ATLANTA | Development Thread V

[cybele]

Originally Posted by micropundit

Bell said the joint venture believes in village-scale development, which he defined as being "four to six stories maximum, lower scale, lower density but high quality."

I love to see more of that scale of development throughout the city. That does so much to urbanize things.

[cabasse]

the idea of tearing something like this down is just ridiculous! (and that's only the backside) is that known for certain?

[sevensixtwo]

I've been living in the city for seven years. During that time I've been impressed that blacks are more likely to be disruptive and boisterous late at night, i.e.: roll out with their speaker volume tuned inappropriately for a residential area. It's a free-ish country and we can all do whatever we want for the most part, so I'm not complaining. Does anyone disagree with my impression?

[Atlwest281]

The African American patrons just as much as the drunk boistrious white patrons can be blamed for the noise. Acting crazy at 3am knows no racial boundries.

[sevensixtwo]

Originally Posted by cabasse

the idea of tearing something like this down is just ridiculous! (and that's only the backside) is that known for certain?

This building is hideous. We can get rid of that yellow brick thing at Juniper and 3rd too.

[sevensixtwo]

Originally Posted by Atlwest281

The African American patrons just as much as the drunk boistrious white patrons can be blamed for the noise. Acting crazy at 3am knows no racial boundries.

Acting crazy knows no boundaries, I agree. Getting really really loud with your craziness seems to have a racial slant. And I notice in your syntax that the blacks get African American but we're just plain old white. I'm a Jewish American, please don't lump me in with the English.

[Atlwest281]

Like i said getting loud with your craziness knows no racial boundaries. There is only a racial slant if one is looking for it. I think put liquid courage into anyones system and the outcome is usually loudness. You and I both know that. :-)

[BlindFatSnake]

Real construction news is sorely needed on Atlanta's Construction Thread. I've been reading the comments on this website for about 4 years, and have come to the conclusion the Atlanta Construction Thread has more cantankerous blabbermouths than any other "big city" thread. What is the problem in the ATL?
The back and forth between forumers is akin to a sack of cats suspended from a tree branch - each one trying desperately to climb to the top, while peeing and defecating on everything beneath their vicious claws... Stop the madness, Atlanta. We have plenty of construction news to report...

Vision WILL open it doors on the infamous Peachtree, and WILL bite the dust when the economics are right. Rather of not we approve of this establishment is a personal opinion at best, and a viled attempt at exploiting cultural biases at worst. Besides, who are we - pennyless and highly opinionated - to dictate on a forum what decisions MUST be made with money belonging to real "movers and shakers"? For the most part, we're sitting in the stands rooting for the "team of ideas" we like best, and we didn't even pay admission.

I, for one, am just damn glad the ATL is vibrant, growing and thriving instead of declining like so many metropolitan cities...

[sevensixtwo]

Originally Posted by Atlwest281

There is only a racial slant if one is looking for it.

You're right. When I'm looking out my window to see what that noise at 3 a.m. is the there is a racial slant. Get real, dude. I'm gonna let it go, but being realistic isn't being racist. A lot of stereotypes are right on a lot of the time. Shrewd Jew. Gay hairdresser. Pregnant baptist. Horny man.

[Atlwest281]

Well well said!! I miss the days of new development updates and pics. Its nice to be able to for all of us to enjoy one common thing instead of the constant racial discussions and grandstanding happening in the room now. So like3 I have done in the Past...

Any new developments breaking ground? Any pics of some of the under construction projects? Did anyone see the pics of the new International terminal in The Hartsfield room? Any news on new things coming to the Midtown mile?

[Atlwest281]

Originally Posted by sevensixtwo

You're right. When I'm looking out my window to see what that noise at 3 a.m. is the there is a racial slant. Get real, dude. I'm gonna let it go, but being realistic isn't being racist. A lot of stereotypes are right on a lot of the time. Shrewd Jew. Gay hairdresser. Pregnant baptist. Horny man.

I am being real. I can show you just as many instances where white partiers are just as loud if not more so here and many other cities but hey its fine to make a blanket statement about a group. Never once did I say you were racist never once. I just said its easy to find that slant and make it seam like its the whole when its not. I think the more apprapo statement would be hey there is alot of young untrained insensitive brats in the street being inconsiderate to those living in the area who are trying to sleep. But hey what do I know.

[sevensixtwo]

I want to retract my previous statements. Despite tens of thousands of years of isolated development, all ethnic groups are exactly the same.

[vjhe]

Originally Posted by sevensixtwo

You're right. When I'm looking out my window to see what that noise at 3 a.m. is the there is a racial slant. Get real, dude. I'm gonna let it go, but being realistic isn't being racist. A lot of stereotypes are right on a lot of the time. Shrewd Jew. Gay hairdresser. Pregnant baptist. Horny man.

You left out racists white folk. Shall I begin about how many whites I've met that almost immediately lived into that stereotype? I'm with you sevensixtwo in that there is nothing wrong with being realistic.

Back to Atlanta projects.

[vjhe]

Oh I just saw sevensixtwo's last post. I also would like to retract my previous statement. Maybe my experiences weren't THAT bad.

[gttx]

Originally Posted by Atlwest281

I think the more apprapo statement would be hey there is alot of young untrained insensitive brats in the street being inconsiderate to those living in the area who are trying to sleep. But hey what do I know.

Well I think you are being unfairly ageist. How can you know that young people are disproportionately represented over old people?

Ignorance.

[sevensixtwo]

Originally Posted by vjhe

You left out racists white folk. Shall I begin about how many whites I've met that almost immediately lived into that stereotype? I'm with you sevensixtwo in that there is nothing wrong with being realistic.

Back to Atlanta projects.

I think 'people are prejudiced' is a better stereotype than 'white people are racist.' But well said vjhe.

[sevensixtwo]

Originally Posted by gttx

Well I think you are being unfairly ageist. How can you know that young people are disproportionately represented over old people?

Ignorance.

I've never been bothered by crunk old people.

[Atlwest281]

Ohhh lord. Such such a shame. No one is saying stereotypes don't SOMETIME hold water but not always. Do I think you are racist no.

All you can go by is your experiences and if your experiences with a certain raise or people has been negative im really sorry but please remember not all are like the ones who disrupt your peace. To often people say stereotypes and dont realize people think they are saying all or the whole. And no im not ignorant far from it. I just see so much unnecessary crap from all peoples and sadly it all boils down to misunderstandings. Sorry if i upset anyone or my comments were misunderstood. I apologize.

[BlueSangha]

I think this has more to do with Out-Group Bias (were we tend to hold hostility or dislike for those outside our In-Group, and assume they are distinct from our In-Group when in fact it is not the case, there are more similarities than dissimilarities)than it does with stereotyping (which when it comes right down to it is a cognitive error-to assume a schema for a particular group of people). What the conversation boils down to is that people want to feel safe in their neighborhoods (in-group) and dislike or hold hostility toward the club goers (out-group) who threaten that safety no matter who they are. So if the people arguing their points on this thread removed their emotions from such arguments and stuck with logic, it would be harder for others to attack your percieved prejudices. It is one thing to be "realistic" it is another to be unbias and factual.

[Atlwest281]

Hi BlueSangha