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Old Posted May 29, 2023, 2:10 PM
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I would assume Hamilton makes developers do some kind of shadowing studies (for trees amongst other things) when a project is proposed… right? Other cities are ontop of this kind of thing, but at the same time I wouldn’t be shocked if no one at the city bothered to inquire early on in the process. Long story short, I think the trees will be ok- it’s not ideal, but they shouldn’t die from a lack of sunlight here outright.

Also, while the brickwork leaves something to be desired up close, it’s really great we’re getting brick for a street-oriented ground level facade. It’s nothing new if we take a really wide look at condo projects, but for downtown this is the first of its kind, regardless of the quality. I think we will all find this the least sterilizing condo project built here yet.
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Old Posted May 29, 2023, 2:12 PM
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shadow studies are required, yes - but not for trees.

Street trees need to be hardy enough for salt, drought, etc - and as a result are pretty tolerant to things like shade.

I wouldn't be too concerned.
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According to: https://www.instagram.com/p/Cs7CCz8v...JiY2I4NDBkZg==

Crane removal is planned for June 13-15
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Old Posted Jun 9, 2023, 3:03 AM
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They have clad the mechanical roof tops with glass and made them look like extra floors ! It looks sooo great ! Now light these mothers up at night !!!!
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Old Posted Jun 12, 2023, 7:54 PM
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They are setting up the ground crane right now to disassemble the two cranes at the top.
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They are setting up the ground crane right now to disassemble the two cranes at the top.
I have likely asked this before, but how are cranes for much taller towers disassembled? The ones that can't be reached by ground cranes?
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Old Posted Jun 12, 2023, 8:44 PM
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Large Liebherr crane took down the construction crane on George Street back in 2020. (32 stories)
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Old Posted Jun 13, 2023, 12:23 AM
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I have likely asked this before, but how are cranes for much taller towers disassembled? The ones that can't be reached by ground cranes?
They use a series of progressively smaller cranes until they have one small enough to fit in the elevator.

Seriously. Some times it takes 3-4 cranes before they are done.

Here is it being done in Toronto a few years ago:

https://urbantoronto.ca/news/2015/03...derricks.15281
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Old Posted Jun 13, 2023, 1:31 AM
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They use a series of progressively smaller cranes until they have one small enough to fit in the elevator.

Seriously. Some times it takes 3-4 cranes before they are done.

Here is it being done in Toronto a few years ago:

https://urbantoronto.ca/news/2015/03...derricks.15281
Thank you!

I was thinking stuff like do they use a helicopter [insert Schwarzenegger movie quote here] or break it down with the existing construction implements to a point where the permanent window-washing arms can bring the rest to street level.
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Old Posted Jun 13, 2023, 5:48 PM
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Sad to see these cranes come down - but glad the buildings are nearing completion and there will be a huge influx of residents to the core! Very exciting
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Old Posted Jun 13, 2023, 6:29 PM
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The only thing better than a crane going up in my books is one coming down because a building is almost done. A completed building is 1000x better than an under construction one.
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Old Posted Jun 13, 2023, 8:20 PM
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The only thing better than a crane going up in my books is one coming down because a building is almost done. A completed building is 1000x better than an under construction one.
Agreed. These buildings have ended up being a great addition to the area. They don't feel like they crush King William at all, and their separation allows the sky to still be visible. While the finishings of the stone work is subpar, it's better than most and honestly from a distance looks good.

Cycled by to take this photo and people were impressed by the size of the crane, and the area is overall bustling. I'm excited for it to be done, as it has been a mess since construction started.

Looking forward to the Zellers property being redeveloped one of these days too, but that will inevitably mean more mess and construction, so the quicker the better.
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Old Posted Jun 13, 2023, 8:34 PM
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It's funny you mention separation here as these actually have a very substandard separation distance by traditional planning metrics. From what I recall it's quite small - something like 18 metres vs. the 25 metre standard.
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It's funny you mention separation here as these actually have a very substandard separation distance by traditional planning metrics. From what I recall it's quite small - something like 18 metres vs. the 25 metre standard.
I believe I had recalled that, but honestly at 40 metres up, I doubt 7 metres is very perceivable. I think it helps as well and makes it even less of an issue here because the towers are perpendicular to each other.
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As these get closer, very interested to see the ground floor retailers / (or probably restaurants) that this development will attract. Maybe we will see a small grocery / or pharmacy with grocery.
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I believe I had recalled that, but honestly at 40 metres up, I doubt 7 metres is very perceivable. I think it helps as well and makes it even less of an issue here because the towers are perpendicular to each other.
The towers being perpendicular means no one gets stuck with a view of the adjacent tower, unlike many other multi tower projects in North America.
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Old Posted Jun 20, 2023, 5:26 PM
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Old Posted Jun 20, 2023, 6:46 PM
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great photos!

please tell me those parking lots will be filled in asap
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