213 King St W | 95 m | 30 fl | Under Construction

[HamiltonBoyInToronto]

Please please please bring back at least a 4 star hotel to hamilton... soon embarrassing when we have out of town guests and their options are Sheraton and Hilton express lol

[craftbeerdad]

Originally Posted by HamiltonBoyInToronto

Please please please bring back at least a 4 star hotel to hamilton... soon embarrassing when we have out of town guests and their options are Sheraton and Hilton express lol

100% agree.

If this city every wants to be taken seriously we need less QEW/Mississauga/Oakville border crappy hotel clusters and more quality accommodations.

With the arena, convention centre, concert hall and city centre renovations happening in the next 5-10 years (some sooner than others), having two and three star lodgings is pretty small town garbage.

Vrancich has the two-three star market covered, I guess he's going for the monopoly on average hotels.

[Markus83]

Originally Posted by craftbeerdad

100% agree.

If this city every wants to be taken seriously we need less QEW/Mississauga/Oakville border crappy hotel clusters and more quality accommodations.

With the arena, convention centre, concert hall and city centre renovations happening in the next 5-10 years (some sooner than others), having two and three star lodgings is pretty small town garbage.

Vrancich has the two-three star market covered, I guess he's going for the monopoly on average hotels.

I think there is still a Hyatt to be built in the Mac Inno Park. Is that something of better quality perhaps?

[Innsertnamehere]

Originally Posted by Markus83

I think there is still a Hyatt to be built in the Mac Inno Park. Is that something of better quality perhaps?

Hyatt announced a big expansion in Ontario a few years ago and most were cancelled or at least severely stalled with COVID. Their downtown Toronto is the only hotel still going ahead, the Niagara Falls location was cut mid-construction and McMaster has long stalled with no word of construction start.

The McMaster hotel has been pulled from Hyatt's website, though Niagara Falls is still there despite being stalled in construction for like 2 years now:

https://www.hyatt.com/development/explore-hotels/

the planned brand for McMaster, Hyatt House, is a 3-star long-term-stay brand anyway, so still not a 4-star brand.

Honestly I don't think Hamilton has the market for a 4-star hotel yet. Getting more 3-star hotels downtown is the best we are going to get for a while, I think. Even the hotel getting built at Queen and King right now is a Hampton, Hilton's lowest tier hotel brand. It's still 3-stars, just on the low end of that rank.

[Innsertnamehere]

Perhaps the article was mistaken and it has actually been converted to all residential? That generally makes more sense to me than a massive, 300+ room hotel.

The description on the development applications tracker has switched to:

Application resubmitted to construct a 30 storey mixed-use buildingwith 348 dwelling units, 391 sqm of retail space and 195 parking spaces within the above grade parking garage at 20 George St.

compared to before:

To construct a mixed-use development consisting of a 30-storey tower above a six-storey based building. A 110 room Hotel is proposed, together with 241 dwelling units and 227 parking spaces.

[johnnyhamont]

Updated render

[SteelTown]

The latest rendering.

Originally Posted by johnnyhamont

Updated render

[Chronamut]

Yawn.. boring..

[StEC]

Wait what happened to curves and pointed tower top? This is far more boring than what I remember this to look like.

[SteelTown]

I can picture the latest proposal as a Doubletree by Hilton.

[StEC]

This also is another improvement. We really do need a solid 4 star hotel and maybe a 5 star boutique hotel especially with all the film production in the city now. Stars and film execs need better options than what currently exists.

[TheHonestMaple]

I noticed they ripped up the parking lot today. Could construction be starting on this one??

[TheRitsman]

No permits as of yet, not sure either why they're ripping up the asphalt. Maybe the digger being parked for so long it ruined the asphalt?

[TheHonestMaple]

Originally Posted by TheRitsman

No permits as of yet, not sure either why they're ripping up the asphalt. Maybe the digger being parked for so long it ruined the asphalt?

I don't think so, they removed the entire surface. Strange.

[Innsertnamehere]

aren't they using this for construction staging for the McMaster graduate student residence? It may be related to that..

Regarding permits though, we all know that Vranich has been known to do things without them before, so that doesn't really mean anything.

[ScreamingViking]

Yep. Build first, ask for permits later.

[TheHonestMaple]

They've started excavation here. Currently about one floor below grade on the east side of the site. Weird, no building permits but it appears they are definitely starting construction.

[Innsertnamehere]

hmm, did they shore? I guess they may not need to given that theres no underground parking.. it's likely only going to be 1 basement level anyway.

[TheRitsman]

Originally Posted by Innsertnamehere

hmm, did they shore? I guess they may not need to given that theres no underground parking.. it's likely only going to be 1 basement level anyway.

I haven't been by in a few days, but they started digging out the southwest corner against the foundations of the other two buildings. Even if they're only going down 1 storey though, they would still need to shore against the sidewalk and road side. 1 floor underground is going to still be 3-5 metres which requires shoring for a vertical wall.

Went by, they're removing dirt, not just digging:

[Innsertnamehere]

hmm. Well you can tell they are relying on the existing shoring for the two adjacent developments.. We will have to see if this turns into something more significant.