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Old Posted May 15, 2026, 3:12 PM
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Why do you not like palms?
Just a personal preference, mainly. I prefer trees that provide legitimate shade and don't have issues handling the extremes. I see a lot of palms that people put in their yards (or in shopping centers) that don't make it, and then they're just there - dead. While we do have a couple varieties of the sabal palm that can make it in our area (central Texas), I still don't prefer them to other native shade trees.

That said, I'm not going to lose sleep if people put them in anywhere. Not a hill to die on.
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Old Posted May 15, 2026, 9:38 PM
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Just a personal preference, mainly. I prefer trees that provide legitimate shade and don't have issues handling the extremes. I see a lot of palms that people put in their yards (or in shopping centers) that don't make it, and then they're just there - dead. While we do have a couple varieties of the sabal palm that can make it in our area (central Texas), I still don't prefer them to other native shade trees.

That said, I'm not going to lose sleep if people put them in anywhere. Not a hill to die on.
Texas Sabals are native to the Austin area as well as the Palmetto. I have a large Sabal Palm in my yard that had 0 damage from either winter storm event 2021/2023 and it provides shade. That is why you see them along the hike and bike trail and also other areas like Guerrero Park and Ecology Action Texas protected areas.
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Old Posted May 15, 2026, 11:16 PM
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Cool. I like that the City is doing an affordable owner occupied residential building as opposed to rentals.
The Chicon is similar but looks so much better.
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Old Posted May 16, 2026, 4:57 PM
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Texas Sabals are native to the Austin area as well as the Palmetto. I have a large Sabal Palm in my yard that had 0 damage from either winter storm event 2021/2023 and it provides shade. That is why you see them along the hike and bike trail and also other areas like Guerrero Park and Ecology Action Texas protected areas.
Just to add some extra context. You may search about this and may get a google response saying it is not native to our area, however that is not accurate as over the last couple of decades ecologists and botanists have located isolated wild populations within Central and East Texas and the consensus is their range does indeed stretch this far north. There is only a small fraction of untouched pristine areas. This part of the state looks very different than what it did 500 years ago and Texas has not done the best job preserving native ecology. This area was cleared for ranching and farming. Anywho I typically reccomend to people if your going to plant palms, stay clear of California and Mexican fan palms and focus on Texas Sabal and Palmettos.
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Old Posted May 19, 2026, 5:19 PM
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That makes sense - thanks for sharing. Palms in general still aren't my personal favorites, but I'm probably thinking about the other kinds that you mentioned.
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Looks like "Dog's Head" might be getting annexed? On the agenda for the 21st and could definitely be interesting for long term development on the east side.

https://services.austintexas.gov/edims/document.cfm?id=473683
https://communityimpact.com/austin/east-...of-mixed-use-development-in-east-austin/
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Looks like "Dog's Head" might be getting annexed? On the agenda for the 21st and could definitely be interesting for long term development on the east side.

https://services.austintexas.gov/edims/document.cfm?id=473683
https://communityimpact.com/austin/east-...of-mixed-use-development-in-east-austin/
my gut tells me that Endeavor has a "fish on" or a whale, contingent upon it becoming annexed.
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Old Posted May 20, 2026, 3:27 PM
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my gut tells me that Endeavor has a "fish on" or a whale, contingent upon it becoming annexed.
"City officials believe the so-called Dog’s Head in Southeast Austin — a massive, mostly undeveloped chunk of land in the city's extraterritorial jurisdiction on the east side — has the potential to generate up to $3.5 billion in new property tax revenue over 30 years.

Austin City Council will vote May 21 to approve a development agreement for the Dog’s Head and annex the 2,614-acre site into city limits. On May 19, council members received a briefing from city staff that detailed the potential economic impact of such decisions. The presentation highlighted the massive property tax revenue potential and the advantages of annexing the huge property into Austin city limits.

The Dog’s Head is so named due to the Colorado River, which bends to creates the shape of a dog's head when viewed high in the sky. It’s mostly populated by family-owned ranches and mining operations, but given that it's between downtown and the Austin airport, it's a diamond in the rough.

Local real estate developer Endeavor Real Estate Group, the group behind huge Austin developments such as The Domain and Southpark Meadows, has long had eyes on developing the Dog’s Head and has spent years acquiring the vast majority of land there.

Austin is at an economic disadvantage because it doesn't have sites of the size and scale of the Dog’s Head, which would help grow the tax base, due to fractionalized land ownership, outdated infrastructure and more, Assistant City Manager Eric Johnson said.

“Dog’s Head is really one of these opportunities that is falling into our laps at a perfect time,” Johnson said. “Annexing will enhance Austin’s economic development competitive advantage, create new revenue sources and lock in a long-term tax base position to attract major development, employers, strengthen Austin’s regional economic leadership and deliver shovel-ready that will make a difference in site selection.”

Because it is located in Austin’s ETJ, the dog’s head provides Austin no property tax revenue at this time, but should it be annexed the city believes the Dog’s Head has the potential to generate $1.5 billion to $3.5 billion. If the City Council approves annexation, it would go into effect June 1, according to the presentation.

Besides the property tax revenue generation, annexing the Dog’s Head gives Austin a competitive advantage in economic development, Johnson said, adding that “many would argue that we’ve been out of the game with economic development for a while, and it’s time for us to get back in it.”

Johnson said having a huge, shovel-ready site like the Dog’s Head within city limits, very near to the airport and a short drive to downtown Austin makes the region arguably “the premier location in the entire MSA, and particularly in the world of site selection. This advantage makes the site a prime candidate for massive mixed-use, employment centers, secondary employment campuses, sports and entertainment to name a few.

It still isn’t clear what Endeavor has planned for the Dog’s Head. The developer has always kept its cards close to its chest and hasn’t revealed its ultimate plans for the region — likely because development is a yearslong endeavor and market conditions will fluctuate. But the Austin City Council voting on the development agreement, annexation and more represents the most meaningful development activity for that land since a 2,100-acre municipal utility district was created there in 2021."
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Old Posted May 20, 2026, 7:23 PM
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Hope they are designing the area for transit. A train line from Dog’s Head, across the river to the new Bolm development and then through the east side into downtown and then down lake Austin blvd to Walsh landing would be a very utilized line.
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Old Posted May 20, 2026, 7:28 PM
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Hope they are designing the area for transit. A train line from Dog’s Head, across the river to the new Bolm development and then through the east side into downtown and then down lake Austin blvd to Walsh landing would be a very utilized line.
Particularly if it continues back across the river on the other side to the Tesla campus.
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Old Posted May 22, 2026, 1:20 AM
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my gut tells me that Endeavor has a "fish on" or a whale, contingent upon it becoming annexed.
You were spot on!

Fortune 100 company could be headed to Dog's Head in SE Austin
Developers making headway but opposition has appeared

https://www.bizjournals.com/austin/news/...ariant=cx_undefined&cx_artPos=0#cxrecs_s

Moments before City Council approved annexation of and a development agreement for Southeast Austin's Dog's Head property, a representative of the majority-owner of the land told City Council a Fortune 100 has approached them about establishing a base of operations there.
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Old Posted May 22, 2026, 1:17 PM
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You were spot on!

Fortune 100 company could be headed to Dog's Head in SE Austin
Developers making headway but opposition has appeared

https://www.bizjournals.com/austin/news/...ariant=cx_undefined&cx_artPos=0#cxrecs_s

Moments before City Council approved annexation of and a development agreement for Southeast Austin's Dog's Head property, a representative of the majority-owner of the land told City Council a Fortune 100 has approached them about establishing a base of operations there.
Will be interesting to see who the Fortune 100 company is. Will be "advanced manufacturing" (not data center or military use).

https://www.50pros.com/fortune500

Mod's this might warrant it's own Dog's Head Development thread.
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Being non-military and a Fortune 100 manufacturing company narrows the field quite a bit. There are several pharmaceutical companies on that list. Also, Corning and Nvidia formed a joint venture and announced plans this month to build three fiber optic manufacturing facilities in Texas and North Carolina. Corning doesn't quite make the Fortune 100 list, but Nvidia certainly does.
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A possible clue: A site plan was approved & released this morning for "Project Toaster" which is for 300+ acres of demo and grading within the Dog's Head area off of Dalton Lane.

https://abc.austintexas.gov/web/permit/p...=13705100&t_selected_propertyrsn=9558126

EDIT: The LLC that owns these ~300 acres traces back to Endeavor. So Project Toaster is part of the overall project.
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Old Posted May 22, 2026, 3:28 PM
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You were spot on!

Fortune 100 company could be headed to Dog's Head in SE Austin
Developers making headway but opposition has appeared

https://www.bizjournals.com/austin/news/...ariant=cx_undefined&cx_artPos=0#cxrecs_s

Moments before City Council approved annexation of and a development agreement for Southeast Austin's Dog's Head property, a representative of the majority-owner of the land told City Council a Fortune 100 has approached them about establishing a base of operations there.
of course the leeches at save our springs are already suing
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Being non-military and a Fortune 100 manufacturing company narrows the field quite a bit. There are several pharmaceutical companies on that list. Also, Corning and Nvidia formed a joint venture and announced plans this month to build three fiber optic manufacturing facilities in Texas and North Carolina. Corning doesn't quite make the Fortune 100 list, but Nvidia certainly does.
That's a great guess. I don't believe it will be Tesla, Dell or Oracle. Like you said it's probably tech or pharmaceutical. If that holds true, it could be any one of the following from the Fortune 100:

Amazon
Apple
Google
Microsoft
Meta
Nvidia
Verizon
J&J
Merck
Pfizer
Broadcom
AbbiVie
Eli Lilly
Cisco
HP
Intel
Bristol-Myers Squibb
Qualcomm (101)
Abbott Laboratories (103)
Thermo Fisher Scientific (104)
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City Council approves 2,600-acre 'Dog's Head' development in East Austin

KUT 90.5 | By Andrew Weber
Published May 22, 2026 at 10:03 AM CDT

https://www.kut.org/austin/2026-05-22/austin-tx-city-council-dogs-head-development

Austin City Council approved an agreement to develop more than 2,600 acres along the Colorado River known as the “Dog’s Head” tracts.

Austinites largely testified against the deal Thursday, which cropped up on the council agenda just last week — and wasn’t vetted by city commissions ahead of the vote.

After hours of testimony, council members moved ahead to annex the site that’s roughly the size of downtown, kicking off a development process that would bring a mixed-use development to the East Austin tracts.

The 45-year deal would incorporate the 2,600-acre site into city limits and allow for a mixed-use development with the possibility of housing, along with commercial or industrial use.

The plot, which was previously an industrial site, is owned by an LLC with ties to Endeavor Real Estate Group, which would develop the land.

Neighbors living on the tracts say they hadn’t heard about the plan until this week, while other people reamed City Council for not properly vetting the Dog’s Head plan before rushing it to a vote.

Lee Edwards called the city’s push to develop the land “problematic.” He and other neighbors were caught off guard by the plan and called for more transparency from the city.

“I didn't find out about it until two days ago — not from Endeavor … not from the city — from a friend,” he said. “I didn't know any of this existed. We have an officially registered neighborhood association. It was not contacted.”

Lawyer Richard Suttle, who represents Endeavor, told council Tuesday that the project would be similar to the firm’s development of the Domain, which it gradually acquired and then later developed with the city’s help.

“We've been working on it for seven years now, and it needs to be in the city,” he said. “Frankly, it's a better project for the developer if it's in the city. So, it's a mutually beneficial deal.”

City staff estimate the property would bring as much as $3.5 billion in tax revenue over the next 30 years.

Suttle told council a "Fortune 100" company would be the first tenant at the site. He was limited in what he could say because of a non-disclosure agreement, but Suttle said the firm wanted to "move fast." He added that plans did not include a data center or a defense contractor, as some residents speculated.

The tracts’ geography, hemmed in by a meandering section of the Colorado River just east of U.S. Highway 183 and north of State Highway 130, also raised environmental and potential flooding concerns.

Bobby Levinski, an attorney and environmental advocate with Save Our Springs Alliance, said the deal doesn’t allow for typical land-use and zoning protections. Rather than going through city commissions and council, zoning changes could be approved by city staff with little oversight, he said.

“You are going to make changes to one of the most ecologically sensitive stretches of an urban river in the entire state of Texas,” Levinski said. “And you're going to prevent any future council for 45 years from correcting this mistake with one week's notice.”

The agreement would also allow developers to completely pave over the land, if they wanted. The contract has no limit on impervious cover, which could be problematic in a flood plain, opponents argued. Suttle estimated 20% of the site would be paved and that the plan aims to build out more parkland and bike trails.

Ahead of the vote, Mayor Kirk Watson said the city’s hands weren’t completely tied on the deal.

The developer would be required to submit a design plan, along with a list of possible uses for the land, to the city before Austin City Council approved a taxing district to get the project off the ground. On top of that, Watson argued, the city needs the tax money that would come from developing the land.

"My guess is none of us are going to consider this to be a perfect development, but it creates an opportunity, again, a unique one," he said. "There's no question it will be better than what it could be — and probably would be — if it's on the outside of our jurisdiction, if for no other reason, we wouldn't get any of the tax base."
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Old Posted May 27, 2026, 12:58 AM
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i love lockhart. it definitely has a little austin refugee community now, plus a lot of cool stuff happening. but 40 miles out is still 40 miles out. that may feel normal in texas, but it is not normal in a lot of other places, and it comes with real costs. it is worse for the environment, expensive for taxpayers, and it does not actually solve the core problem, which is that people want to live in austin and cannot afford to.

the original commenter was mad because he cannot get a 3 bedroom house with a yard in central austin. at some point, people need to have realistic expectations. if someone genuinely wants to live in lockhart, great. but we should not pretend that pushing people farther and farther out is a good housing strategy. and honestly, i doubt a lot of people in lockhart are thrilled about being turned into a pressure-release valve for austin’s housing policy failures either.
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