71 Rebecca St | 97 m | 30 fl | Proposed - Page 7

LRTfan · #**121** Posted **Jan 22, 2018, 6:16 PM**

with the open for business city administrations in Mississauga, Brampton, Vaughan, Markham etc. I suspect Hamilton will be smaller than all of those places in 50 years.

Chronamut · #**122** Posted **Jan 22, 2018, 7:54 PM**

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with the open for business city administrations in Mississauga, Brampton, Vaughan, Markham etc. I suspect Hamilton will be smaller than all of those places in 50 years.

those places are suburbs though.. hamilton and toronto are the only ones considered actual CITIES on our western side of lake ontario..

and its argued that those places are in reality just extensions of toronto as they are in the GTA.

Toronto is gobbling up the cities around it, much like hamilton is gobbling up the cities around it - this imo proves that hamilton is still growing.. even if it is just by absorbing the areas around it.

GeneralLeeTPHLS · #**123** Posted **Jan 22, 2018, 9:00 PM**

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those places are suburbs though.. hamilton and toronto are the only ones considered actual CITIES on our western side of lake ontario..

and its argued that those places are in reality just extensions of toronto as they are in the GTA.

Toronto is gobbling up the cities around it, much like hamilton is gobbling up the cities around it - this imo proves that hamilton is still growing.. even if it is just by absorbing the areas around it.

I agree. Even if a place (like Mississauga) is bigger by land area or by population, it doesn't mean they're more significant than Hamilton. The city is changing, and has the atmosphere, history and urbanity of a separate city, rather then some suburb like Burlington. In terms of the Golden Horseshoe, Toronto and Hamilton are really the two biggest parts of the region, the amount of traffic that comes from both cities (whether it be for work or schooling or anything else) makes it clear that both cities have a lot to offer due to their growth and change in the last 200 years.

realcity · #**124** Posted **Jan 23, 2018, 2:10 AM**

Hamilton was a regional city, only barely still is because of the hospitals, schools and government offices. There is nothing in the Standard Life anymore but a couple Federal agencies. So I still go there. Noticed the waterfalls is turned off. I started a while ago taking photos of the directories of downtown office buildings. It's pretty sad to see the tenants of those buildings.

Hamiltons pop looks like it is growing because of the growth in shitholes like Binbrook. Wards 1 to 5, {I think 6 is barely hanging onto growth} are and have been losing pop. since the late 70s. I am tired of hearing "the potential", "turning the corner" crap. A few buildings got built in the last three decades and suddenly Hamilton has to worry about too much density and height to try to preserve what exactly.?

Sorry but Jason Thorne's #itsthelittlethings is pathetic. No it;s not, maybe for Caledonia. It is the big things. Hamilton and its head of development think making a loading/unloading zone for musicians will make Hamilton turn the corner.

ScreamingViking · #**125** Posted **Jan 23, 2018, 3:06 AM**

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A little history lesson:

Back in the day (40's/ 50s?) Hamilton used to be BIGGER than toronto - it was a hub site for cities all around it, including in the states. Big corporations sat in hamilton, and money was there for investment.

We had some big corporations in Hamilton, but it hasn't been bigger than Toronto since there's been a Census.

movingtohamilton · #**126** Posted **Jan 23, 2018, 3:23 PM**

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Sorry but Jason Thorne's #itsthelittlethings is pathetic. No it;s not, maybe for Caledonia. It is the big things. Hamilton and its head of development think making a loading/unloading zone for musicians will make Hamilton turn the corner.

^ This, x 1000

TheRitsman · #**127** Posted **May 30, 2018, 5:11 AM**

There was a comment made at the meeting for John and Rebecca park on Tuesday night about the design for the Rebecca St development being incorporated into the park in some way.

Essentially they asked if there was any potential for the park to compliment the development better, and if the development could connect with the park with its own park better.

He also mentioned that the current proposal consists of a 30 storey tower.

It was some architect guy, didn't grab his name.

Dr Awesomesauce · #**128** Posted **May 30, 2018, 12:08 PM**

^Even better, the developer could build the park himself.

LRTfan · #**129** Posted **May 30, 2018, 12:45 PM**

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^Even better, the developer could build the park himself.

If I'm the developer, I offer to do just that in exchange for a 45 or 50 storey condo. This is how it works in every. other. city.

ScreamingViking · #**130** Posted **Jun 3, 2018, 4:56 PM**

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^Even better, the developer could build the park himself.

lachlanholmes · #**131** Posted **Jul 4, 2018, 6:43 PM**

According to this motion to waive road widening, they've submitted an application for 30 floors.

https://pub-hamilton.escribemeetings...umentId=158760

anactualalien · #**132** Posted **Jul 4, 2018, 9:10 PM**

30 floors, I'll take it. I hope the podium design saw some tweaks though.

SteelTown · #**133** Posted **Jul 4, 2018, 10:32 PM**

71 Rebecca St | 121.5 m | 40 fl | Proposal -> 71 Rebecca St | ? m | 30 fl | Proposal

LRTfan · #**134** Posted **Jul 5, 2018, 2:09 AM**

winning, Hamilton style. Reduce the number of new residents living in the downtown core by 25% before the project even gets started on it's application process. At this rate, we should be able to NIMBY it all the way down to a 3 storey vinyl townhouse project by the time they apply for building permit. #winning

king10 · #**135** Posted **Jul 5, 2018, 1:22 PM**

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winning, Hamilton style. Reduce the number of new residents living in the downtown core by 25% before the project even gets started on it's application process. At this rate, we should be able to NIMBY it all the way down to a 3 storey vinyl townhouse project by the time they apply for building permit. #winning

thats a little over dramatic

atnor · #**136** Posted **Jul 5, 2018, 1:54 PM**

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thats a little over dramatic

LRTfan loves the drama and hyperbole.

drpgq · #**137** Posted **Jul 5, 2018, 3:26 PM**

People wonder why rents are so high in Hamilton. Nothing is going to help except supply and arbitrary height limits based off of Jason Thorne's weird speculation beliefs (like he can predict the market) doesn't help.

LRTfan · #**138** Posted **Jul 5, 2018, 6:48 PM**

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thats a little over dramatic

Ok ok, a 4-storey vinyl townhouse. haha

Make no mistake, that's what many NA's ultimate goal is with urban developments. 3-4 stories. You'll recall Kirkendall freaking out over the Dundurn warehouse proposal at 5 floors. They NIMBY'd it down to 3.

Chronamut · #**139** Posted **Jul 6, 2018, 1:31 PM**

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Ok ok, a 4-storey vinyl townhouse. haha

Make no mistake, that's what many NA's ultimate goal is with urban developments. 3-4 stories. You'll recall Kirkendall freaking out over the Dundurn warehouse proposal at 5 floors. They NIMBY'd it down to 3.

Not everything has to be over 30 stories - landscape staggering of heights is what makes the bigger buildings stand out more, and prevents canyons where no sun shines and where you get a subdivision of skyscrapers.

Personally id like to see it done in blocks, where the center of the block is a high building and everything ringing it in the block is 3-4 stories.

LRTfan · #**140** Posted **Jul 6, 2018, 2:57 PM**

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Not everything has to be over 30 stories - landscape staggering of heights is what makes the bigger buildings stand out more, and prevents canyons where no sun shines and where you get a subdivision of skyscrapers.

Personally id like to see it done in blocks, where the center of the block is a high building and everything ringing it in the block is 3-4 stories.

totally agree. I just don't think we should be lowering the heights of the rare tall proposal that comes along for no reason.