AUSTIN | Waterline | 1,034 Feet | 73 Floors | T/O

[enragedcamel]

Originally Posted by wwmiv

Miami isnt ever actually going to be underwater.

ok

[JACKinBeantown]

Originally Posted by wwmiv

Miami isnt ever actually going to be underwater.

That's because the water will just drain off the edges of the earth.

[wwmiv]

Originally Posted by JACKinBeantown

That's because the water will just drain off the edges of the earth.

No, seriously, and I say this as a Democrat:

Get out of the ‘woke’ echo chamber. Not even in the worst case scenarios is Miami really all that affected by sea level rise:

https://mdc.maps.arcgis.com/apps/web...f3e628a195a398

Set it to two feet, notice how few buildings are actually affected?

The real problems from global climate change for Miami are elsewhere, like water table rise and possible increased proclivity toward hurricanes and other extreme weather events. They aren’t going to be swallowed by a rising sea…

[JACKinBeantown]

Originally Posted by wwmiv

No, seriously, and I say this as a Democrat:

Get out of the ‘woke’ echo chamber. Not even in the worst case scenarios is Miami really all that affected by sea level rise:

https://mdc.maps.arcgis.com/apps/web...f3e628a195a398

Set it to two feet, notice how few buildings are actually affected?

The real problems from global climate change for Miami are elsewhere, like water table rise and possible increased proclivity toward hurricanes and other extreme weather events. They aren’t going to be swallowed by a rising sea…

OK... now add giant waves and swells from those more intense hurricanes and extreme weather events, and watch the resultant inland flooding. The sea doesn't have to rise 10 feet for the city to be under water, even if only some of the time. It's already happened in sections of New York and it will only get worse. Anyway, this thread is about a nonexistent building in Austin.

[Altoic]

Good for both cities, Austin and Miami deserve it.

[GoldenBoot]

Originally Posted by Altoic

Good for both cities, Austin and Miami deserve it.

1,022 feet for a city the size of Austin is amazing!!! Not many other cities on the planet could lay claim to a 1,000+ footer with roughly 2.5 million in its metro area.

[KevinFromTexas]

Yeah, it's not the constant water levels I worry about which even if they are higher will be tame and manageable, it's when that water turns into a fast moving torrent during tropical systems. Just go look for "Miami flooding" on Youtube, especially the videos related to Hurricane Irma.

I'm also less concerned with sea level rise as it'll be more or less unnoticeable, but what I do worry about is more intense storms and ones that are more frequent so that life and business stay disrupted often and long enough to make it not worth it (read economically feasible) for some people to stay. Not everyone down there has another house somewhere. Some of those are the primary residence of people who grew up there.

[Altoic]

https://www.thenextmiami.com/feds-no...rickell-coast/

This is a plan for storm surge.

[JACKinBeantown]

Originally Posted by Altoic

https://www.thenextmiami.com/feds-no...rickell-coast/

This is a plan for storm surge.

Sad that it's necessary, especially when we could collectively have done something about it. But this looks like a good plan.

(How did this become a Miami thread? I guess I'm partly to blame. Whatever... when someone has something to say about this building we'll go back to Austin.)

[StoOgE]

Originally Posted by JACKinBeantown

Sad that it's necessary, especially when we could collectively have done something about it. But this looks like a good plan.

(How did this become a Miami thread? I guess I'm partly to blame. Whatever... when someone has something to say about this building we'll go back to Austin.)

I went to visit the lockes in the Netherlands a few years ago and they said that basically every major US metro on a coast has come to visit them in the last 5 years.

[The ATX]

I drove by the 98RR site this afternoon, and it sure looks like it's about to get underway with the right of way closure.

[The ATX]

Here's the excavation permit for the utility work about to get underway on Red River. The permit confirms that it is for the "98 Red River Waller Creek" project, and it also states that it is for this project's site plan.

https://abc.austintexas.gov/public-s...rtyrsn=2019189

[Geckos_Rule]

In 92RR-related news, a lane of Red River has been blocked off now...

It only raises the question for me of: with a lane of Red River being blocked for presumably 3-4 years at minimum, there functionally isn't a sidewalk going from Cesar Chavez to Rainey St until you get to the Quincy.... The renderings for this one give me hope, but they really better follow through on some sidewalks and walkability for their section of this land. Particularly considering that the same developer owns the parking lot across the street (which has just recently been paved, for some reason), and that won't be gaining legitimate sidewalks any time soon.

[ILUVSAT]

Originally Posted by Geckos_Rule

...which has just recently been paved, for some reason)...

Maybe they paved it for construction worker parking - so that the cars going in-and-out don't create too much additional dust (and mud during rains)?!?

[JACKinBeantown]

Originally Posted by Geckos_Rule

In 92RR-related news, a lane of Red River has been blocked off now...

It only raises the question for me of: with a lane of Red River being blocked for presumably 3-4 years at minimum, there functionally isn't a sidewalk going from Cesar Chavez to Rainey St until you get to the Quincy.... The renderings for this one give me hope, but they really better follow through on some sidewalks and walkability for their section of this land. Particularly considering that the same developer owns the parking lot across the street (which has just recently been paved, for some reason), and that won't be gaining legitimate sidewalks any time soon.

Sidewalk sheds. In New York it's just to be expected. But maybe it's a zoning regulation that Austin doesn't have. (Maybe someone here should look into that.)


https://cdn.vox-cdn.com/thumbor/R91E...44937696.0.jpg

[Geckos_Rule]

Originally Posted by JACKinBeantown

Sidewalk sheds. In New York it's just to be expected. But maybe it's a zoning regulation that Austin doesn't have. (Maybe someone here should look into that.)

I think more likely, closing a lane of a street like we see here just isn't possible in NYC, so they work around it. A sidewalk shed is probably possible in Austin, but a developer isn't going to fool with it when they can just take the full lane.

[drummer]

Originally Posted by Geckos_Rule

I think more likely, closing a lane of a street like we see here just isn't possible in NYC, so they work around it. A sidewalk shed is probably possible in Austin, but a developer isn't going to fool with it when they can just take the full lane.

Haven't we seen sidewalk sheds in Austin? I don't make it downtown as much these days, but I could have sworn that my wife and I walked through one a few months back.

[StoOgE]

Not to self: avoid CC for the next 2 years.

[JAM]

Originally Posted by Geckos_Rule

I think more likely, closing a lane of a street like we see here just isn't possible in NYC, so they work around it. A sidewalk shed is probably possible in Austin, but a developer isn't going to fool with it when they can just take the full lane.

I don't think he understood the lane was taken along with the sidewalk by a barrier. Not quite sure why they did this, its hard enough to get out of Rainey St over to Mopac as it is.

And yes, there are side walk sheds around downtown from time to time. Some work apparently requires them. When they did maintenance at the 4SR they installed them. Seen them around elsewhere too. But in this situation, there is no sidewalk, to install one. But what all is really needed, is a sidewalk. (And that extra lane of road we had stolen) They pulled this over the holidays when its dead on Rainey St, wait until we get back into the full swing of Rainey St fun, its gonna be tough.

[The ATX]

A photo from the Twitterverse. RR is being dug up now inside of the barriers, and the former Ironworks parking overflow is fenced off.


Photo by Steve R.https://twitter.com/TheATX1/status/1480692239491809283