The Official Saint John, NB Project Thread

[ColSJ]

Originally Posted by cdnguys

Yes someone I know said they saw video.

Last I heard they weren’t arriving till 2023.

[homebody]

Originally Posted by cdnguys

Now that shows confidence in the Saint John marketplace - increasing the height on buildings !

Sorry but amI missing something? I thought the old proposal was for 200 units in 3 buildings. The new proposal calls for the same amount of units but in 4 buildings. Did I misread or misunderstand something?

[Pugsley]

Originally Posted by DyAm00394

MP Wayne Long said in a online post this morning that "so many BIG announcements coming for the riding". Looking forward to hearing what they are.

https://www.facebook.com/WayneLongMP/pos...ukRiZs9QuoLjBM2yfdZjBogsr2W3XC6JochYqTvl

I'm not going to cancel any appointments and use vacation time to wait with bated breath for any announcements from an NB politician. He wrote that after being in Ottawa for a few days, so that is what he has to post to justify the expense being there.

As for all the drama and news with secret council meetings, school location controversy, and Q-ANON-ESQUE Irving Museum influence conspiracy nonsense these days...

Just get it done people. I mean, who the frack cares???

I think we need to fire all of the journalists in this province and replace them. I know, that sounds very Trump-esque but I feel like the local journalists here (especially in Saint John) like to "make up controversies" as opposed to actually reporting on important issues. I mean, do you think the Irving family sits around each night after a hard day at the office to plot some grandiose takeover of a not-for-profit cultural institution which a) does not fit their business model, and b) makes no money?

Further, do you think that when a mayor says "no comment" it might be because there is a legitimate legal requirement to not have a comment or disclose details on something? Some things are strategic and bound by confidentiality clauses. It doesn't mean the Mayor is corrupt or there is some back-door effort underway to bulldoze the entire south end to put up another Kent store. Just calm the frack down...and journalists...find something more important to cover...like the doctor shortage or homelessness.

Sorry for rant. I'm just getting tired of the same "hyped up" news cycle these days.

[cdnguys]

Originally Posted by Pugsley

I'm not going to cancel any appointments and use vacation time to wait with bated breath for any announcements from an NB politician. He wrote that after being in Ottawa for a few days, so that is what he has to post to justify the expense being there.

As for all the drama and news with secret council meetings, school location controversy, and Q-ANON-ESQUE Irving Museum influence conspiracy nonsense these days...

Just get it done people. I mean, who the frack cares???

I think we need to fire all of the journalists in this province and replace them. I know, that sounds very Trump-esque but I feel like the local journalists here (especially in Saint John) like to "make up controversies" as opposed to actually reporting on important issues. I mean, do you think the Irving family sits around each night after a hard day at the office to plot some grandiose takeover of a not-for-profit cultural institution which a) does not fit their business model, and b) makes no money?

Further, do you think that when a mayor says "no comment" it might be because there is a legitimate legal requirement to not have a comment or disclose details on something? Some things are strategic and bound by confidentiality clauses. It doesn't mean the Mayor is corrupt or there is some back-door effort underway to bulldoze the entire south end to put up another Kent store. Just calm the frack down...and journalists...find something more important to cover...like the doctor shortage or homelessness.

Sorry for rant. I'm just getting tired of the same "hyped up" news cycle these days.

Yes you don’t need to be Captain Obvious to know mayor and council had to be tight lipped for a good reason.

[DyAm00394]

Originally Posted by DyAm00394

MP Wayne Long said in a online post this morning that "so many BIG announcements coming for the riding". Looking forward to hearing what they are.

https://www.facebook.com/WayneLongMP/pos...ukRiZs9QuoLjBM2yfdZjBogsr2W3XC6JochYqTvl

He is teasing about this again:

"Very busy on many transformational projects. I’m just so excited for the riding. You’ll see. 😉"

https://www.facebook.com/WayneLongMP/pos...FFkMRfreQDvhVcVt2ChSAKQgok87zcAts8PGNJil

[JHikka]

Originally Posted by Pugsley

As for all the drama and news with secret council meetings, school location controversy, and Q-ANON-ESQUE Irving Museum influence conspiracy nonsense these days...

Just get it done people. I mean, who the frack cares???

I think we need to fire all of the journalists in this province and replace them. I know, that sounds very Trump-esque but I feel like the local journalists here (especially in Saint John) like to "make up controversies" as opposed to actually reporting on important issues.

Impressive that you're able to nearly connect two items into one salient resolution. When media is monopolized, including in the post-secondary institution that graduates journalism students, it becomes quite easy to churn out reporters and journalists tailored for whatever might be needed by the monopoly-owning interest. Do we not remember the front page of the TJ the day after the refinery blew up? This among a literal endless slew of other media stories written from a specific standpoint.

Firing journalists isn't a good solution for anything. They should be provided more independence and authority to dictate stories they can cover without being targeted or criticized, one way or another. I don't think the press is incredibly free in NB and hasn't been for quite some time, and suggesting that journalists be 'fired' simply creates even less freedom of press than what little we already have. I don't dare ask who you think they should be replaced with.

[Pugsley]

Originally Posted by JHikka

Firing journalists isn't a good solution for anything. They should be provided more independence and authority to dictate stories they can cover without being targeted or criticized, one way or another. I don't think the press is incredibly free in NB and hasn't been for quite some time, and suggesting that journalists be 'fired' simply creates even less freedom of press than what little we already have. I don't dare ask who you think they should be replaced with.

I am being facetious. I certainly don't think we should fire our journalists. My point is that there is an awful lot of drama in stories these days to make a headline or grab attention as opposed to it being truly "a story". In that context, we need better journalists who write about and cover real issues, not trying to create something out of nothing. Things of real importance like the housing crisis, doctor shortages, homelessness, or something that is actually impacting the lives of people. A story about the Irvings and how they may or may not be influencing the museum or trying to imply some degree of misconduct by elected officials for having "no comment" on something isn't journalism, it is sensationalism. That's all.

[Joe]

Originally Posted by ColSJ

Last I heard they weren’t arriving till 2023.

An article in the TJ says the new container pier will go into operation early 2023, the cranes will be arriving late January 2023

[adamuptownsj]

Palmer Brook Storage and In Motion Storage owners opening their third facility at Commerce and Loch Lomond, on this parcel: https://paol-efel.snb.ca/paol.html?v=1.0.81&lang=en&pan=05180392

I presume they will part out and sell the portions of this lot on the west side of Commerce. AllAtlantic mentions this storage facility will have drive-up units, so there's not enough space anywhere other than the western and largest portion.

[CharlotteCountyLogan]

The CEO of the port wrote a year in review in which he says the port has moved 140k TEUs and that the new cranes are expected to be in Saint John by the end of January. Just looking at the port it seems to be bursting at the seams so new cranes and continuing to fill in the slips will be good.

[DyAm00394]

A common council meeting is tonight at 6pm. There is a public hearing date set for February 6th, 2023 for 661 Dever Road on the west side.
They will be converting the existing day care centre into a retail space and constructing a multi-building, 52-unit residential development.

[ColSJ]

There is also mention of The United Church’s housing plan at Portland United. Townhouses and a 4 storey apartment building. Estimated total value of $20 million and an expected start date Spring 2023. Development will last up to 16 months.

[DyAm00394]

Originally Posted by ColSJ

There is also mention of The United Church’s housing plan at Portland United. Townhouses and a 4 storey apartment building. Estimated total value of $20 million and an expected start date Spring 2023. Development will last up to 16 months.

Also shows that Newport Crescent will be extended to connect up with Ropewalk Road. Looking forward to this new big development. Awesome to see a fast start of Spring 2023.

https://pub-saintjohn.escribemeetings.co...7YEMCPm_FWOlnF_E2UtvKU-CUbdBU-jxj56mNpzU

[darkharbour]

That area around the hill is going to explode in population with these new developments on all sides, it's going to be fantastic for driving the city's growth in the corridor between Uptown and the employment centre that is UNB and the hospital.

[KnoxfordGuy]

From Port Saint John. A rendering of what the new crains will look like. Sorry for the massive size


The current state of the construction from the Port Saint John Twitter page:

[DyAm00394]

NBCC Saint John campus to receive $45.9 million for upgrades

” SAINT JOHN (GNB) – The provincial and federal governments today announced $45.9 million in joint funding for building retrofits to make them energy efficient and upgrades on the Saint John campus of the New Brunswick Community College (NBCC).

“The need for training in the skilled trades has never been greater than it is right now,” said Glen Savoie, minister responsible for la Francophonie. “That is why this investment in upgrades to training spaces and to make the campus more modern, energy efficient and welcoming is so important. When students graduate from high school, we want NBCC to be a school of choice.”

Savoie spoke on behalf of Réjean Savoie, minister responsible for the Regional Development Corporation.

The funding will support the expansion of the Industrial Trades Education Centre, upgrades to training spaces, the installation of five new electric vehicle charging stations and the decommissioning of existing buildings to accommodate the construction of a new courtyard. New additions to campus will include a lobby, an atrium, a learning common and a student services centre.

“Investments in infrastructure are investments in strong and sustainable communities,” said Saint John-Rothesay MP Wayne Long. “Green energy retrofits and building upgrades on NBCC’s Saint John campus will support a clean and sustainable future for students and residents alike. Green initiatives like this one will help local economies grow and build more resilient communities across the country.”

Long attended for federal Intergovernmental Affairs, Infrastructure and Communities Minister Dominic LeBlanc.

The federal and provincial governments are each investing about $22.9 million into the project.

“This announcement is the result of a community-wide effort to address New Brunswick’s labour market challenges,” said Mary Butler, president and CEO of NBCC. “The redevelopment does more than address today’s needs; we will increase training capacity and overall efficiency while decreasing our physical footprint, annual operating costs, and deferred maintenance.”

https://www2.gnb.ca/content/gnb/en/news/...7AEZbFpqMNgcsBD3HNqMGuSSA8afiOumK-9mOpkg

[DyAm00394]

Another infrastructure announcement for Monday, December 19th at 100 Tucker Park Road. Premier Blaine Higgs and federal Intergovernmental Affairs, Infrastructure and Communities Minister Dominic LeBlanc will participate. https://www2.gnb.ca/content/gnb/en/news/media_advisories/media_advisory.2022.12.0717.html

Wayne Long also posted on social media today that he has a lot more federal investments coming.

[ColSJ]

Originally Posted by DyAm00394

Another infrastructure announcement for Monday, December 19th at 100 Tucker Park Road. Premier Blaine Higgs and federal Intergovernmental Affairs, Infrastructure and Communities Minister Dominic LeBlanc will participate. https://www2.gnb.ca/content/gnb/en/news/media_advisories/media_advisory.2022.12.0717.html

Wayne Long also posted on social media today that he has a lot more federal investments coming.

Likely the IHI thing at UNBSJ. I know securing funding before the new year was critical for the project to move forward this spring and someone whom I spoke to involved with the project said they were confident they would get it.

[DyAm00394]

Health and Social Innovation Centre to be built at the University of New Brunswick’s Saint John campus

“SAINT JOHN (GNB) – Federal, provincial and university officials today announced $38 million in funding for construction of the Health and Social Innovation Centre at the University of New Brunswick’s (UNB) Saint John campus.

“We are investing in state-of-the-art infrastructure that will support the growth of the health sciences and technology sector in the province,” said Premier Blaine Higgs. “This centre will be home to a new four-year interdisciplinary undergraduate program in health, as well as a research facility for scientists, innovators and entrepreneurs. This is an important development in the transformation of New Brunswick’s health-care sector.”

The project involves the demolition of the vacant Ward Chipman Library and the construction of a new 5,850 sq. metre (65,000 sq. feet), three and a half-story building that will become the new Health and Social Innovation Centre.

The new building, overlooking the campus quad and the Kennebecasis River, will be connected to nearby walking paths, an underground tunnel system and a ring road. The centre will be the foundation for the proposed Health and Technology District in Saint John.

“Canadians have long been pioneers in the field of health-care research,” said federal Intergovernmental Affairs, Infrastructure and Communities Minister Dominic LeBlanc. “There is a tradition of excellence and innovation that lives here – and through this partnership with the Government of New Brunswick and UNB Saint John, we are building on that legacy. All New Brunswickers and all Canadians will benefit from the work that will take place in this new facility.”

The provincial government is investing $12 million toward the project and the federal government is investing $15.2 million. The university is providing $10.8 million.

“The Health and Social Innovation Centre is the hub for UNB’s Integrated Health Initiative, an ambitious program designed to transform health care through education, research, partnerships, innovation and knowledge transfer,” said university president and vice-chancellor Paul J. Mazerolle. “The federal and provincial governments’ support demonstrates that they share our vision of a Saint John-based centre of excellence with impact for our province, Atlantic Canada, as well as all of Canada.”

The centre will offer numerous community programs. In addition, the building will feature prominent green space highlighted by a healing garden to support healing, truth and reconciliation between Indigenous and settler communities. It will be designed and built to maintain a low carbon footprint through green building standards and aim for a Leadership in Energy and Environmental Design (LEED) certification”.

https://www2.gnb.ca/content/gnb/en/news/...g0YhXEquPpFbH7Ip1xS6aNxXVCWEBXtzVdeox3NA

[ColSJ]

From what I understand the funding announced today is for the construction of this building.




Lark Group the private contributor to the project will be constructing this building.



This would count as Phase 1 which according to the UNB website will attract up to 50 new businesses, create an estimated 1,000 new jobs and bring $50 million to the Saint John region economy annually.

Phase 2 and 3 will bring about another $70 million in private sector investment and create more 2500 jobs.