Poll: should the CFL move goal posts to the end dead line as in the NFL ?

[Hackslack]

Originally Posted by elly63

Sorry that I can't buy your narrative and puppet what you want me to say. I just want to know what you guys will say if they want to go to four downs. Oh, we still have the wider field, we still have 12 men. And I have said I don't like the changes, too many, terrible timing, too American (as jonny proved) and totally unnecessary. Elbows Up!

They are literally just moving the goalposts to the back of the end zone, opening up the middle of the end zone, and shortening the length of the field by 5 yards on each half, making it less distance to the red zone.

[BlackDog204]

Originally Posted by cjones2451

Surprised Elly63 hasn't corrected your grammar "....fewer points."

Nobody knows how this is going to turn out until it happens.

Unless you have insight the rest of us don't

Imagine how pathetic one has to be, to mention grammar(of all things).

Why not just come out, and say "I have nothing to add to the conversation,so I will just launch personal attacks to discredit one's opinion."

Just stick to the NFL, dude...

[BlackDog204]

Originally Posted by elly63

Was that necessary?

The "ignore" function tends to come in handy, at times like this..

[CanSpice]

Originally Posted by Hackslack

They are literally just moving the goalposts to the back of the end zone, opening up the middle of the end zone, and shortening the length of the field by 5 yards on each half, making it less distance to the red zone.

Clearly all of that is just as terrible as a drug that resulted in thousands of deaths and birth defects.

[cjones2451]

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

Imagine how pathetic one has to be, to mention grammar(of all things).

Why not just come out, and say "I have nothing to add to the conversation, so I will just launch personal attacks to discredit one's opinion."

Just stick to the NFL, dude...

Don't follow the NFL (will watch in the CFL offseason), been a lifelong CFL fan (35 year Lions STH). I think I have added a ton to the conversation and reasons that I believe that they are doing this and you are don't seem to believe it or even consider it, "it is its more American or closer to American". Just because people support the changes does not mean they are NFL fans, get over that.

I don't believe it changes the fundamentals of the Canadian game, but if you do, that is your prerogative. My attempt at humour with the grammar fell flat so, mea culpa on me

For the record, if the league went to 4 downs, I am out, because then I would believe the US narrative you stated, but I don't believe the owners are that foolish. I talked to Lions management at a STH event and although nothing was 100% confirmed the hypothesis I have put forward I believe has legs and we will see more announcements after the BoG meeting next week.

The fact that the agenda for the meeting next week was publish is a small step forward on transparency.

https://www.cfl.ca/2026/01/09/2026-c...ay-in-january/

[Hackslack]

Originally Posted by Hackslack

They are literally just moving the goalposts to the back of the end zone, opening up the middle of the end zone, and shortening the length of the field by 5 yards on each half, making it less distance to the red zone.

Quoting myself here, cause after thinking of it… I think the biggest issue we will see is an increase in dribbler punts…

I can already Imagine the uproar from the anti-changers that the dribbler is uniquely Canadian that exploits its rules and NEEDS to remain, otherwise it just the NFL 2.0

[cjones2451]

Originally Posted by elly63

Sorry that I can't buy your narrative and puppet what you want me to say. I just want to know what you guys will say if they want to go to four downs. Oh, we still have the wider field, we still have 12 men. And I have said I don't like the changes, too many, terrible timing, too American (as jonny proved) and totally unnecessary. Elbows Up!

I am not asking you to do that, but I feel you are focusing on the American angle, but again we will not know until we see them. When there is only one other type of pro ball, it is inevitably going to be compared to that, even if it may not be relevant. Should they have gone to 30 yard endzones and an 80 yard field, just to be distinctive from the US game

The league gets $1M a year currently from CBS sports and $50M from TSN, do you really think they are catering to the US for this? Even if they went down the road of expansion, what is an Expansion fee ($10M ?), plus then the whole ratio becomes a factor and a huge showdown with the CFLPA, does that seem logical?

[jonny24]

Originally Posted by cjones2451

Don't follow the NFL (will watch in the CFL offseason), been a lifelong CFL fan (35 year Lions STH). I think I have added a ton to the conversation and reasons that I believe that they are doing this and you are don't seem to believe it or even consider it, "it is its more American or closer to American". Just because people support the changes does not mean they are NFL fans, get over that.

I think you have, more than most other people I've tried to discuss this that have the opposite view from me

The fact that the agenda for the meeting next week was publish is a small step forward on transparency.

https://www.cfl.ca/2026/01/09/2026-c...ay-in-january/

Thanks for sharing this!

[cjones2451]

Originally Posted by jonny24

Thanks for sharing this!

Cheers

Bottom line, we want the CFL to succeed and be around for future generations to enjoy, I just hope the leagues governors do that and if it doesn't do what they thought it would that they admit it and move to correct it

[jonny24]

Originally Posted by cjones2451

https://www.cfl.ca/2026/01/09/2026-c...ay-in-january/

Whoa, this is a big one!

Playoffs
Potential adjustments to the Grey Cup Playoff format for future seasons

Originally Posted by cjones2451

I am not asking you to do that, but I feel you are focusing on the American angle, but again we will not know until we see them. When there is only one other type of pro ball, it is inevitably going to be compared to that, even if it may not be relevant. Should they have gone to 30 yard endzones and an 80 yard field, just to be distinctive from the US game

This to me is at the root of the varying identities people have about the game.

I don't view Canadian Football primarily as "one of two variations of "football"", but as "one of ~7 types of football, and it happens to have a lot of similarities to one of the others".

Our baseline of comparison to American football ought to be more like rugby league and rugby union - comparable yes, but fundamentally independent of each other. It should not be the only point of comparison.


(and I mean strictly in terms of gameplay and evolution, the cultural baggage between the types of rugby is a whole nother can of worms)

[BlackDog204]

What on Earth is wrong with the current playoff format?

[Hackslack]

Originally Posted by BlackDog204

What on Earth is wrong with the current playoff format?

I’d guess they’d be looking at removing the divisions.

[northernlights99]

Most of the CFL owners use their teams as tax shelters. Look at the BC Lions owner, he's an Investor, probably uses his losses as a tax write off.

If Lions owner wants to turn a profit maybe he shouldn't be paying Nathan Rorke $ 600 K a year. That is ridiculous, Rorke ain't worth half of that.

So with the shorter field, where will kickoffs be taken from ?

And TD one point converts, without adjustment those will now be 40 yards, not exactly chip shots.

[Hackslack]

Originally Posted by northernlights99

Most of the CFL owners use their teams as tax shelters. Look at the BC Lions owner, he's an Investor, probably uses his losses as a tax write off.

If Lions owner wants to turn a profit maybe he shouldn't be paying Nathan Rorke $ 600 K a year. That is ridiculous, Rorke ain't worth half of that.

So with the shorter field, where will kickoffs be taken from ?

And TD one point converts, without adjustment those will now be 40 yards, not exactly chip shots.

Aren’t 3 of the teams owned by their respective governments?

[elly63]

Originally Posted by Hackslack

Aren’t 3 of the teams owned by their respective governments?

Are you serious?

[Hackslack]

Originally Posted by elly63

Are you serious?

Sorry… meant community owned for 2 of the teams… (RIP Larry Thomson)…

But people don’t actually think those teams are tax shelters

[elly63]

Originally Posted by Hackslack

Sorry… meant community owned for 2 of the teams… (RIP Larry Thomson)…

But people don’t actually think those teams are tax shelters

Community owned is not government owned, ie the city of Winnipeg does not own the Bombers

[BlackDog204]

Originally Posted by elly63

Community owned is not government owned, ie the city of Winnipeg does not own the Bombers

I think the Roughriders are also community owned. So the two most profitable teams are community owned, and the weakest team is owned by MLSE. I think it's fair to say that being owned by a big corporation is not the way to go.

[BlackDog204]

Anyway, back to the CFL...

[cjones2451]

Originally Posted by northernlights99

Most of the CFL owners use their teams as tax shelters. Look at the BC Lions owner, he's an Investor, probably uses his losses as a tax write off.

If Lions owner wants to turn a profit maybe he shouldn't be paying Nathan Rorke $ 600 K a year. That is ridiculous, Rorke ain't worth half of that.

So with the shorter field, where will kickoffs be taken from ?

And TD one point converts, without adjustment those will now be 40 yards, not exactly chip shots.

Regardless of whether they can write off losses or not, do you not think they want to increase the overall value of their franchises? Franchise value, not profit, seems to be the goal of many owners in Pro Sports

So the reigning MOP, (and its Rourke) is not worth $600K, so what about the other starting QBs league? BLM, VA, Chad Kelly, Trevor Harris?

I am sure they will adjust the kick off line and the PAT line before the 2027 season.