Tempe Development Thread - Page 65

vertex · #**1281** Posted **Nov 6, 2007, 4:35 PM**

Maybe Michael Monti is still lurking here, and read my rant...

j/k

For those of you new to the board, Michael actually did post to this thread (regarding the La Casa) back in March. So it's not like we're just screaming into the aether...

NIXPHX77 · #**1282** Posted **Nov 6, 2007, 4:48 PM**

Thank you Mr. Monti and all the preservationists who spoke out against the original plan. i think this compromise will be a win-win for everyone.

Sekkle · #**1283** Posted **Nov 6, 2007, 5:48 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by HX_Guy

“I think what this demonstrates is you can accommodate community standards and still build a successful project,” Linoff said.

Not that it matters, but how has this project been proven "successful"? I just thought that was an odd statement.

Anyway, what is the latest on the redevlopment of the Mill? I haven't heard anything about it in quite a while. Anybody know what's up with that?

PhxSprawler · #**1284** Posted **Nov 6, 2007, 6:56 PM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by ForAteOh

Not that it matters, but how has this project been proven "successful"? I just thought that was an odd statement.

Anyway, what is the latest on the redevlopment of the Mill? I haven't heard anything about it in quite a while. Anybody know what's up with that?

There are still no signs of a major construction effort. The ads on the fence surrounding the property are falling off in some places, and there still seem to be frequent vagrants behind the mill. I am quite curious to know what's up also.

sundevilgrad · #**1285** Posted **Nov 6, 2007, 7:19 PM**

Hasn't been updated in a while, but this is good website from the City of Tempe to track development (the link has been provided here many times)...

http://www.tempe.gov/business/Development_Report/

azsunsurfer · #**1286** Posted **Nov 6, 2007, 8:36 PM**

At a recent lecture Mr. Losch said that construction would begin in 60 days

azsunsurfer · #**1287** Posted **Nov 6, 2007, 8:42 PM**

In regards to the fraternity debate, our fraternity does not have a house at ASU (but use to before it became an IHOP parking lot), but we do have one of the nicest ones at USC. USC has a real row, its houses are historic but well kept for the most part, the pedestrian scale is great and it maintains the integrity of an actual community. Much more of a Greek life than ASU...

PhxSprawler · #**1288** Posted **Nov 7, 2007, 3:01 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by azsunsurfer

In regards to the fraternity debate, our fraternity does not have a house at ASU (but use to before it became an IHOP parking lot), but we do have one of the nicest ones at USC. USC has a real row, its houses are historic but well kept for the most part, the pedestrian scale is great and it maintains the integrity of an actual community. Much more of a Greek life than ASU...

Do you think ASU supported dorms will solve this problem at ASU? Is it even really a "problem?"

wissundevil06 · #**1289** Posted **Nov 7, 2007, 7:20 PM**

Dave's Dog House prepares to shut its door
Legal battle with developers ends; hot dog restaurant must move
by Benjamin Muth
published on Wednesday, November 7, 2007

Andrea Bloom / THE STATE PRESS

After a nearly yearlong legal battle, one of Tempe's most popular hot dog joints is closing its doors.

Dave Cheren, owner of Dave's Dog House located at Forest Avenue and University Drive, has reached an agreement with University Square of Tempe to allow construction where his restaurant now stands.

Prior to the deal, construction of University Square's multi-million dollar investments was halted.

The new complex will include housing, shopping, office space and a hotel.

Cheren said he was informed of the buyout plans in April 2006.

"They knew I was going to be asking for a great deal of money," Cheren said.

Other businesses near Dave's Dog House accepted buyout deals when first offered by University Square.

University Square claimed that Cheren was in violation of his original lease, which stated that he could only sell hot dogs and french fries, and therefore claimed that they had the right to evict him.

Cheren would have been in violation of that lease for expanding his menu to hamburgers and beer, but he said he made verbal agreements with the original landlord that allowed him to do so.

A judge in the Maricopa County Superior Court ruled in favor of Cheren, effectively putting the two businesses back where they started.

University Square is being developed by a team of three companies; SAXA, Triyar, and 3W Companies. None of the companies were available for comment.

Cheren said after the court ruling that he and University Square held a number of meetings and reached an agreement earlier this month.

The deal will come to fruition at the end of November or the end of January depending on final stipulations.

Cheren said his goal is to find a new location in the Tempe area or to franchise the restaurant.

"I cannot find any other location in this vicinity though," he said. "But I have been looking."

Cheren, who is turning 70 later this year, said he doesn't see himself starting a restaurant in a new city.

"Building up a name takes a lot of time," Cheren said. "You need to be younger to get started."

At the counter of Dave's Dog House sits an e-mail list for loyal Dog House customers.

"They can sign up and we will keep them informed about new locations," Cheren said.

-Looks like University Square will finally start! Hopefully the restaurant will be able to relocate somewhere near the area.

andrewkfromaz · #**1290** Posted **Nov 7, 2007, 7:43 PM**

It doesn't say anything about University Square starting, but at least now it can start. I think it may easily be a good while before it does start. Italics can be fun.

PhxSprawler · #**1291** Posted **Nov 7, 2007, 8:36 PM**

That is great news!!! In a perfect world, Dave's Dog House will have a second or third location in University Square when it is complete.

dbUNIT16 · #**1292** Posted **Nov 7, 2007, 9:52 PM**

So, it is quite possible that we can see the following projects all under construction at the same time:

Monti's Towers
Onyx
Mosaic
Lumina
Hotel to replace Bandersnatch
University Square

AWESOME! This is really going to be some place!

wissundevil06 · #**1293** Posted **Nov 8, 2007, 1:45 AM**

Don't know if these have been posted yet, but here are some renderings of Centerpoint on Mill that will be replacing Harkins Theatre I believe.

http://www.tempe.gov/maps/DevProjectDetails.aspx?LocationID=a4ba120f-962e-4b18-95fd-59207215a032

sundevilgrad · #**1294** Posted **Nov 8, 2007, 4:10 AM**

I would love to see Dave's take over the vacant College Street Deli location (but really, how long will that piece of crap strip mall be there?)...

SunDevil · #**1295** Posted **Nov 8, 2007, 4:27 AM**

Quote:

Originally Posted by sundevilgrad

I would love to see Dave's take over the vacant College Street Deli location (but really, how long will that piece of crap strip mall be there?)...

probably for quite some time , even though College Street Deli is not connected to the Student Book Center there is less than a foot separating the buildings. I don't see the SBC going anywhere soon.

Tip for current students, you can get free blue books there.

Azndragon837 · #**1296** Posted **Nov 8, 2007, 4:48 AM**

I am so dissapointed with the CVS going on the SWC of University & Mill. What's more annoying is two of my favorite hangouts are going away (when I was attending ASU): the Long Wong's and the NYC Barber Shop. They were such nice people (European Immigrants) when I used to get my haircut there.

Stupid CVS and their crappy single-use building. Tempe's Planning Department missed out on a rare opportunity to densify a prominent intersection. Now we have to deal with 3 one-story buildings on that intersection...well, 4 actually if you count the PF Changs, but that's part of the Centerpoint development.

-Andrew

andrewkfromaz · #**1297** Posted **Nov 8, 2007, 5:32 AM**

^^^ C'mon man, we all know Chili's is doomed. Only three one-story buildings on that intersection.

Just wait a few years for ASU to get its act together on that site...

JAHOPL · #**1298** Posted **Nov 9, 2007, 4:56 PM**

Monti's will have neighboring towers
November 9, 2007
Garin Groff, Tribune

Michael Monti has made peace with historic preservationists who blasted his initial plan to build a high-rise tower above the Valley's oldest building.

Tempe's Historic Preservation Commission signed off on his plans Thursday to build two towers next to Monti's La Casa Vieja, just weeks after rejecting an earlier proposal.

Monti's first plan included a pair of towers, one of which would have stood on piers that surrounded the adobe structure built in 1871. Critics said the plan shrouded the building and could get it kicked off state and national historic registries.

The new plan leaves the oldest part of the building as it stands today, and won compliments from those who opposed the original plan.

The building is perhaps the Valley's most significant historic structure. It was built by Tempe founder Charles Trumbull Hayden, whose son Carl was born in the house. Carl Hayden served in Congress for 57 years and has been called Arizona's most important person.

Monti plans to tear down newer additions to the restaurant and keep the oldest 11,000 square feet of the structure. He intends to sell the property to developer 3W Cos. but continue to operate the restaurant that his father bought in the 1950s. The new buildings will include shops, condos and a hotel. The hotel's name will include the name Hayden.

2 Tribune reader comments:

"How transparent. The guy makes an outrageous ridiculous plan, which is universaly scorned. Then within a week he has architectual drawings for 2 huge buildings? If this was his first proposal people would be outraged."

"Me personally, its his property he can do whatever he likes."

JAHOPL · #**1299** Posted **Nov 9, 2007, 5:00 PM**

<img src=http://www.eastvalleytribune.com/images/photos/2007/11/09/wel0gf9q.jpg">

I don't know why the common photo commands don't work in this forum, but that's a drawing of Monti's twin towers. They look to be about two 25-story glass towers.

HooverDam · #**1300** Posted **Nov 9, 2007, 5:12 PM**

^Just use [img]images URL[/img] or there's a little button for it as well.

Renderings look pretty neat from what I can tell, very sleek and modern, we'll see if it happens.