Winnipeg Jets

[Kinguni]

Originally Posted by viperred88

But as a friend of friend said to me she uses the skywalk to avoid the panhandlers.

There are panhandlers in the skywalks too.

[Kinguni]

Originally Posted by freeweed

I have to agree with the panhandling comment - some years it's been way out of control. Deal with that before you expect the average person to feel comfortable downtown again.

100%. It's not the guy sitting on the street corner with a hat out that's a problem though. It's the smelly intoxicated guy, or even group since they travel that way, in your face begging for a donation to their drinking fund. They get free transportation on Winnipeg Transit too so they can go home after a hard day of drinking and begging for money. The roving groups of youth gang members downtown don't help either. It all has to be dealt with.

[freeweed]

Yeah. Panhandling in other cities doesn't bother me all that much (well, the existence of it bothers me but the individuals do not), but Winnipeg just has such aggressive panhandling.

As loathe as I am to suggest it, a public drunkenness bylaw could really curb a lot of the problem. Then again, it would hit a lot of people who aren't bothering anyone (think walking home after the bar), so I'd never actually want to see it in place.

None of this has a whit to do with the NHL though, so I'll stop now.

[Pegger5]

I actually find Calgary to have way more panhandling issues than Winnipeg. on the street and the Plus 15. Toronto and Montreal have a fair share as well.. Geesh, not to mention Vancouver.

[freeweed]

Originally Posted by Pegger5

I actually find Calgary to have way more panhandling issues than Winnipeg. on the street and the Plus 15. Toronto and Montreal have a fair share as well.. Geesh, not to mention Vancouver.

I think I've seen 2 panhandlers in my entire time here. One guy when I used to walk to one LRT station, and another guy now that I'm going to a different station.

How can you possibly compare roving groups of drunken aggressive natives to the handful of panhandlers in Calgary? But yeah, NOTHING beats Vancouver.

[JayM]

I usually seen musicians playing.

[RTD]

I would say Calgary is pretty bad too. I've seen many times where panhandlers are my face when I've been to Calgary, and even seen a group of natives gang up and beat down on this smaller asian guy on the edge of their Chinatown. Plus, there is a Mac's store downtown (near the west side of downtown from what I recall) that is known for being a hub for crack, meth and distribution of other narcotics. My buddies in Cowtown tell me the city has some pretty serious drug dealing issues in the downtown. Calgary has issues of it's own.

[GORDBO]

on friday aft. some clown in a wheekchair a the pedestrian crosswalk at Main and Sutherland, in the middle of the street, with his hat out, holding up traffic. amazing he didn't get smoked by a vehicle.

[viperred88]

is it true that in Ottawa panhandling is illegal?

I would not be surprised since since it is capital hill where all dignitaries go so I guess the government would want to hide it from the world.

[JayM]

Originally Posted by GORDBO

on friday aft. some clown in a wheekchair a the pedestrian crosswalk at Main and Sutherland, in the middle of the street, with his hat out, holding up traffic. amazing he didn't get smoked by a vehicle.

Nothing new there.

[khabibulin]

Originally Posted by CorbeauNoir

The City of Glendale says a prospective buyer of the Phoenix Coyotes, "in a show of good faith," has deposited $25 million US in an escrow account.

The figure is equal to the amount of city funds Glendale had deposited, at the NHL's insistence, to cover potential losses for the coming season while a local buyr was sought.

Glendale, in a news release Friday, said the buyer has asked for confidentiality because negotiations are ongoing, but there have been multiple reports the city has been in talks with Chicago investor Matthew Hulsizer.


Read more: http://www.cbc.ca/sports/hockey/stor...#ixzz0zqEYmAjz

[MNightShamalan]What a tweest![/MNightShamalan]

What about this? If there is any truth to this, it looks like all the hype and drems of a Dec. 31 deadline and the team returning have been dashed again.

[freeweed]

Originally Posted by khabibulin

What about this? If there is any truth to this, it looks like all the hype and drems of a Dec. 31 deadline and the team returning have been dashed again.

This story has taken so many twists and turns that until the ink is dry, I wouldn't bet on anything. Glendale has claimed they've had a buyer several times now and as of today, zip. Nada. Zilch.

Maybe this will pan out, maybe not. The NHL still has to approve him as a buyer, and a hell of a lot of negotiations have to happen (plus another $150 or so million materialize) before the team is even close to sold.

[roccerfeller]

Originally Posted by khabibulin

What about this? If there is any truth to this, it looks like all the hype and drems of a Dec. 31 deadline and the team returning have been dashed again.

This is true; the report is not false at all

but the wording by the CoG is misleading. It leads one to believe that the 25 million dollar deposit means the new potential owner, Matthew Hulsizer (a Chicago businessman, CEO of PEAK6 i believe) will now be fronting the losses.


It does no such thing. The deal is that the CoG has 25 million in escrow, meant for covering the NHL's losses this season. The CoG did not expect this, and expected a full sale to go through this past summer.

This is bad for the CoG as the $25 in escrow was from "parking garage funds" but is essentially hidden tax payer money.

This is just a deposit, which is entirely refundable btw, that shows the Glendale his financial capacity (after being burned by IEH over the summer; although IEH has reportedly been linked to this new guy, who is loaded with $$$)

It is intended to show the NHL he is the buyer they were looking for, thus fulfilling their part of the deal to find a buyer before December 31st.

Its another way for the CoG to buy more time. Don't be deceived by this tactic. If anything, its a desperate move.

That said, it DOES show the buyer has serious intent to purchase the team. But we dont know what his MOU looks like yet. We dont know anything.

[freeweed]

That last article is interesting and is worth checking out for the graphic alone. Basically, if Winnipeg could sustain a decently high average ticket price, it could be in the top 10 in terms of gate revenue. Even with the smaller building. And as pointed out, if an exhibition game between 2 "foreign" teams can sell out, there's no reason to think regular season WINNIPEG games won't either.

I still can't believe we averaged 13,000 in the crappy old barn with a team that never went anywhere. That building was a disaster and I'm sure the new rink would draw a lot more people. It certainly would get me out to a few games every year, and I live 1500km away. Hell, many southern US teams don't average that much, in much larger cities in brand new rinks, with recent cup banners flying.

[RTD]

Heare, heare: Get your FREE lower bowl tickets to tomorrow's Phoenix Coyotes game agaisnt the San Jose Sharks! Come one, come all! That's right: FREE LOWER BOWL TICKETS, you know; the ones that should be more expensive, but because this is Phoenix and there is virtually no fan base, they NEED to give them away for free! There are still hundreds left, along with thousands of other tickets available for dirt cheap, plus a free hot dog, popcorn, beer and parking!!!

http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1E...COYOTES_1ST500

Password: glendale

Yeah, great business plan. As if things weren't cheap enough down there. What a fucking joke. This team is a good as in Winnipeg next season.

[roccerfeller]

Ouch. Is that a regular season game?

[RTD]

Originally Posted by roccerfeller

Ouch. Is that a regular season game?

No, I don't believe the regular season starts until October. Regardless, this shows that the Arizona market isn't willing to support team that they have, even in these rough and uncertain times. They are a piss-poor market that, regardless of the situation, will not stand by their team. And IMO, the Coyotes need to be relocated to Winnipeg, asap!

[roccerfeller]

Originally Posted by RTD

No, I don't believe the regular season starts until October. Regardless, this shows that the Arizona market isn't willing to support team that they have, even in these rough and uncertain times. They are a piss-poor market that, regardless of the situation, will not stand by their team. And IMO, the Coyotes need to be relocated to Winnipeg, asap!

Well, we don't really have control over anything that will happen directly, but I am sure the gate revenue from the Pre Season game in Winnipeg a couple nights ago was definitely not a bad thing.

You can bet your Jets jockstrap that will be noticed.

[wayward_prince]

Originally Posted by RTD

Heare, heare: Get your FREE lower bowl tickets to tomorrow's Phoenix Coyotes game agaisnt the San Jose Sharks! Come one, come all! That's right: FREE LOWER BOWL TICKETS, you know; the ones that should be more expensive, but because this is Phoenix and there is virtually no fan base, they NEED to give them away for free! There are still hundreds left, along with thousands of other tickets available for dirt cheap, plus a free hot dog, popcorn, beer and parking!!!

http://www.ticketmaster.com/event/1E...COYOTES_1ST500

Password: glendale

Yeah, great business plan. As if things weren't cheap enough down there. What a fucking joke. This team is a good as in Winnipeg next season.

Wow, what a joke. With a billionaire on Winnipeg's side, it shouldn't take long now.

[rrskylar]

The shitty part of the whole thing is that with Glendale picking up a maximum of $25 million in losses the NHL will be forced to cover the rest, and the NHL will no doubt implement severe cost cutting of player salaries now that they know the team will probably be playing in Winnipeg for 2011-2012. So in actual fact Winnipeg will once again be screwed by the NHL!