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Old Posted Sep 16, 2009, 1:02 AM
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That place is very surprisingly busy all of the time. I don't think I've passed by once while it's open without there being a line of at least 3-5 people waiting. I never really thought a pretzel place would do so well in JS.

The new Country Style Bisto store is also doing really well. Seems like the renovation was able to steal a lot of customers away from Tim Hortons. Beautifully renovated too, it almost looks *too* good for Jackson Square. Gotta say, JS is really doing good these days.
Now imagine if an NHL team were to roll into town. Things are not looking too great on that front at the moment, but you never know.

The improvements are a good thing, but it would be better if things could get to a position where a new pretzel shop or a renovated donut shop do not constitute relatively big news.
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These kinds of things aren't worthwhile to you, and yet they are worthwhile enough for you to bother to reply to the thread. How does that work?
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The improvements are a good thing, but it would be better if things could get to a position where a new pretzel shop or a renovated donut shop do not constitute relatively big news.
Uh...the Jackson Square thread on the SSP Hamilton forum is not "relatively big news". It's a thread about all the goings on at JS, large and small. If you're not into the minutae, don't check it out.
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Uh...the Jackson Square thread on the SSP Hamilton forum is not "relatively big news". It's a thread about all the goings on at JS, large and small. If you're not into the minutae, don't check it out.
My comment was in the context of the Jackson Square thread --- as things stand now, the donut and pretzel shop renovations/openings are fairly noteworthy relative to other happenings in the mall. If an NHL team were to move in, some much larger things could happen at the mall and the donut/pretzel stuff would be smaller potatoes.
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There's more action going on here than in the 'King St. North of Gore Park' thread.
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It's a bit late to post on these guys, but I've only been to Shanghai Tea Merchant once or twice since it opened - it's really, really great though. Not only do they have great tea: but they had architecture and arts magazines to read as well as the usual tabloid-types, which was fantastic. Very peaceful in there.
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Anyone know exactly where this going in Jackson?

Meredith Macleod
The Hamilton Spectator
(Oct 19, 2009)

You've probably never heard of Hugh Cossart Baker Jr., but a creative incubator in the works for downtown Hamilton will bring the businessman's name back to life.

The Imperial Cotton Centre for the Arts has begun construction on a new space in Jackson Square that will help fledgling artists, entrepreneurs and organizations get their business ventures off the ground.

It will be named the Cossart Exchange.

Hamilton has high-tech and innovation incubators, but this will be the first aimed at the creative sector.

There are examples around the world, and Toronto has more than a dozen aimed at the arts, film, fashion and social enterprise.

Hugh Cossart Baker Jr. (1846-1931) was an entrepreneur, inventor, volunteer and community organizer who is most famous for creating the first commercial telephone exchange in the British Empire -- in Hamilton.

He also played a role in establishing the Hamilton Street Railway, Hamilton Real Estate Association and Leander Boat Club.

Jeremy Freiburger, executive director of the Imperial Cotton Centre for the Arts, which redevelops and manages former industrial properties for artistic uses, says it seemed perfect to name the incubator after a successful Hamiltonian.

"His work is indicative of the kind of work happening in the creative community in Hamilton now," said Freiburger.

The 2,000-square-foot centre, now under construction on the second floor of Jackson Square, will overlook the newly renovated market and the mall's rooftop patio.

The hope is to launch in December.

The incubator will provide work stations, meeting space and staff resources to about 12 to 16 participants at a time. They will pay $150 a month and be matched with mentors who can help with financial planning, networking, strategic development and marketing.

Participants will also be expected to offer 40 hours of volunteering a year.

"The Cossart program will be about energizing people, ideas and products, and playing a role in helping them be successful," said Freiburger.

"It's really going to be dictated by what people need."

The definition of creative is always in flux, says Freiburger. It's not strictly about artistic endeavours, but can apply to ideas, events, products and new ways of doing things.

The participants will be selected by a jury, and the bottom-line criteria is that the product, idea or service must be good for the community, says Freiburger.

Jason Hofing, who started his own coffee importing and roasting business, Red Hill Coffee Trade, a year ago, is lining up to apply to the exchange.

"It's a really good, unique and creative approach to growing and designing a business," he said.

"It's a unique opportunity to do business co-operatively and collaboratively rather than doing it all alone."

Hofing, 33, is particularly looking for guidance about building his customer base and getting the word out about an alternative coffee culture and fair trade coffee.

Hofing anticipates a lot of people will be drawn to the exchange because the creative scene is growing and the ICCA and Freiburger have developed a reputation for success.

"They are very warm and welcoming, and interested and accepting of ideas. It's a perfect fit for what I'm doing."

Hamilton is crying out for an incubator for creativity, Freiburger says.

It's estimated there are about 3,000 businesses and organizations in the creative sector in Hamilton, and the industry is pegged to generate about $260 million a year.

Based on a Statistics Canada study, which found that 25 per cent of creative businesses seek incubation services in their first five years of operation, Freiburger believes about 750 enterprises in the city could use the Cossart Exchange.

A quick Facebook post generated great response from people wanting to be involved as participants, mentors and sponsors.

The Ontario Trillium Foundation has given the Cossart Exchange a $130,000, two-year grant, and Freiburger estimates the working budget for two years will be somewhere around $300,000.

"We are looking for sponsors. It's the kind of program we think the business community can see value in because it connects cultural development to economic development."

The ICCA studied creative incubators around the world, including the Hub in Halifax and the Centre for Social Innovation in Toronto.

The Cossart Exchange can be reached at [email protected], 905-548-0111 and the website is cossartexchange.com.

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Perhaps the former skating rink in the Standard Life Centre? There's also a spot above the Dollarama - I remember a training college in there but don't know if they are still in that space. There's also the Bank of Montreal podium which I believe is still vacant.
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I'm pretty sure that college is still there - just because I've recently seen people in their scrubs/logo going in and out.

I'm happy to see this come to JS.
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Sounds like the former skating rink location.
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i think its in the locaton of the old food court, above the entrance to the farmers market
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Thanks for the pic of the old food court -- where it used to be when I was a kid hanging out at Jackson Square. I'd totally forgotten about that place, but this brings back memories.
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They are. That's why I'm confused by where this *actually* is.
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You know despite that Downtown Hamilton's had it's ups and downs...the core is always busy along with Jackson Square. At peak hours of course, but I'm glad we have a downtown mall (other than HCC) that can always seem busy as well unlike in London, Brantford and Kitchener. Apparently the Galleria was bought by another company but a turnaround will take time.

I always wished that Hamilton had a Bay Department store like in Ottawa, Toronto etc. I know we had Eatons but we should have turned it into a Bay.
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I always wished that Hamilton had a Bay Department store like in Ottawa, Toronto etc. I know we had Eatons but we should have turned it into a Bay.
This is definitely the biggest drawback to the city that I remember during my time there. Clothes shopping for me required either a soul-sucking trip to Lime Ridge or an energy- and time-consuming trip to Toronto. My girlfriend at the time had much better luck locally. Were it not for that, I'd say Hamilton ranks up there with the best cities in Canada.
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Born and raised in Hamilton, left when I was about 25 and worked for HBC. I was working at the H.O. and the Bay didn't want anything to do with downtown Hamilton.
A key draw the the other downtown Bay stores is tourism, Toronto, Montreal, Ottawa and Vancouver thrive because of it.
Limeridge was it for them because of the urban semi upscale aspect, Eastgate was a store that managers either started in before moving to a relevant location like Burlington or Oakville, or the poor managers went to die before they were fired.
Mapleview also drew from all parts of Hamilton, so another Hamilton location would be considered redundant.

I worked downtown at Kresges when the core was going to shat, late 80's to early 90's. Even then, the Eatons store was a ghost town, Saturdays were brutal down there and Saturday is the big day for retail usually.

Jackson Square needs radical change, and I hope the library/market renovation can start them off on the right foot.
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Not sure if anyone's been, but the International Food Court on the basement level of the Hamilton City Ctr (former Eaton's Ctr) has some good eats!
La Luna looks to have opened a Take-out shop here. There's also a Country Style Deli, Caribbean Pot, and some (seemingly) authentic Indian and Asian booths too.

Check it out if you're ever in this deserted, untravelled stretch of the Civic Mall
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Now that the downtown McMaster Medical campus will be built I wonder if Jackson Square will have new plans for the vacant area where it was the temporary location of the Farmers' Market.
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Now that the downtown McMaster Medical campus will be built I wonder if Jackson Square will have new plans for the vacant area where it was the temporary location of the Farmers' Market.
I guess all the new City subsidized vacant retail space from Phase 2 of the project will be begging for some competition.
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