed.

While mall owners with both urban and suburban locations are expected to weather the hit from the pandemic, already-beleaguered retailers in downtown shopping centres face much bleaker prospects.

With the crucial year-end holiday shopping season looming and few shoppers expected to turn up at downtown malls, the surge in permanent store closures and bankruptcies already seen this year is likely to worsen.

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Within suburbs, outlet malls and unenclosed shopping centers - the former luring cost-conscious shoppers in uncertain economic times, and the latter seen as safer amid the coronavirus outbreak - have fared better than enclosed ones.

“Traditionally, open-air malls, especially strip malls but even outlet malls, were the poor cousins of big flagship enclosed malls,” said Karl Littler, senior vice president for public affairs at the Retail Council of Canada.

“But now, open-air malls are doing better than enclosed malls,” he said.

Ed Sonshine, chief executive of Riocan REIT REI_u.TO, Canada's second-largest property trust, said the company's suburban shopping centres - all unenclosed and most anchored by essential businesses like grocery stores - are, in many cases, doing even better than before the pandemic.

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Old Posted Nov 8, 2020, 9:47 PM
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The Camper shoe store on Robson Street is set to reopen soon. They have a letter on their door saying they are preparing to reopen, they had shut down quite a few months ago because of covid. There are dozens of boxes of shoes sitting on the floor store that were not there that long ago. Glad to see them reopen, thought we had lost them.
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Old Posted Nov 9, 2020, 2:55 PM
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The Camper shoe store on Robson Street is set to reopen soon. They have a letter on their door saying they are preparing to reopen, they had shut down quite a few months ago because of covid. There are dozens of boxes of shoes sitting on the floor store that were not there that long ago. Glad to see them reopen, thought we had lost them.
Good to hear! Hope the massive Foot Locker will help improve foot traffic too. Robson needs retail not found in Pacific Centre to improve overall traffic, here's hoping a Uniqlo flagship isn't far off.
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Old Posted Nov 10, 2020, 1:09 AM
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Btw, Zara is still in Metrotown.
Saw boards up now with the Zara logo on the same area of the mall where it was located.
But it kinda moved like next door where Tommy Hilfiger used to be but seems bigger. Doesn't say when it'll reopen, or I didn't notice any sign about the date.
Zara flagship store at Metrotown to more than double in size to 40,000 sq. ft.
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/zara...ship-expansion
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Zara flagship store at Metrotown to more than double in size to 40,000 sq. ft.
https://dailyhive.com/vancouver/zara...ship-expansion
WOW!! Looks like the ZARAs, H&Ms, Uniqlos, MUJIs of the world are become the new mall anchors, glad to see this kind of CRU consolidation happening. Moving forward, we will have far less brands and chains so these expansions will be the way to fill mall space in the future.
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Old Posted Nov 10, 2020, 10:50 PM
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Starbucks in Waterfront centre has closing permanently.
Isn't that the oldest one in this city? Well, even one in such a busy location can't survive. It really shows how badly this chain has fallen, especially at places where there are way better cafe chains.

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Starbucks just released their Q4 results.

https://stories.starbucks.com/press/...-2020-results/

Still turning a profit in spite of COVID. Doomed!
LOL.
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Starbucks just released their Q4 results.

https://stories.starbucks.com/press/...-2020-results/

Still turning a profit in spite of COVID. Doomed!
Reading between the lines of this Retail Insider article it would seem as though Sbux is doing worse in Canada than the USA, as proptionally more stores are closing here. Personally I'd say building a new business strategy based around the conditions created by a once in a blue moon pandemic is....odd.

https://www.retail-insider.com/retai...ore-locations/
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Old Posted Nov 11, 2020, 12:21 AM
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Personally I'd say building a new business strategy based around the conditions created by a once in a blue moon pandemic is....odd.
Another... GAP leaving malls:

https://fortune.com/2020/10/22/gap-b...leaving-malls/
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Reading between the lines of this Retail Insider article it would seem as though Sbux is doing worse in Canada than the USA, as proptionally more stores are closing here. Personally I'd say building a new business strategy based around the conditions created by a once in a blue moon pandemic is....odd.

https://www.retail-insider.com/retai...ore-locations/
If you read through their earnings call, they talk about how their US store portfolio was better suited for the pandemic and for the future in general with more stores in high growth areas like the suburbs and especially drive-thrus. The clustering of stores in Canadian downtowns reduced profitability, adapted worse to the pandemic, and their Canadian division is behind the game when it comes to making this transition. The moves so far have been quite successful and so they plan on accelerating that process. The store at Indigo on Robson just closed for example. Why? Well following this logic there are already four other stores within a 1-2 block radius.
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Old Posted Nov 11, 2020, 12:55 AM
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LOL
Logic and facts are Vin's enemy but he has LOLs...
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Old Posted Nov 11, 2020, 1:23 AM
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If you read through their earnings call, they talk about how their US store portfolio was better suited for the pandemic and for the future in general with more stores in high growth areas like the suburbs and especially drive-thrus. The clustering of stores in Canadian downtowns reduced profitability, adapted worse to the pandemic, and their Canadian division is behind the game when it comes to making this transition. The moves so far have been quite successful and so they plan on accelerating that process. The store at Indigo on Robson just closed for example. Why? Well following this logic there are already four other stores within a 1-2 block radius.
yeah, the Starbucks out here in Coquitlam and Surrey are always busy, the drive-thru ones always have cars. There is one in Surrey near Guildford open until 11 pm, the other ones used to stay open till 10 - 10:30 but they now close 8 - 9. They could stay open later but so far they haven't. A few months ago they were closing at 5. Hopefully better hours return.
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Old Posted Nov 11, 2020, 2:13 AM
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Reading between the lines of this Retail Insider article it would seem as though Sbux is doing worse in Canada than the USA, as proptionally more stores are closing here. Personally I'd say building a new business strategy based around the conditions created by a once in a blue moon pandemic is....odd.

https://www.retail-insider.com/retai...ore-locations/
They were already switching to the ToGo model before Covid.
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Old Posted Nov 11, 2020, 2:14 AM
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If you read through their earnings call, they talk about how their US store portfolio was better suited for the pandemic and for the future in general with more stores in high growth areas like the suburbs and especially drive-thrus. The clustering of stores in Canadian downtowns reduced profitability, adapted worse to the pandemic, and their Canadian division is behind the game when it comes to making this transition. The moves so far have been quite successful and so they plan on accelerating that process. The store at Indigo on Robson just closed for example. Why? Well following this logic there are already four other stores within a 1-2 block radius.
Their Canadian spokesperson reiterated they are sticking to downtown cores in Canada:

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Upset as neighbourhood residents may be to see their favourite drip spots go, Suppa-Clark reiterated that this part of a planned "transformation" into more convenience-led store formats, "mostly in downtown metro centres."
https://www.blogto.com/eat_drink/202...sidents-shook/
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Old Posted Nov 11, 2020, 2:43 AM
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Their Canadian spokesperson reiterated they are sticking to downtown cores in Canada:

https://www.blogto.com/eat_drink/202...sidents-shook/
That is part of the strategy for downtown cores, yes. They certainly aren't "leaving", just reducing the number of stores and opening some in new formats. I can't think of any other cafe/food service business that had as many densely-packed locations. This doesn't mean that they aren't also transforming their business through the suburbs in Canada, as per the CEO directly.
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Old Posted Nov 13, 2020, 7:50 AM
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MEXX that left Canada in 2015 is coming back to Canada, they have partnered with Walmart.

https://www.styledemocracy.com/five-...ing-to-canada/
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Old Posted Nov 13, 2020, 9:06 PM
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MEXX that left Canada in 2015 is coming back to Canada, they have partnered with Walmart.

https://www.styledemocracy.com/five-...ing-to-canada/
Great news! I loved Mexx and often went to the one on Robson back in the days. It was doing really well when it was still owned by the Dutch, but after being sold to an American company (Liz Claiborne), started to go downhill. Now it is owned by German owners I think.
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Logic and facts are Vin's enemy but he has LOLs...
Insult all you want, but keep seeing your beloved Starbucks closing one by one in the core areas, while being redelegated to the boonies.
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an A&W has opened at the YVR outlet mall, it was looking pretty busy today. Also Rossignol has opened up a store there.
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Old Posted Nov 17, 2020, 4:16 PM
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Insult all you want, but keep seeing your beloved Starbucks closing one by one in the core areas, while being redelegated to the boonies.
You’re delusional and have no source of knowledge about the company other than through Google and your fantasies. Some of us actually know what we’re talking about here.

It’s not personal. I just get frustrated when I see people peddling things I know to be entirely untrue.

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