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Old Posted Jul 1, 2006, 3:30 PM
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Is 360 Real?

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While there has been some activity on the Novare and Shore sites - neither project has secured financing. They may be spending a few million dollars. If Novare receives funding - Spring will not. The money will wait to see if people will actually "purchase" small units. It may work in Vancouver - Texas is another story.

I've tried to closely monitor all the Austin proposals, recognizing they're only "real" when they have "money." Project money. Not small change to rent a few construction trailers or to do test bores. So far, only AMLI has secured financing.


I attended the 360 ground breaking. Two lenders were thanked among the many team members acknowledged. I didn't catch the names of the financers, but I'm sure if you were to call Taylor he would tell you who they are.

This project is under construction. Major utility (chilled water) tie-ins and foundation work, not test holes. You can't begin construction without a building permit, and you can't get a building permit without construction drawings. It is possible that their permit is for 'shell-only', which would allow them to begin construction while they are fine-tuning unit layouts. They would have to at least have conceptual unit layouts in order to ensure the location of columns, stairs, elevators, shafts, etc. will work.
     
     
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Pomeroy Investment Corp. plans to convert part of the One Commodore building, shown in this artist's rendering, into condominiums in downtown Austin's first condo conversion since the late 1990s.


The top of the 20-story Capitol Tower will get a new, curved crown. The building has been empty since state and city workers left last year.





2 downtown towers poised for makeovers
Pomeroy Investment Corp. will add condos to one, keep other as office tower.
By Shonda Novak

AMERICAN-STATESMAN STAFF


Saturday, July 01, 2006

A Michigan-based firm plans to pump more than $20 million into floor-to-ceiling makeovers of two downtown office buildings, including transforming one into a mixed-use tower with about 80 condominiums.

Pomeroy Investment Corp. paid $24.4 million this week for 14-story One Commodore at 800 Brazos St. and the 20-story Capitol Tower, formerly Two Commodore, at 206 E. Ninth St.


One Commodore will be renamed Brazos Place and will be converted into a tower with condos, offices, shops and possibly a restaurant and bar, said Jerry Reinhart, Pomeroy's president and chief executive.

The project will be the first condominium conversion of a downtown building since the Brazos Lofts, Avenue Lofts and the Railyard condominiums were converted in the late 1990s.

One Commodore was once the Commodore Perry Hotel. It was converted to an office building in 1985 and is now 35 percent occupied.

Capitol Tower has been empty since state and city workers moved out in 2005.

Pomeroy, which bought the buildings from the Shidler Group of San Diego, Calif., plans to start the makeover this summer. The work, which will include a skyline-altering crown for Capitol Tower, is expected to be finished in mid-2007, Reinhart said.

"Austin looks like a very strong market for us for the foreseeable future," Reinhart said. "And we would expect these assets to be our entry into a market that we intend to participate in for the next several years."

Pomeroy's investment underscores Austin's appeal to real estate investors as the market continues its upward trajectory from the tech bust in 2001, which squelched demand for office space and drove down rents and occupancy levels.

For the past year, investment money has been pouring into downtown.

The 23-story 300 West Sixth office tower sold in October for $131.7 million — a record $295 a square foot.

And in May, Cousins Properties Inc. put Austin's newest office building, Frost Bank Tower, up for sale with company executives citing "a very strong market" for first-class office buildings.

Reinhart said they have been contacted by companies expressing interest in leasing space in Capitol Tower, including technology firms and financial institutions.

"Although we recognize that the Austin market has strong demand presently, we have even been surprised at how quickly we have had activity on this building," Reinhart said.

With a tightening office market, Pomeroy now will have one of the largest contiguous blocks of available space in downtown in its Capitol Tower. The building's 736 parking spaces — a ratio of more than four spaces per 1,000 square feet — represents the highest parking ratio among downtown buildings, Reinhart said.

With unobstructed views of the Capitol and the University of Texas, Capitol Tower will be the first of the two office buildings to be remodeled, with renovations to its facade, lobby, garage and mechanical systems. The tower also will be topped with a new, curved crown.

"It will make Capitol Tower a piece of the city skyline," said Kim Burgess, project manager for Pomeroy. The building will keep its name and remain an office building, with existing tenants including Comerica Bank and GTE Mobilnet.

Brazos Place, meanwhile, will be renovated inside and out. Private balconies will be added, and the facade and lobby will get a face-lift.

Condominiums will be added on eight floors; they will be priced between $200,000 and $400,000, Reinhart said. The building also will have up to four floors of office and retail space.

Reinhart said the company's plans don't call for adding on to either building, though he didn't rule it out.

"It's part of our strategy to bring an asset to its highest and best use, and if there's an opportunity to add square footage, we would consider that," he said.



A changing downtown

Development in downtown Austin is heating up as the Central Texas economy continues its upward trajectory.

Sold

Chase Tower, 221 W. Sixth St., between $66 million and $68 million. Buyers were Austin-based Endeavor Real Estate Group and California-based Triple Net Properties LLC.

300 West Sixth, a 23-story office tower at West Sixth and Lavaca streets, for $131.7 million. The buyer was Chicago-based Equity Office Properties Trust.

On the market

Frost Bank Tower, a 33-story office building at Congress Avenue and Fourth Street.

Under construction

AMLI Residential Properties Trust, an 18-story, 232-unit luxury apartment complex on Second Street between Guadalupe and San Antonio streets.

360, a 44-story condominium tower at Third and Nueces streets.

The Shore, a 22-story, 192-unit condominium project at Red River and Davis streets.

Courtyard by Marriott and a Residence Inn by Marriott on East Fourth Street near the Austin Convention Center.
     
     
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Wow, now that looks soooooo much better! Who would have thunk that you could take an old radio telescope, plop it on top of Austin's ugliest highrise and, POOF! A beautiful new look!
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To me the funniest poster here is LookingUp. He lives in a very special world, a priviledged place. The rules in his world are simple... if he doesn't (1) know about it, and/or (2) approve of it, then it must not exist. His posts are more than facts, they are unassailable proclamations.

It's funny to me because, as I sit here inside a Milago condo, which is completely sold out by the way, which I paid for by borrowing from "a banker", and which handily appraised well in excess of $300/sq ft, something is amiss. I am a living contradiction in Lookingup's world and therefore I must not exist either.
     
     
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Old Posted Jul 2, 2006, 1:17 AM
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To me the funniest poster here is LookingUp. He lives in a very special world, a priviledged place. The rules in his world are simple... if he doesn't (1) know about it, and/or (2) approve of it, then it must not exist. His posts are more than facts, they are unassailable proclamations.

It's funny to me because, as I sit here inside a Milago condo, which is completely sold out by the way, which I paid for by borrowing from "a banker", and which handily appraised well in excess of $300/sq ft, something is amiss. I am a living contradiction in Lookingup's world and therefore I must not exist either.

Hey How is your place? Lookingup seems to emply that the Milago was built crappy so how is the inside look. Does the building seem to be built with cheap materials?
     
     
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I dont live in "downtown" but I live in a condo in Clarkesville overlooking Lamar near 12th street that is about 700 Sq ft 1/1. According to looking up this qualifies as an apartment. Yet, its huge for one person. I cant imagine what I would do with 1000 sq ft 1/1.

So, while I dont live in Milago I live in a similar size condo, and I think its perfect. I would make my bedroom smaller and put more of the square footage in my living room, but thats just my preference.. any bigger and it would seem empty.
     
     
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Hey How is your place? Lookingup seems to emply that the Milago was built crappy so how is the inside look. Does the building seem to be built with cheap materials?
Well, luckily I have had several innoculations and am on medication to prevent EIFS maladies, haha...

So far, two or three floors of occupants have moved in... one floor every couple of weeks, probably fully done by September.

I would describe the interior as modern, functional, clean, and complimentary to the park/lake views -- not marketed as a "luxury" condo. Dark granite countertops with contrasting light walnut cabinet with stainless hardware, stainless GE Profile bottom mount fridge and appliances, large island kitchen, 5 fixture master bathroom, glass shower door, tile flooring (wood in the LR and BRs). Bathroom leads to large walk-in closet. Lots of storage throughout. (I have a 2/2, both with walk in closets and extra linen closets). Very large west facing horizontal sliding 6' double pane windows & patio door.

I had the place painted, and added custom solar shades and nice window treatments, and a front-load stackable W/D. I have one of the units with a large walkout patio. Landscaped beds and heavy steel wire fencing separate it from the large common terrace which overlooks the park/lake and has a sunset view. It also catches the afternoon heat so the solar shades are very helpful. Mornings are peaceful and cool - perfect for coffee and the paper.

The best feature, and probably the #1 reason supporting the above-$300/sq ft price, is of course the location. The hike/bike trail is perhaps 20 steps from the back door. And as I type this, the western sun is setting after the rain storm and I am being treated to another private showing of the Austin freetail bat colony, wheeling and peeling out over town lake by the thousands. Their flight path brings them alongside and right above Milago. I will look forward to photographing them from the top of the building when it is open later this Summer.

Extras are not all yet in place but will include 2 garage parking places and more garage storage. The common areas are jazzily dressed up with painted concrete floors, design and lighting touches, and spare, modern furnishings. There is a nicely equipped weightroom (new Precor and free weight capabilities). I think a large flat screen TV will be installed in a bar-cafe room. The rooftop terrace with a pool should open in the Summer. And the afore-mentioned terrace just outside my patio will have a nice fountain, large gas grill, and a few benches (and supposedly free wi-fi).

There are additional things that are needed -- lighting is minimal... pre-wired for 3 ceiling fans and I've seen a unit with pre-selected fans installed and they look modern and stylish. Two rows of track lighting for the Kit and DR, I would like some under-cabinet lighting, for instance. I would have preferred the A/C and water heater to be moved out of the master BR (but the door is insulated/soundproofed and the units are quiet and efficient, it's mainly a matter of airflow management which happens to be something I tend to focus on more than others). Walls are quiet between units but not completely isolated (like a Ritz Carlton). And it is an urban hi-rise unit which attracts a predictable mix of buyers, so one has to be OK with comings and goings of other residents at various hours. Perhaps at $400/sq ft one might have more isolation.

If there is anything that seems underwhelming, to my tastes, I would probably point to the landscaping. Myrtles, nandina and yucca all tightly packed in the same small beds, while 30' wide stretches are sparsely planted with lillies. More imagination and better use of Texas heat-loving native plants and shrubs (even good old rosemary and lantana) could have broken up the visual play of stone, plant, and steel along the terrace and across the front entrance. And the re-planting of the grassy areas near the lake/path at the extreme southern end of the building feature perhaps a dozen new trees planted beneath the canopies of very large pecans... trees planted in full shade.

I don't know if this answered your question...

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Make sure whoever is in control of maintenance (condo association maybe?) is on top of keeping the EIFS in a coated and sealed condition. Most of the EIFS projects that I have seen on need a re-coating and sealing about every 5 years to look good and maintain its weather sealing ability. Make sure any tears in the EIFS is fixed quickly, if left to get water in there mold is known to spread quickly behind the styrofoam panels.

If the maintenance is good then you really shouldn't have too much trouble with but most of the time it is ignored until it is in a catstrophic state. I try to use EIFS only as a decorative element on a more permanent construction, but that is also trying to reduce the potential of liability. I had an architect tell me once the key to keeping clients happy is to make sure you keep water out of the building and away from the entry.
     
     
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I'm not sure if these renderings have been posted before, but here they are anyway. I've seen the Urban 303 development in all the compilation lists but I'm not sure what its status is.

Renderings...
http://www.olivegrovepartners.com/archdescrip.html

A more realistic rendering...
http://www.olivegrovepartners.com/images/303rendering02-09-05.jpg

Perhaps someone could find a way to post all of these renderings. I tried but it turned out to be too complicated, especially the last rendering which is very large.
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Whoa, how am I going to model that, (Capitol Tower)?

Haha, cool design. It reminds me of some of the rooftop designs in China.
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redirector...you also have, IMO, one of the best locations in downtown Austin. Within walking distance of all downtown has to offer, but away from a lot of the noise. Also, you're right on top of the trail. Each building will have its pluses and minuses, but a big part of value continues to be rooted in location, location, location...
     
     
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Well, luckily I have had several innoculations and am on medication to prevent EIFS maladies, haha...

So far, two or three floors of occupants have moved in... one floor every couple of weeks, probably fully done by September.

I would describe the interior as modern, functional, clean, and complimentary to the park/lake views -- not marketed as a "luxury" condo. Dark granite countertops with contrasting light walnut cabinet with stainless hardware, stainless GE Profile bottom mount fridge and appliances, large island kitchen, 5 fixture master bathroom, glass shower door, tile flooring (wood in the LR and BRs). Bathroom leads to large walk-in closet. Lots of storage throughout. (I have a 2/2, both with walk in closets and extra linen closets). Very large west facing horizontal sliding 6' double pane windows & patio door.

I had the place painted, and added custom solar shades and nice window treatments, and a front-load stackable W/D. I have one of the units with a large walkout patio. Landscaped beds and heavy steel wire fencing separate it from the large common terrace which overlooks the park/lake and has a sunset view. It also catches the afternoon heat so the solar shades are very helpful. Mornings are peaceful and cool - perfect for coffee and the paper.

The best feature, and probably the #1 reason supporting the above-$300/sq ft price, is of course the location. The hike/bike trail is perhaps 20 steps from the back door. And as I type this, the western sun is setting after the rain storm and I am being treated to another private showing of the Austin freetail bat colony, wheeling and peeling out over town lake by the thousands. Their flight path brings them alongside and right above Milago. I will look forward to photographing them from the top of the building when it is open later this Summer.

Extras are not all yet in place but will include 2 garage parking places and more garage storage. The common areas are jazzily dressed up with painted concrete floors, design and lighting touches, and spare, modern furnishings. There is a nicely equipped weightroom (new Precor and free weight capabilities). I think a large flat screen TV will be installed in a bar-cafe room. The rooftop terrace with a pool should open in the Summer. And the afore-mentioned terrace just outside my patio will have a nice fountain, large gas grill, and a few benches (and supposedly free wi-fi).

There are additional things that are needed -- lighting is minimal... pre-wired for 3 ceiling fans and I've seen a unit with pre-selected fans installed and they look modern and stylish. Two rows of track lighting for the Kit and DR, I would like some under-cabinet lighting, for instance. I would have preferred the A/C and water heater to be moved out of the master BR (but the door is insulated/soundproofed and the units are quiet and efficient, it's mainly a matter of airflow management which happens to be something I tend to focus on more than others). Walls are quiet between units but not completely isolated (like a Ritz Carlton). And it is an urban hi-rise unit which attracts a predictable mix of buyers, so one has to be OK with comings and goings of other residents at various hours. Perhaps at $400/sq ft one might have more isolation.

If there is anything that seems underwhelming, to my tastes, I would probably point to the landscaping. Myrtles, nandina and yucca all tightly packed in the same small beds, while 30' wide stretches are sparsely planted with lillies. More imagination and better use of Texas heat-loving native plants and shrubs (even good old rosemary and lantana) could have broken up the visual play of stone, plant, and steel along the terrace and across the front entrance. And the re-planting of the grassy areas near the lake/path at the extreme southern end of the building feature perhaps a dozen new trees planted beneath the canopies of very large pecans... trees planted in full shade.

I don't know if this answered your question...
The wife and I have kept a close eye on construction since ground breaking, sneaking up to have a look around when time and opportunity permited. The location is absolutely perfect, sans 35. But from Milago you don't notice it one bit. It is not until you actually drive on 35 do you realize how close it is. Really not an issue at all though. I think the construction is as expected. My two complaints would be that the kitchen cabinetry is finished on the outside in wood, but not on the inside. When you open the doors, white plastic is revealed. Nothing earth shattering there, but I can't imagine it being that much more expensive just to finish the inside. My last and final complaint is the screens they used on the balconies and other areas to keep people out. It has a bit of a jail-like presentation. why they chose this I can't fathom? I think we'll probably end up seeing a lot of people hanging flowers or growing vines over these steel mesh screens to hide them. As far as the location of the air-conditioner - I think it depends on the units layout, not all have the air handlers in this location. We stopped by the party Milago gave and saw a very wide range of people that will be moving in, ranging from very young, to people who are well into their retirement age.
     
     
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Great Review of Milago Apartments

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Well, luckily I have had several innoculations and am on medication to prevent EIFS maladies, haha...

So far, two or three floors of occupants have moved in... one floor every couple of weeks, probably fully done by September.

I would describe the interior as modern, functional, clean, and complimentary to the park/lake views -- not marketed as a "luxury" condo. Dark granite countertops with contrasting light walnut cabinet with stainless hardware, stainless GE Profile bottom mount fridge and appliances, large island kitchen, 5 fixture master bathroom, glass shower door, tile flooring (wood in the LR and BRs). Bathroom leads to large walk-in closet. Lots of storage throughout. (I have a 2/2, both with walk in closets and extra linen closets). Very large west facing horizontal sliding 6' double pane windows & patio door.

I had the place painted, and added custom solar shades and nice window treatments, and a front-load stackable W/D. I have one of the units with a large walkout patio. Landscaped beds and heavy steel wire fencing separate it from the large common terrace which overlooks the park/lake and has a sunset view. It also catches the afternoon heat so the solar shades are very helpful. Mornings are peaceful and cool - perfect for coffee and the paper.

The best feature, and probably the #1 reason supporting the above-$300/sq ft price, is of course the location. The hike/bike trail is perhaps 20 steps from the back door. And as I type this, the western sun is setting after the rain storm and I am being treated to another private showing of the Austin freetail bat colony, wheeling and peeling out over town lake by the thousands. Their flight path brings them alongside and right above Milago. I will look forward to photographing them from the top of the building when it is open later this Summer.

Extras are not all yet in place but will include 2 garage parking places and more garage storage. The common areas are jazzily dressed up with painted concrete floors, design and lighting touches, and spare, modern furnishings. There is a nicely equipped weightroom (new Precor and free weight capabilities). I think a large flat screen TV will be installed in a bar-cafe room. The rooftop terrace with a pool should open in the Summer. And the afore-mentioned terrace just outside my patio will have a nice fountain, large gas grill, and a few benches (and supposedly free wi-fi).

There are additional things that are needed -- lighting is minimal... pre-wired for 3 ceiling fans and I've seen a unit with pre-selected fans installed and they look modern and stylish. Two rows of track lighting for the Kit and DR, I would like some under-cabinet lighting, for instance. I would have preferred the A/C and water heater to be moved out of the master BR (but the door is insulated/soundproofed and the units are quiet and efficient, it's mainly a matter of airflow management which happens to be something I tend to focus on more than others). Walls are quiet between units but not completely isolated (like a Ritz Carlton). And it is an urban hi-rise unit which attracts a predictable mix of buyers, so one has to be OK with comings and goings of other residents at various hours. Perhaps at $400/sq ft one might have more isolation.

If there is anything that seems underwhelming, to my tastes, I would probably point to the landscaping. Myrtles, nandina and yucca all tightly packed in the same small beds, while 30' wide stretches are sparsely planted with lillies. More imagination and better use of Texas heat-loving native plants and shrubs (even good old rosemary and lantana) could have broken up the visual play of stone, plant, and steel along the terrace and across the front entrance. And the re-planting of the grassy areas near the lake/path at the extreme southern end of the building feature perhaps a dozen new trees planted beneath the canopies of very large pecans... trees planted in full shade.

I don't know if this answered your question...
Great, objective review. Enjoy your home. It does have a premier location.

The finish is very similar to Gables or Amli rental properties. At $250 PSF it's a good deal. There's a huge market in Austin for these prices -just don't call it "luxury."

I have only suggested that Spring and Novare 360 better not try to create a the same product and expect $400 PSF. Neither proposal has released floorplans or finshes. Novare has great amenities and of course Spring is already famous for having "no amenities."

We'll see.
     
     
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I dont live in "downtown" but I live in a condo in Clarkesville overlooking Lamar near 12th street that is about 700 Sq ft 1/1. According to looking up this qualifies as an apartment. Yet, its huge for one person. I cant imagine what I would do with 1000 sq ft 1/1.

So, while I dont live in Milago I live in a similar size condo, and I think its perfect. I would make my bedroom smaller and put more of the square footage in my living room, but thats just my preference.. any bigger and it would seem empty.
Just wait until you see the Spring and Novare floorplans. Many of the "master bedrooms" are only 10 ft. by 12 ft. (in some cases even smaller). I've seen Spring's floorplans - I don't think people will like them. Milago Apartments are even better (more space). But, we'll have to wait and see what the buyers think.
     
     
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Great, objective review. Enjoy your home. It does have a premier location.

The finish is very similar to Gables or Amli rental properties. At $250 PSF it's a good deal. There's a huge market in Austin for these prices -just don't call it "luxury."

I have only suggested that Spring and Novare 360 better not try to create a the same product and expect $400 PSF. Neither proposal has released floorplans or finshes. Novare has great amenities and of course Spring is already famous for having "no amenities."

We'll see.
In my experience, true apartments are much noisier in build quality -- one can hear plumbing pipes, drainage, people walking above you, noise through the adjacent walls. This is much more sound-proofed than an apartment. Rentals typically are carpeted vs wood floors, the appliances are two grades below... 3 fixture bathrooms are normal... heavy acoustic spray ceilings, etc.

I don't know the total average PSF but there are units at Milago in the $250 PSF range... PSF value found on East units, and appropriate premiums placed on south, north or west-facing locations and upper floor views will gain in PSF.

On the other hand, let's watch this listing... http://www.eraclassictx.com/listings/x31uo3rb4fmp.shtml

Judging from the view out the living room window, it appears to be a 4th or 5th floor unit -- 2/2 priced at $439k as a re-sale of a 1168sq ft new unit. I think this is potentially a $50k premium vs original asking price if it is a North or West-facing unit, but if it's an East-facing, it would be closer to $100k. In any event it is priced at $375 PSF.
     
     
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Well, luckily I have had several innoculations and am on medication to prevent EIFS maladies, haha...

So far, two or three floors of occupants have moved in... one floor every couple of weeks, probably fully done by September.

I would describe the interior as modern, functional, clean, and complimentary to the park/lake views -- not marketed as a "luxury" condo. Dark granite countertops with contrasting light walnut cabinet with stainless hardware, stainless GE Profile bottom mount fridge and appliances, large island kitchen, 5 fixture master bathroom, glass shower door, tile flooring (wood in the LR and BRs). Bathroom leads to large walk-in closet. Lots of storage throughout. (I have a 2/2, both with walk in closets and extra linen closets). Very large west facing horizontal sliding 6' double pane windows & patio door.

I had the place painted, and added custom solar shades and nice window treatments, and a front-load stackable W/D. I have one of the units with a large walkout patio. Landscaped beds and heavy steel wire fencing separate it from the large common terrace which overlooks the park/lake and has a sunset view. It also catches the afternoon heat so the solar shades are very helpful. Mornings are peaceful and cool - perfect for coffee and the paper.

The best feature, and probably the #1 reason supporting the above-$300/sq ft price, is of course the location. The hike/bike trail is perhaps 20 steps from the back door. And as I type this, the western sun is setting after the rain storm and I am being treated to another private showing of the Austin freetail bat colony, wheeling and peeling out over town lake by the thousands. Their flight path brings them alongside and right above Milago. I will look forward to photographing them from the top of the building when it is open later this Summer.

Extras are not all yet in place but will include 2 garage parking places and more garage storage. The common areas are jazzily dressed up with painted concrete floors, design and lighting touches, and spare, modern furnishings. There is a nicely equipped weightroom (new Precor and free weight capabilities). I think a large flat screen TV will be installed in a bar-cafe room. The rooftop terrace with a pool should open in the Summer. And the afore-mentioned terrace just outside my patio will have a nice fountain, large gas grill, and a few benches (and supposedly free wi-fi).

There are additional things that are needed -- lighting is minimal... pre-wired for 3 ceiling fans and I've seen a unit with pre-selected fans installed and they look modern and stylish. Two rows of track lighting for the Kit and DR, I would like some under-cabinet lighting, for instance. I would have preferred the A/C and water heater to be moved out of the master BR (but the door is insulated/soundproofed and the units are quiet and efficient, it's mainly a matter of airflow management which happens to be something I tend to focus on more than others). Walls are quiet between units but not completely isolated (like a Ritz Carlton). And it is an urban hi-rise unit which attracts a predictable mix of buyers, so one has to be OK with comings and goings of other residents at various hours. Perhaps at $400/sq ft one might have more isolation.

If there is anything that seems underwhelming, to my tastes, I would probably point to the landscaping. Myrtles, nandina and yucca all tightly packed in the same small beds, while 30' wide stretches are sparsely planted with lillies. More imagination and better use of Texas heat-loving native plants and shrubs (even good old rosemary and lantana) could have broken up the visual play of stone, plant, and steel along the terrace and across the front entrance. And the re-planting of the grassy areas near the lake/path at the extreme southern end of the building feature perhaps a dozen new trees planted beneath the canopies of very large pecans... trees planted in full shade.

I don't know if this answered your question...
Yes thank you, overall sounds very nice...
     
     
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NEVER LIVED IN CONDO! 2BDRMS 2 FULL BATHS. GRAINTE COUNTERTOPS, HARDWOOD FLOORS, AND STAINLESS STEEL APPLIANCES. UNIT LOCATED ON THE SAME FLOOR AS THE BUILDING TERRACE WHICH OVERLOOKS JOGGING TRAIL AND TOWN LAKE. Sq. Ft 1168 2/2

Annual taxes $11,000 - I thought a tax break was being given by the city for a short period?? How did they come up with this number?



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Here's another....

NEVER LIVED IN CONDO! 2BDRMS 2 FULL BATHS. GRAINTE COUNTERTOPS, HARDWOOD FLOORS, AND STAINLESS STEEL APPLIANCES. UNIT LOCATED ON THE SAME FLOOR AS THE BUILDING TERRACE WHICH OVERLOOKS JOGGING TRAIL AND TOWN LAKE. Sq. Ft 1168 2/2

Annual taxes $11,000 - I thought a tax break was being given by the city for a short period?? How did they come up with this number?

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Whoa! I thought at first that $11,000 was a typo, so I did a search for all comparable condos in the downtown area currently on the market. Seems to be pretty consistent. Hope the newcomers to downtown are prepared for that shocker. The logic for moving there might be lost for some condo owners when they discover they have no disposable income to enjoy what downtown has to offer.
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In my experience, true apartments are much noisier in build quality -- one can hear plumbing pipes, drainage, people walking above you, noise through the adjacent walls. This is much more sound-proofed than an apartment. Rentals typically are carpeted vs wood floors, the appliances are two grades below... 3 fixture bathrooms are normal... heavy acoustic spray ceilings, etc.
I'm living in a highrise condo in DC. Seemed to be a very solid building when I moved in. Floors are all thick concrete with hardwood over them. But, let me tell you, I hear every step the woman above me makes with those heels of hers. I hear when a neighbor sneezes or snores, I hear the alarm clock in the unit across the hall in the morning, TV's in other units, and can even hear when someone's taking a leak in a neighboring unit.

I've had this discussion with friends living in other condo buildings throughout the metro region, and this has been a consistent complaint. Pretty much what we're finding is that building standards between condos and apartments are not that different.

Check out this article from a Minneapolis TV station: "Luxury" Condos Don't Always Turn Out That Way
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Whoa! I thought at first that $11,000 was a typo, so I did a search for all comparable condos in the downtown area currently on the market. Seems to be pretty consistent. Hope the newcomers to downtown are prepared for that shocker. The logic for moving there might be lost for some condo owners when they discover they have no disposable income to enjoy what downtown has to offer.
We don't have state tax in Texas. We just get gouged on property tax:

Typical breakdown:

Austin ISD 1.623%
Travis County 0.4872%
Austin Comm College 0.0900%
City of Austin 0.4430%
Travis Co Hospital Dist 0.0779%

Total 2.7211% of Market value of property
     
     
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