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BuildThemTaller · #**1381** Posted **Feb 24, 2019, 7:40 PM**

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Originally Posted by RockfordSoxFan

To play devil's advocate... Why wouldn't a hotel that close to Illinois most popular tourist attraction be plausible? It seems logical to me. No need for Uber or taxi rides to Navy Pier, just walk.

I don't understand the criticisms of a hotel located there, either. Sure, it wouldn't be a place where I would want to stay, but a high end luxury hotel is being built right across the river. And there would be a connection to LSD to this hotel. And then there is the Sheraton just a few blocks west, along the river. It's not crazy to think a hotel could do well there.

LouisVanDerWright · #**1382** Posted **Feb 24, 2019, 7:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by bcp

Traffic...that's laughable in the city

Even if it's a bad spot for a hotel...and let's say that's THE issue for the alderman, their job is not to protect from or predict risk....it's just crazy

I'm going to go with the change to no hotel having more to do with related being a competent developer and not a total Yahoo like Kellher was. Hotel likely was never viable at this location which helped with the downfall of the spire to begin with. Even Kellher ditched the hotel that was proposed by Beitler or whoever originally proposed the spire.

The market HAS spoken, no hotel is proposed...

emathias · #**1383** Posted **Feb 25, 2019, 7:39 AM**

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Originally Posted by Randomguy34

But then how can we call it the new Chicago Spire if it doesn't have a spire?

This design can be a very big hit-or-miss depending on the type of glass they use. My dream would be for it to be cladded dark glass, similar to Sears Tower but a light shade. Also, if this proposal is real, the observatory view is looking over the Aon Center. Add in the spire, and this could be a new city tallest.

The original Spire didn't have a spire ...

Steely Dan · #**1384** Posted **Feb 25, 2019, 7:59 PM**

uh oh, i've got some bad news to share.

related has released their new scheme for the site and it appears to be a ~500' tall stump of the former chicago spire proposal from calatrava.

cozy · #**1385** Posted **Feb 25, 2019, 8:33 PM**

i've come straight from the OCS thread and still fell for it.. LOL. great one

LouisVanDerWright · #**1386** Posted **Feb 25, 2019, 8:48 PM**

Oh well at least they are still doing the bridge even though it's too low for any boats to pass under.

BonoboZill4 · #**1387** Posted **Feb 25, 2019, 9:31 PM**

BuildThemTaller · #**1388** Posted **Feb 25, 2019, 9:40 PM**

I picked a hell of a week to stop sniffing glue

HomrQT · #**1389** Posted **Feb 26, 2019, 5:27 AM**

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Originally Posted by Steely Dan

uh oh, i've got some bad news to share.

related has released their new scheme for the site and it appears to be a ~500' tall stump of the former chicago spire proposal from calatrava.

I can't stop looking at Aon.

It really goes to show just how freaking tall that Spire proposal was.

Tom In Chicago · #**1390** Posted **Feb 26, 2019, 6:31 PM**

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Originally Posted by Steely Dan

uh oh, i've got some bad news to share.

related has released their new scheme for the site and it appears to be a ~500' tall stump of the former chicago spire proposal from calatrava.

Needs more cow. . .

. . .

Zerton · #**1391** Posted **Feb 26, 2019, 6:49 PM**

Why the hell was the two tower scheme not approved by the alderman? Was it the podium?

scalziand · #**1392** Posted **Feb 26, 2019, 8:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by emathias

The original Spire didn't have a spire ...

The early versions did.

http://galleries.apps.chicagotribune.com...07/#chi-chicago-spire-photo-20140207-001

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Originally Posted by Zerton

Why the hell was the two tower scheme not approved by the alderman? Was it the podium?

I believe so.

PittsburghPA · #**1393** Posted **Feb 26, 2019, 9:06 PM**

This thread inspired me to do some digging on the old Gateway Tower proposal by Gensler. Holy SH*T that was an awesome proposal. I sincerely wish that would have gotten a serious look by Related Midwest.

https://chicago.curbed.com/2016/6/3/1185...ture-spire-concept-gensler-gateway-tower

rgarri4 · #**1394** Posted **Feb 27, 2019, 8:32 PM**

Speaking of unbuilt Spires and Gateways, I recently completed a video of my 3d model of Chicago showing a number of unbuilt projects. Apologize if this is off topic.

• Video Link

emathias · #**1395** Posted **Feb 27, 2019, 9:05 PM**

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Originally Posted by rgarri4

Speaking of unbuilt Spires and Gateways, I recently completed a video of my 3d model of Chicago showing a number of unbuilt projects. Apologize if this is off topic.

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That is AWESOME!

HomrQT · #**1396** Posted **Feb 27, 2019, 10:41 PM**

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Originally Posted by rgarri4

Speaking of unbuilt Spires and Gateways, I recently completed a video of my 3d model of Chicago showing a number of unbuilt projects. Apologize if this is off topic.

• Video Link

You put the Miglin-Beitler Skyneedle!!!!!!

HomrQT · #**1397** Posted **Feb 27, 2019, 10:42 PM**

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Originally Posted by Tom In Chicago

Needs more cow. . .

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Ha, took me a moment but I got it.

Barrelfish · #**1398** Posted **Feb 27, 2019, 10:43 PM**

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Originally Posted by rgarri4

Speaking of unbuilt Spires and Gateways, I recently completed a video of my 3d model of Chicago showing a number of unbuilt projects. Apologize if this is off topic.

• Video Link

The mile high tower would have been slightly out of proportion to the rest of the skyline.

Zerton · #**1399** Posted **Feb 28, 2019, 12:57 AM**

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Originally Posted by scalziand

I believe so.

I guess it wasn't though of as pedestrian friendly enough?
I suppose that does make some sense; it reminded me of something we see in Dubai or Chinese cities. Those mall-type podiums that aren't very street friendly.
Plus the podium design didn't match the art-deco look of the towers anyway.

I hope the towers remain similar (this is probably my personal favorite tower proposal in the US right now, the staggering design is fantastic).

harryc · #**1400** Posted **Feb 28, 2019, 2:14 AM**

Feb 27 - 2008

Working on the secant wall