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Old Posted Jun 4, 2018, 5:15 PM
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Chicago is up by nearly a percent over 2010. I struggle to see how recent, small population losses are real issues worthy of any concern, especially in light of the population losses in the decades following the 1960 census. Similar with Detroit, only less stark. Detroit may have lost almost 6%, but compared to losses of one-fifth or even one-quarter, 5.7% almost seems like a positive.
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Old Posted Jun 4, 2018, 9:17 PM
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I wonder why immigration to Chicago has tumbled? And which countries were traditionally the main drivers of immigrants?
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Old Posted Jun 4, 2018, 11:58 PM
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I wonder why immigration to Chicago has tumbled? And which countries were traditionally the main drivers of immigrants?
There are still lots of immigrants coming to Chicago, but it’s just not nearly as robust as it once was. Mexican immigration in particular was so dramatic in the 90s that the population soared (despite declining white and black populations) and whole neighborhoods were transformed.

Despite Crawford’s predictable anti-Chicago rubbish, indeed the local media has been discussing these changes for quite some time. Here is an article that goes into it a bit:

http://www.chicagobusiness.com/artic...r-other-cities
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you would thing the hot states would be loosing people because the 2020's are suposed to get real hot then it will get colder ofter the 20's. its a wait and see thing thing though. sea levels and earthquakes, also volcanos will happen. the yellowstone volcano could be bad or be like the hawaii volcano's. ash would be bad because. you couldnt breath. im not worried about anything though. i think i went off topic again. also i was typing on my xbox and theres typing glitches. delete if you want
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you would thing the hot states would be loosing people because the 2020's are suposed to get real hot then it will get colder ofter the 20's. its a wait and see thing thing though. sea levels and earthquakes, also volcanos will happen. the yellowstone volcano could be bad or be like the hawaii volcano's. ash would be bad because. you couldnt breath. im not worried about anything though. i think i went off topic again. also i was typing on my xbox and theres typing glitches. delete if you want
So the "rust belt's" great hope is that climate change, earthquakes and volcanoes will make the coasts and western US uninhabitable?
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Old Posted Jun 4, 2018, 6:02 PM
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So the "rust belt's" great hope is that climate change, earthquakes and volcanoes will make the coasts and western US uninhabitable?
i think some people will move to the midwest because its safe. oregon has so many volcanos and a earthquake could happen. im glad my dad has property in the next town east of here
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So the "rust belt's" great hope is that climate change, earthquakes and volcanoes will make the coasts and western US uninhabitable?
Why not? The Sun Belt has been capitalizing on warmer weather...
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So the "rust belt's" great hope is that climate change, earthquakes and volcanoes will make the coasts and western US uninhabitable?
No, but cities in regions where natural disasters are essentially non-existent is a longevity advantage.
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you would thing the hot states would be loosing people because the 2020's are suposed to get real hot then it will get colder ofter the 20's. its a wait and see thing thing though. sea levels and earthquakes, also volcanos will happen. the yellowstone volcano could be bad or be like the hawaii volcano's. ash would be bad because. you couldnt breath. im not worried about anything though. i think i went off topic again. also i was typing on my xbox and theres typing glitches. delete if you want
im beginning to think youre a bot lol
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im beginning to think youre a bot lol
i always get posts deleted and i got a warning.
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you would thing the hot states would be loosing people because the 2020's are suposed to get real hot then it will get colder ofter the 20's. its a wait and see thing thing though. sea levels and earthquakes, also volcanos will happen. the yellowstone volcano could be bad or be like the hawaii volcano's. ash would be bad because. you couldnt breath. im not worried about anything though. i think i went off topic again. also i was typing on my xbox and theres typing glitches. delete if you want
I don’t think a degree or two extra high or low will vastly change living patterns, maybe back in borderline pre-Neolithic times we would be at the mercy of the gods but in modern times of climate control it isn’t going to be a drastic problem like say sea level rise.

Even so global average temperature being set to rise a few degrees by end of century that does not apply evenly and does not apply everywhere the same way.

Some places who get more rain, some less , some places will get colder, some warmer.

Climate change predictions and projections pretty all over the place in terms of what may or may not happen. It is hard to conclude much for any local area based off of them.
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Part of Chicago is just the several decades long secular shift of logistics/population growth to the Gulf Coast and SE. DFW and Atlanta to a lesser extent have taken up that Chicago role of the late 19th/early 20th century.
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all the ice in antartica is suposed to melt. its not a couple degrees. thats what some people are saying, we'll have to wait a few years to see.
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Old Posted Jun 7, 2018, 12:37 AM
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all the ice in antartica is suposed to melt. its not a couple degrees. thats what some people are saying, we'll have to wait a few years to see.
Antarctica? All of the ice? Not for thousands, perhaps millions of years my son. Likely never in millions of years. We could go threw several cycles of Ice Ages first.

Its an entire continent that has a mean solid ice depth greater than 2.2 kilometers for the entire mass of solid ice in the center of the south pole.

In the thickest parts is several miles deep.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Antarctic_ice_sheet
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Old Posted Jun 7, 2018, 12:51 AM
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all the ice in antartica is suposed to melt. its not a couple degrees. thats what some people are saying, we'll have to wait a few years to see.
Not even the most over the top wild claims predict anything close to all Antarctic ice melting

If that happens it doesn’t matter because we will all soon be dead as ecosystems the world over collapse and everything goes extinct while the last few surviving humans slowly run out of oxygen under an ever thickening toxic atmosphere
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Old Posted Jun 7, 2018, 2:31 AM
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Not even the most over the top wild claims predict anything close to all Antarctic ice melting

If that happens it doesn’t matter because we will all soon be dead as ecosystems the world over collapse and everything goes extinct while the last few surviving humans slowly run out of oxygen under an ever thickening toxic atmosphere
most people dont think we are going through a ice age. it gets hot then cold. its not the polution, that makes it worse though. its natural, volcanos and earthquakes are happening more. its the sun doing stuff and our planet is doing whatever. i dont know much about this stuff, i just listen to smart people.
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Old Posted Jun 7, 2018, 2:42 AM
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Basically every scientist says humans are causing climate change. Only the corporate shills say otherwise...including via bots and viral marketing. And of course they sucker some people.
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Old Posted Jun 7, 2018, 3:16 AM
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Basically every scientist says humans are causing climate change. Only the corporate shills say otherwise...including via bots and viral marketing. And of course they sucker some people.
Are you implying there is not money to be made from climate change AND irrational/over the top fear of climate change?

Because there is, lots. There is as much climate change alarmism for profit in buisness and politics as theirs is in anti-climate change. Don’t fool yourself
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Are you implying there is not money to be made from climate change AND irrational/over the top fear of climate change?

Because there is, lots. There is as much climate change alarmism for profit in buisness and politics as theirs is in anti-climate change. Don’t fool yourself
In fact there is much much more money to be made in preparing for climate change because it is coming and something as simple as lifting structures on or near beaches or more complicated things like improving infrastructure, building clean energy, conserving resources, etc... are much more profitable businesses ventures than being a human induced climate change denier *Unless you are a politician in the US*.
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In fact there is much much more money to be made in preparing for climate change because it is coming and something as simple as lifting structures on or near beaches or more complicated things like improving infrastructure, building clean energy, conserving resources, etc... are much more profitable businesses ventures than being a human induced climate change denier *Unless you are a politician in the US*.
I wouldn't say that is accurate, for example the people defending US coal I think have a major economic incentive, especially when US coal is hardly a major factor in global warming compared to China.

And lifting homes near the beach for decades or longer away climate change sea level rise is very much making money off of alarmism, same thing with buying terribly inefficient solar panels, they've gotten better but they are hardly a dent in any towns energy needs until they become much more efficient.

or the floated "carbon Credit" concept? Buying away your climate indulgences.

My point is there is money to be made all over to do both the fear mongering and the denying and some of it is just nefarious for making a quick buck and some of it is logical for people trying to save their businesses.
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