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Old Posted Aug 14, 2015, 12:41 PM
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thought this was funny but some truth to it

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Old Posted Aug 14, 2015, 1:39 PM
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The real tragedy is that the city has sat back and allowed the value of taxi plates to grow to hundreds and thousands of dollars and then watch the value be destroyed overnight because of their inaction in making the industry operate on a level playing field. Whether corruption is the right word, I kind of doubt it. It all seems more like gross incompetence where the city wheels of action are moving at snail's pace while the industry is changing at almost lightning speed.
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Old Posted Aug 14, 2015, 2:09 PM
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Also the Canadian obsession with anti-competition. Look at the government liquor stores, dairy farms, etc.
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The real tragedy is that the city has sat back and allowed the value of taxi plates to grow to hundreds and thousands of dollars and then watch the value be destroyed overnight because of their inaction in making the industry operate on a level playing field.
And that's really the root of the problem.... how much of a cab fare goes to paying interest on those plates... money which could be invested in the industry itself (i.e. lower fares, newer cars, better driver pay, etc).

The whole model is so artificial... and has no choice but to change.
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Uber willing to pay tax per ride

CBC reporting that UBER willing to pay a tax per ride, at least in Montreal

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montre...ride-1.3195616
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CBC reporting that UBER willing to pay a tax per ride, at least in Montreal

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/montre...ride-1.3195616
10'cents is really a non offer. Fair would be more like a $1 or $2 per ride if you don't have a taxi plate. That would also include a pay per use insurance scheme that Uber might have to self manage.
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Old Posted Aug 20, 2015, 4:19 PM
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You're missing the point. The goal of this shouldn't be to put all the stupid regulations we have on taxis on Uber to cause them to be the same high price as cabs... it should be to cut back on the regulations to allow cabs to be cheap like Uber!
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You're missing the point. The goal of this shouldn't be to put all the stupid regulations we have on taxis on Uber to cause them to be the same high price as cabs... it should be to cut back on the regulations to allow cabs to be cheap like Uber!
True. I assume they pay HST currently? But yeah, even 30 cents per fare would be good.
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True. I assume they pay HST currently? But yeah, even 30 cents per fare would be good.
Uber doesn't pay HST, but their drivers are legally obligated to forward HST revenues to the CRA.

One of the aspects of any future legalization agreement should be Uber forwarding transaction data to the CRA to ensure compliance with this.
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You're missing the point. The goal of this shouldn't be to put all the stupid regulations we have on taxis on Uber to cause them to be the same high price as cabs... it should be to cut back on the regulations to allow cabs to be cheap like Uber!
Sure but there is a liability issue for the city if the plate owners (basically Coventry) sue.
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Sure but there is a liability issue for the city if the plate owners (basically Coventry) sue.
Exactly, this is a very complicated situation and needs some careful study and some delicate solutions. In meantime, Uber cannot be allowed to operate entirely freely otherwise the taxi business will be destroyed. If we allow that to happen, we unwisely give a monopoly to a multi-national and leave a significant portion of the population (those with no smart phones or Internet) with no service.
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10'cents is really a non offer. Fair would be more like a $1 or $2 per ride if you don't have a taxi plate. That would also include a pay per use insurance scheme that Uber might have to self manage.
Uber pays 30 cents per ride in Chicago to the city, no reason why it should be any higher here.
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Exactly, this is a very complicated situation and needs some careful study and some delicate solutions. In meantime, Uber cannot be allowed to operate entirely freely otherwise the taxi business will be destroyed. If we allow that to happen, we unwisely give a monopoly to a multi-national and leave a significant portion of the population (those with no smart phones or Internet) with no service.
Hence why the city needs to move quickly to deregulate the industry, in order to both legalize Uber and put them all on a level playing field. The City of Toronto has just started reviewing its laws to figure out how to accomplish that, we should be working with them, and with the province, on this file.
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Ottawans watching taxi war closely: Poll

By Dani-elle Dube, Ottawa Sun
First posted: Thursday, August 20, 2015 09:57 PM EDT | Updated: Friday, August 21, 2015 07:24 AM EDT


Ottawans are closely watching the city's taxi war unfold -- but it doesn't appear they've quite decided who they want to win.

A new poll conducted by Mainstreet Research paints a picture of a riding public that is split on whether Uber should be allowed to operate on this city's streets.

The vast majority of respondents said they have been following the issue, whether "very closely" or "somewhat closely," and that was the same across all age groups -- an outcome that surprised the pollster.

"When compared to other cities, Ottawa has the highest percentage of people following the issue," Quito Maggi, president and CEO of Mainstreet Research, told the Sun.

"It stood out."

The majority of those polled (58%) said that Uber should be held to the same standards as taxis through regulations upheld by the city.

Another strong majority say it's time to abolish the current taxi system in the city. There were 50% of respondents who offered that opinion, while only 13% said they believe in the current system.

But that's pretty much all that Ottawa can agree on. From then on things get tricky and the parting of the sea begins.

When asked if the ride-sharing service should be banned, 40% of people said "yes" while 36% said "no."

Much of the support comes from the younger demographic, said Maggi, which is expected.

"Support for Uber is pretty split in most communities and Ottawa's no different," said Maggie.

As for Ottawa's feelings about the Uber versus taxi battle, it's a close call.

About 34% say that the situation is fair and 33% feel that taxi drivers should face the competition.

Respondents also made it clear they feel safer in city-regulated taxis.

About 89% of male and 86% of female respondents said they feel either very safe or somewhat safe using Ottawa's taxis -- while only 55% of men and 46% of women said they felt safe with Uber.

Maggi attributes people's perception of Uber to uncertainty.

"The cities where Uber has launched most recently show the lowest support," said Maggi. "This is because people don't necessarily know or aren't aware of what it is and its benefits or its risks. So there is this inherent fear of change and that's not unusual."

Mainstreet surveyed 7,323 Canadians across six cities on Aug, 12-13, dialling a mix of landlines and cellphones. The margin of error for the Ottawa statistics was 2.65 percentage points, 19 times out of 20. Results were weighed by language (where applicable), age and gender based on the 2011 Canadian Census.

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Old Posted Sep 4, 2015, 9:41 PM
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Just watched a news clip on CBC Ottawa where a taxi driver intimidated 2 Asian girls and a black Uber driver at the train station. You don't have to be a rocket scientist to realize the guy is probably an Uber driver, picking up his fares.

The 2 Asian girls looked really confused and somewhat scared. Ottawa councilllor on the Transportation Committee, Mathieu Fleury, doesn't agree with cab driver's actions and so do I. Let the by-law officers do their jobs, when you start taking things into your own hands, stuff can and will happen.

I have only taken 3 Uber rides in Ottawa so far but I follow the news fairly closely. I will tell an Uber driver to park where there is no cab, so as not to attract attention and I can walk there. It's a dog-eat-dog world out there and while I am not taking any side, I do have to go with the cheaper option and that is just the way it is going to be...until the City bans Uber completely like Spain.
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The longer this goes on the more damage cab drivers do to their cause. I am a firm believer in Uber and will continue to use their service!
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Agreed on all fronts. Though technically receiving money for a carpool is part of the underground economy, but I see nothing wrong with it. Taxi drivers are just trying to protect their broken business model - no different than the music industry 15 years ago.
I also agree, although its not okay for the taxi drivers but they can switch to uber services right.
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Notice how the music industry has thrived in the last 15 years.
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The recent acts from taxi drivers especially with the cases of taxi drivers filming Uber drivers, uttering threats to Uber drivers (like possibly the story in the Citizen today), numerous videos of Youtube showing rude attitudes from cabbies, numerous cases of bad and/or dangerous driving from cabbies (see RedRavick and specialj99`s Youtube videos for example) and the Airport Taxi protest and acts of vandalism are certainly helping the cause to support more Uber.
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Notice how the music industry has thrived in the last 15 years.
The artists have thrived. The diminishing sales of music (CD's) has resulted in many brick & mortar stores closing down.
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