Salt Lake MSA Development Thread - Page 74

TANGELD_SLC · #**1461** Posted **May 6, 2009, 5:19 AM**

Those are some sad-looking palm trees.

i-215 · #**1462** Posted **May 6, 2009, 6:32 AM**

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Originally Posted by Orlando

Hey ... we have an awesome Palm Tree climate. For four months of the year.

shakman · #**1463** Posted **May 6, 2009, 2:30 PM**

I would never have thought of palm trees in northern Utah. However covering them as well? Too funny...

Urban_logic · #**1464** Posted **May 6, 2009, 2:37 PM**

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"The view is simply one aspect. I would argue that it is much more important than you make it out to be."

I guess I should have been more specific - I was talking about the view of the mountains specificly. There is no possible way to build a building that isn't completely see-through (and I have yet to see one of those) without blocking the view of the mountains from one angle or another. That is what I was talking about - not the "look" of the sorounding neighborhood as a whole.

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"If you think about the great cities in the world, they tend to have certain things in common: ease of movement, great public spaces, uniqueness, etc. part of that is created by making things look interesting."

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"I look at State St around 10600 and think what a wasted opportunity to create a grand boulevard, with through lanes and local lanes separated by a tree median. Oh well, at least we can move 50,000+ cars per hour through there. It still took me ten minutes to get from the new Nordstrom Rack to the Interstate (maybe a mile?)"

You seem to have changed the subject. I was talking about 2 things - accessibility and the view of the mountains. I did not even mention the look of the area or the featrues of the area. Yes, Sandy could have made 106th South look like a better boulevard. I was talking about accessibility to the development specificly, not the look of the roads.

If you don't like the traffic, then ride mass transit. TRAX is there, FrontRunner will be shortly, there are plenty of buses. If you don't like the roads, then don't drive on them. The reason the roads are so clogged is because not as many people ride mass transit as should. If you drive, then take State Street, it never backs up through there. I always take State Street north to 90th South, then get on the freeway. I have never hit bad traffic yet and it takes me about 5 minutes.

Do you see the foundamental difference between the two areas? You have alternatives in Sandy that you don't have in the Cottonwood heights development. You have two auto access points (Wasatch and the freeway exit) and buses in Cottonwood. Sandy has alot more auto access points (7th E, State, 106th S, 90th S, 100th/98th S, 94th S, 2 freeway exits), light rail, busses, and soon commuter rail. Plus, there will soon be a TRAX extension to Draper and an interchange at 114th South, bringing the freeways exits to 3 and rail options to 3. You may not approve of Sandy, but you have to admit that it is way different from the Cottonwood Heights development as far as accessibility goes.

cololi · #**1465** Posted **May 6, 2009, 7:49 PM**

You are completely missing my point. The view is much more than just the mountains. It could be a whole lot of things, including the proposed building. I have no problem with blocking views provided what is blocking the view is at least as interesting to look at as the original view. That applies everywhere, not just to Cottonwood Heights at I-215 and 6200 South.

I agree Cottonwood Heights has far fewer connections than Sandy. Connectivity is my biggest soapbox issue, which is reflective in just about every post I make.

Not to sound anti mass tranist or anything, but it would have been incredibly diffiuclt to get the dresser that was in the back of my station wagon up the stairs to get on the train and than strap it onto my back and lug it from Main Street and 100 South to the upper avenues. But thanks for the tip on going north to 9000 South. I would have thought since I was at about 10400 South and State, it would have been pretty easy to get to freeway via 10600. Sounds pretty crazy to have to drive 14+ blocks to get to the freeway when I am only about 5 blocks away from an on ramp.

Future Mayor · #**1466** Posted **May 6, 2009, 8:14 PM**

Where is that bear or mascot of love that got introduced on one of these threads several months back? Does he need to return?

delts145 · #**1467** Posted **May 7, 2009, 1:59 AM**

Reckitt Benckiser bringing 200 jobs to Tooele County

Groundbreaking Wednesday for the Reckitt Benckiser custom-manufacturing and distribution center in Tooele. Tom Smart, Deseret News

TOOELE — Household products giant Reckitt Benckiser is coming to Utah.

The global company broke ground Wednesday on a $35 million custom-manufacturing and distribution center across the street from Miller Motorsports Park.

Construction of the 600,000-square-foot facility is scheduled to be completed during the first quarter of 2010 and is expected to bring about 200 new jobs to Utah.

Reckitt Benckiser makes Woolite, Lysol, Electrasol and other household products. The company has operations in 60 countries and sells its products in 180 nations.

The Utah center will be the distribution hub for the Pacific Northwest and western Canada.

The company decided to build in Utah after negotiations with the Governor's Office of Economic Development, the Economic Development Corporation of Utah and Tooele County.

(Tom Smart, Deseret News)

Products manufactered by Reckitt Benckiser (Tom Smart, Deseret News)

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DMTower · #**1468** Posted **May 7, 2009, 6:48 AM**

I hope the mustard isn't being manufactured in the same plant as the Lysol...

TANGELD_SLC · #**1469** Posted **May 7, 2009, 6:58 AM**

Or the Woolite with the clearasil

delts145 · #**1470** Posted **May 7, 2009, 11:45 AM**

LOL, That is a pretty funny thought. Wow, so now we're a major manufacturing and distribution headquarters for some pretty big heavy weights. Proctor & Gamble, Sephora, Reckitt Benchkiser, and a long list of others. The Wasatch Front's strategic location among a few other key factors has really started to kick some fanny over the past few years. I'm pretty positive that even though the Wasatch has been among the top in growth for many years now, it's still going to continue to break the growth predictions of the prognosticators.

A disasterous economic stew is brewing in Calif. My gut tells me we're going to see an increased flow of business relocation over the next ten years. There are several good areas in the West for manufacturing and distribution location, but The Wasatch is by far the best setup, especially when it's geographic location is brought into the picture.

delts145 · #**1471** Posted **May 7, 2009, 12:27 PM**

Retailers expand presence in Utah

http://www.deseretnews.com/article/7...e-in-Utah.html

...the relative strength of Utah's economy in comparison with other places is enticing to a retailer that wants to expand.

"When (retailers) look at where to expand, they're looking at relative strengths of markets right now," Tate said. "And Utah, we've certainly seen some impact from the overall economic climate. But if you are looking to expand, Utah does look like a relatively safe market, especially when you compare it to a Las Vegas or a Phoenix, where vacancies are higher and the housing market is worse."

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MetroFanatic · #**1472** Posted **May 7, 2009, 8:08 PM**

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Originally Posted by Future Mayor

Where is that bear or mascot of love that got introduced on one of these threads several months back? Does he need to return?

Cool Whip Man? Please! I've been dying to see Cool Whip Man!

Future Mayor · #**1473** Posted **May 7, 2009, 8:29 PM**

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Originally Posted by MetroFanatic

Cool Whip Man? Please! I've been dying to see Cool Whip Man!

That's the guy. It looks as if the discussion has steered back in the right direction so Cool Whip Man won't be needed at this time.

John Martin · #**1474** Posted **May 7, 2009, 10:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by Orlando

I agree.

shakman · #**1475** Posted **May 11, 2009, 8:42 PM**

Hey now... Do not forget about KoolAid Man.

MetroFanatic · #**1476** Posted **May 12, 2009, 6:31 AM**

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Originally Posted by shakman

Hey now... Do not forget about KoolAid Man.

Oooooh Yeah!

So... what's happening in the Salt Lake Metro as of recent?

Urban_logic · #**1477** Posted **May 12, 2009, 4:10 PM**

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Originally Posted by cololi

You are completely missing my point. The view is much more than just the mountains. It could be a whole lot of things, including the proposed building. I have no problem with blocking views provided what is blocking the view is at least as interesting to look at as the original view. That applies everywhere, not just to Cottonwood Heights at I-215 and 6200 South.

I agree Cottonwood Heights has far fewer connections than Sandy. Connectivity is my biggest soapbox issue, which is reflective in just about every post I make.

Not to sound anti mass tranist or anything, but it would have been incredibly diffiuclt to get the dresser that was in the back of my station wagon up the stairs to get on the train and than strap it onto my back and lug it from Main Street and 100 South to the upper avenues. But thanks for the tip on going north to 9000 South. I would have thought since I was at about 10400 South and State, it would have been pretty easy to get to freeway via 10600. Sounds pretty crazy to have to drive 14+ blocks to get to the freeway when I am only about 5 blocks away from an on ramp.

I completely see what your talking about with the view and agree. I thought we were talking about mountains here, but maybe I missed something. I have no idea what views (as far as the development and surrounding campus goes) will be affected. I was simply talking about how I thought that factoring the mountain views into the design would be more of an "it-would-be-nice" factor rather than a necessary one. I think every developer and concerned third party would agree that any development should work to make the surrounding area blend in with the development. We were talking about two different things here, so that's where the misunderstanding roots from.

Yes, you are right that mass-transit would have been a much worse option for you in that case. I thought you said you were going to the new Nordstrom Rack. Do they have furniture there? Most locals here in the South Valley know that it is far quicker to drive south the 126th South or north to 90th South on State Street to access I-15 than 106th. I suppose it's all the SLC people who get caught up in the traffic snarl on 106th. Now you know

There is an interchange (not just the standard on/off ramp, but a full-scale interchange) under construction at 114th South, which will really help traffic in the area. That would have only been 10 blocks away from where you were at had it been built. I'm pretty sure it opens in 2010, but don't quote me on that.

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Originally Posted by DMTower

I hope the mustard isn't being manufactured in the same plant as the Lysol...

That would just be disgusting! That's usually why I buy my groceries at Harmons, which is right next to Target. I love Target, but I feel a little queezy buying food that has been stored in proximity to chemicals, fertilizers, etc.

SLC Projects · #**1478** Posted **May 12, 2009, 4:46 PM**

So it looks like the Jordan school district will be moving their offices from Sandy to West Jordan. I was driving on redwood road and notice a coming soon sign right outside of the old shopping strip mall on the corner of 78000 South and Redwood road. ( Where the D.I. used to be. ) Right now all those store fronts sit empty. I wounder if the jordan school district plans to tear down these store fonts to build a new office building(s) or are they going to be cheap and just use the old store fonts as their new office space. I hope not. That would look stupid.
There is a Gateway Computers call center up in Magna that brought out all the store fonts and all they did was take down the walls. It looked stupid.

Anyways if I find out more to this I'll keep you guys up to date.

cololi · #**1479** Posted **May 12, 2009, 6:50 PM**

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Originally Posted by Urban_logic

II thought you said you were going to the new Nordstrom Rack. Do they have furniture there?

I was going there, but only because I was out there helping my sister and needed some new threads and shoes, so I thought I would check it and DSW out and combine my trips. None the less, didn't buy anything.

SLC Projects · #**1480** Posted **May 13, 2009, 6:22 AM**

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Originally Posted by SLC Projects

So it looks like the Jordan school district will be moving their offices from Sandy to West Jordan. I was driving on redwood road and notice a coming soon sign right outside of the old shopping strip mall on the corner of 78000 South and Redwood road. ( Where the D.I. used to be. ) Right now all those store fronts sit empty. I wounder if the jordan school district plans to tear down these store fonts to build a new office building(s) or are they going to be cheap and just use the old store fonts as their new office space. I hope not. That would look stupid.
There is a Gateway Computers call center up in Magna that brought out all the store fonts and all they did was take down the walls. It looked stupid.

Anyways if I find out more to this I'll keep you guys up to date.

Ok so a little more about the Jordan school district move. I just got home after coming home from work. Since I live in the area I took a closer look at the site of where the Jordan school district will be moving to. So it looks like these guys are going to do the cheap thing and just move their offices into one of the old ghetto crappy store fonts that look like shit. I notice that the old Golds Gym building will be the new home for the Jordan school district.

Damn it!!! This makes me mad.
This might sound silly to some of you guys, but make most can relate. That you want whats best for the area that you live in. For me that area is 7800 South and Redwood in West Jordan. The old store fonts have been empty for years and now it's rundown and an eyesore for the city of West Jordan. During the past few years I have had rumors that the city wanted to tear them down to built some kind of a mix use development. But nothing ever came to light on that. With this school district move I had my hopes up that maybe these guys would do something about those ugly store fonts and fix the area up, not just move in.

At this point please at least remodel the outside of those rundown buildings.
What a freaking joke. You'd think with a city that has more then 100,000k people and being the 4th biggest city in the state West Jordan would be more then just Strip Malls and Subdivisions.

Other Cities at the same size such as West Valley and Sandy have alot more it seems. Sandy has the Rio Tinto Stadium and West Valley has the E-Center. West Jordan...........well we have the Jordan Landing. Yay. (Rolled eyes)
I'm hoping once the Trax line gets finish maybe West Jordan can FINLLY set up it's city center core. But so far there's not much of a city core.