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Old Posted Jun 26, 2024, 6:13 AM
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Oh wow, 40 storeys! Vancouver is definitely doing more than it needs to. I sense that, with comments Ken Sim has made before, that even if a new provincial government comes in an abolishes the fall housing legislation, Vancouver will keep it. And also the upzoning going far further than 800 meters. What is going on? I am very confused by the sudden YIMBY shift in the same governments all of a sudden.
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Old Posted Jun 26, 2024, 6:36 AM
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Oh wow, 40 storeys! Vancouver is definitely doing more than it needs to. I sense that, with comments Ken Sim has made before, that even if a new provincial government comes in an abolishes the fall housing legislation, Vancouver will keep it. And also the upzoning going far further than 800 meters. What is going on? I am very confused by the sudden YIMBY shift in the same governments all of a sudden.
Technically this plan predates the BC TOD legislation, it was just updated to better adhere to what the province is requiring.
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Old Posted Jun 26, 2024, 11:01 AM
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I was hoping for more residential closer to the stations, but the City has opted to retain the existing commercial zones that contain mostly big box stores with their huge parking lots. It's not really industrial to begin with, but that's what they are designating these areas as, though that's what they initially indicated would happen.
That is due to the floodplain, right?
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Old Posted Jun 26, 2024, 12:45 PM
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That is due to the floodplain, right?
And Metro Regional Growth Strategy employment designations. The City would need to get an amendment to the RGS to make those areas General Urban. They are doing this for the MST development of the old BCL distribution branch, but those are special circumstances.
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Old Posted Jun 26, 2024, 4:54 PM
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The way I'm reading it, the wording on the 3FSR job space seems to imply that only the industrial 2FSR requirement is flexible, but not the overall 3FSR job space minimum.

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*For sites along Grandview Hwy, flexibility on 2FSR industrial to allow for retail uses
I would like to see it higher and some firm lower bounds on that Grandview retail carve-out, but the area covered by these mixed industrial, office and retail zonings are quite large at 1.5km end-to-end. Fully built-out it would represent a very large employment district.
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Old Posted Jun 26, 2024, 5:07 PM
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The way I'm reading it, the wording on the 3FSR job space seems to imply that only the industrial 2FSR requirement is flexible, but not the overall 3FSR job space minimum.
I read it as 2 FSR minimum industrial, 3 FSR maximum, implying there can be 1 FSR worth of non-industrial.

A good way to get rid of the large surface parking lots.
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Old Posted Jun 26, 2024, 5:46 PM
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I read it as 2 FSR minimum industrial, 3 FSR maximum, implying there can be 1 FSR worth of non-industrial.

A good way to get rid of the large surface parking lots.
In the 3 FSR zone, it's 2 FSR minimum industrial, except on Grandview Highway there's flexibility for some of that space to be retail. The plan specifically mentions big-box grocery stores, so presumably they're contemplating a redeveloped Superstore. The other 1 FSR could be industrial, or office. There's an extra twist because near Still Creek there's a limit on underground parking in the industrial zones, so some of the floorspace allowance could be a parkade. There's a suggestion that additional height and density could be allowed to offset the costs of mitigating the high groundwater consequences, so any parkade FSR could be discounted, but any redevelopment will be complicated and potentially expensive. (The parkade approach already exists with the Canadian Tire / Save On Foods at Bentall Street).

As far as I can see, the 3 FSR parts of the area have the same zoning that prevails today, I-2. The 3.5 and 5.0 FSR zones alloow potentially more space.
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Final Plan Draft released today. Quite the change from the previous low-effort draft:

https://www.shapeyourcity.ca/rupert-...tion-area-plan
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Old Posted Jan 28, 2025, 10:32 PM
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Final Plan Draft released today. Quite the change from the previous low-effort draft:

https://www.shapeyourcity.ca/rupert-...tion-area-plan
I really like the inclusion of a "Public Realm Strategy", haven't seen that in many other planning documents (aside from the updates to the Broadway Plan). Kudos to the CoV planners for putting focus on that.
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Large portions of the "Village Residential" areas fall within the provinces 800 meter TOA zone. This bumps the FSR for strata from 2.0 FSR to 3.0 FSR. That's a considerable jump. Not sure why they just didn't include this different category of land use on their colour coded map.
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Sightline Properties Buys 26-Lot Land Assembly In East Vancouver For $100M

https://storeys.com/sightline-proper...east-broadway/

Around $100/sf buildable.
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Old Posted Apr 16, 2025, 12:20 AM
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Sightline Properties Buys 26-Lot Land Assembly In East Vancouver For $100M

https://storeys.com/sightline-proper...east-broadway/

Around $100/sf buildable.
Ok, somebody explain how you get a property where you can build condo's that will fetch around $$1200 (probly more) per sq foot, for only $100 per buildable sq foot? I thought the rule was to calculate about 30% of the selling price as your cost for the property, ie if condos there will go for $1000 per square foot, then the property should be priced at $300 per buildable sq foot.
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Ok, somebody explain how you get a property where you can build condo's that will fetch around $$1200 (probly more) per sq foot, for only $100 per buildable sq foot? I thought the rule was to calculate about 30% of the selling price as your cost for the property, ie if condos there will go for $1000 per square foot, then the property should be priced at $300 per buildable sq foot.
Guess you should have told the homeowners that!
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Old Posted Apr 16, 2025, 12:35 AM
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Guess you should have told the homeowners that!
The realtor representing the homeowner should know how much the property is worth. The Rupert/Renfrew plan has been out there long before these properties were sold.
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The realtor representing the homeowner should know how much the property is worth. The Rupert/Renfrew plan has been out there long before these properties were sold.
What realtor? Maybe Sightline took the initiative (and the risk) to acquire the block. As they used four different entities, one possibility is that they were trying to get each of the four quarters, with the potential for a tower on each one, but got lucky that there weren't any stubborn hold-outs, and managed to pick up the entire block. No doubt they paid an initial sum to hold the owners (possibly with some sort of confidentialiity clause) while they continued to negotiate with other owners.

They paid close to double the assessed value for the houses overall, so the homeowners should all have more than enough to buy another home elsewhere with money to spare - especially as the market is really slow and there are supposedly plenty for sale, but very few buyers.

The $300 buildable is only a 'rule' in terms of the maximum a developer should pay in the current Vancouver market and expect to be able to turn a profit. There's no rule about how little they should pay. The price they paid isn't unknown in recent sales. GEC paid $111 psf buildable last year for their Cambie tower.
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This agent had some of the lots facing East 10th in an assembly.

https://www.melaniechow.ca/2800-bloc...-broadway.html

They has sales pending on assemblies at 3100 and 2700 Blocks of East Broadway as well.
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#VanCityCouncil approves motion on agenda item Report 1 – Rupert and Renfrew Station Area Plan, unanimously.
12:06 PM · Jul 8, 2025
https://x.com/VanCityClerk/status/1942661675594965208

There were only 7 public speakers with nearly all in support of the plan, though the fellow from City Hall Watch called in to speak in opposition.
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Wild compared to Broadway Plan!
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