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Old Posted Jun 24, 2024, 9:58 PM
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WS expands its interline agreement with DE into a codeshare. WS code placed on DE flights to FRA / and DE added code on WS domestic/US flights.
https://www.westjet.com/en-ca/news/2...-canadian-citi

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Also WS has already begun making changes to S25, including one new route.

NEW:
Effective April 27, 2025:
WS1611 YYC 10:30 - 14:12 MSP 737 D
WS1610 MSP 15:15 - 17:12 YYC 737 D

YVR-SNA has either been removed/or wasn't loaded when the schedule got extended. Shows until April 26.
I wonder if YOW-YYZ will get extended back to year-round service again? Still saying: "Service to Toronto resumes on Sun Oct 27 2024 and ends on Sat Apr 26 2025."

It's so bizarre that they're only flying this seasonally. Evidently it's to feed the sun routes at YYZ in winter, but what about everything else at YYZ in the summer?
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Old Posted Jun 25, 2024, 8:26 PM
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YYZ is bigger for winter than for summer for WS, all of those various Caribbean, Mexican, and Florida destinations are bigger than anything they have summer-wise, after they chopped much of the domestic offerings. So not surprising they have some winter seasonal domestic connections, but still not a ton.
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Old Posted Jun 26, 2024, 1:52 PM
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Looks like PD is about to announce a significant Florida expansion.

YOW gets RSW and TPA - along with MCO and FLL going double daily.
YUL gets RSW and FLL
YHZ gets TPA and MCO - first "longer haul" E2 routes from YHZ.
YYZ gets PBI

https://www.flyporter.com/en-ca/abou...er-and-embraer

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Old Posted Jun 26, 2024, 3:37 PM
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Looks like PD is about to announce a significant Florida expansion.

YOW gets RSW and TPA - along with MCO and FLL going double daily.
YUL gets RSW and FLL
YHZ gets TPA and MCO - first "longer haul" E2 routes from YHZ.
YYZ gets PBI

https://www.flyporter.com/en-ca/abou...er-and-embraer
Already bookable:
YYZ/YOW-FLL/MCO all going double daily
YYZ-PBI daily
YOW-TPA 4x weekly ops X246
YOW-RSW days 246
YHZ-TPA days 246
YHZ-MCO days 1357
YUL-FLL daily
YUL-RSW days 1357
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Old Posted Jun 26, 2024, 3:39 PM
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AC Vacations winter schedule also came out today.

New routes:
YOW/YQB-TQO (Tulum - new CUN alternative/reliever airport)
YUL-SXM
YUL/YYZ-TQO - previously announced a few months ago

Plus a bunch of sun routes with capacity increases out of YHZ, YQB, YUL, YOW, YYZ & YVR: https://www.newswire.ca/news-release...817615420.html
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Old Posted Jun 26, 2024, 4:56 PM
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AMFA has again walked away from the bargaining table with WS. WS in-turn issued a lockout notice.

A CIRB decision is still pending about imposing binding arbitration, but I highly doubt the the CIRB will agree to that.

https://www.newswire.ca/news-release...801152963.html
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Old Posted Jun 27, 2024, 10:16 PM
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AMFA has again walked away from the bargaining table with WS. WS in-turn issued a lockout notice.

A CIRB decision is still pending about imposing binding arbitration, but I highly doubt the the CIRB will agree to that.

https://www.newswire.ca/news-release...801152963.html
Looks like the CIRB did grant binding arbitration.
https://www.amfanational.org/?zone=/...&HomeID=923754
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Old Posted Jun 27, 2024, 11:55 PM
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Interesting that under Liberal PM Chretien Air Canada pilots were allowed to strike for 13 days yet Liberal PM Justin Trudeau slams the WS group into arbitration before a strike even begins. Totally on-brand for someone who has eroded Canadian workers ability to get wage gains, when he opens the floodgate to cheap imported labour.
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Old Posted Jun 28, 2024, 1:22 AM
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Interesting that under Liberal PM Chretien Air Canada pilots were allowed to strike for 13 days yet Liberal PM Justin Trudeau slams the WS group into arbitration before a strike even begins. Totally on-brand for someone who has eroded Canadian workers ability to get wage gains, when he opens the floodgate to cheap imported labour.
And if there were a strike, they'd be harping about the PM not doing anything to save Cdns from the horror.
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Old Posted Jun 28, 2024, 1:25 AM
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Interesting that under Liberal PM Chretien Air Canada pilots were allowed to strike for 13 days yet Liberal PM Justin Trudeau slams the WS group into arbitration before a strike even begins. Totally on-brand for someone who has eroded Canadian workers ability to get wage gains, when he opens the floodgate to cheap imported labour.
Aren't they asking for like a 30% raise?
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Old Posted Jun 28, 2024, 1:30 AM
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Aren't they asking for like a 30% raise?
Rejected 22%…. Want 30%. Not going to win public support. If demands are strong then arbitration will work out for workers.
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Old Posted Jun 28, 2024, 1:35 AM
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Rejected 22%…. Want 30%. Not going to win public support. If demands are strong then arbitration will work out for workers.
That seems to be the result of binding arbitration more often than not.
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Old Posted Jun 28, 2024, 12:36 PM
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Already bookable:
YYZ/YOW-FLL/MCO all going double daily
YYZ-PBI daily
YOW-TPA 4x weekly ops X246
YOW-RSW days 246
YHZ-TPA days 246
YHZ-MCO days 1357
YUL-FLL daily
YUL-RSW days 1357
I also missed YYZ-TPA goes double daily.

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Looks like the CIRB did grant binding arbitration.
https://www.amfanational.org/?zone=/...&HomeID=923754
It's more like the Labour Minister directed the CIRB to impose arbitration, so the CIRB itself didn't even have the opportunity to render a decision.

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Old Posted Jun 28, 2024, 1:50 PM
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I also missed YYZ-TPA goes double daily.
YYZ-RSW double daily as well, and YHZ-MCO is daily except for the first week of ops. Speaking of YHZ-MCO, will be interesting to see if TS will continues to operate the route, currently scheduled up to 3x weekly on a 321.
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Old Posted Jun 28, 2024, 8:48 PM
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Aren't they asking for like a 30% raise?
I would love a 30% raise, but not ever going to happen for me!
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Old Posted Jun 28, 2024, 11:40 PM
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While not being able to strike or threaten to do so surely reduces the union's leverage, I would assume that if their demands are relatively reasonable and if WS management has been obstructive as they claim, that the arbitration would mostly work out for them no?
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Old Posted Jun 29, 2024, 3:05 AM
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The strike is on at WestJet.

Personally, I have my doubts that forced arbitration is constitutional. The Supreme Court already ruled several years ago that back to work legislation is unconstitutional. This is almost the same thing.
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Old Posted Jun 29, 2024, 6:22 AM
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Aren't they asking for like a 30% raise?
Idiots.
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Old Posted Jun 29, 2024, 6:56 AM
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The strike is on at WestJet.
Game and set to the AMFA lol.
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Old Posted Jun 29, 2024, 3:30 PM
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End of the day the Union may get their 30% pay raise. Losers in all this are the tens of thousands of travellers whose vacations are getting ruined. You don’t think ONEX (Westjet) after being embarrassed by all this and their reputation maybe damaged long term isn’t going to do everything in their power to find alternatives to outsource all 750 of those jobs? Be careful where greed leads you
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