Manitoba Highways

[harls]

Originally Posted by rrskylar

Drove #75 south a few days ago, highway a complete piece of shit from St. Agathe to Morris, all joint have failed, softball size chunks of concrete strewn about the roadway and shoulders…complete safety hazard!

Anywhere else they would probably close the road and reroute traffic to the other lane!

rrskylar at the Emerson Crossing :

[harls]

Originally Posted by VANRIDERFAN

Drove it today from Minto to the Junction with PTH 18. They are just over 1/2 done with a new base layered over the original base and two layers of asphalt and fully paved shoulders. A dream to drive on.

I'm glad they did that part but Jeezum crow, Minto to Ninette didn't need it.. Ninette to Baldur needed it first.

Are they using the same group that did 18 south from 23 to Killarney? Because that will be a nice road.

[VANRIDERFAN]

Originally Posted by harls

I'm glad they did that part but Jeezum crow, Minto to Ninette didn't need it.. Ninette to Baldur needed it first.

Are they using the same group that did 18 south from 23 to Killarney? Because that will be a nice road.

They are also doing 23/5 Jct east as well. I'm assuming that 18 to 5 will be done summer 2023 (there is still a ton of aggregate left). I guess they want the locals to have one more year of pain until they get relief.

[Danny D Oh]

Originally Posted by rrskylar

Drove #75 south a few days ago, highway a complete piece of shit from St. Agathe to Morris, all joint have failed, softball size chunks of concrete strewn about the roadway and shoulders…complete safety hazard!

Anywhere else they would probably close the road and reroute traffic to the other lane!

Didn't find 75 as bad as I thought it would be, it's usually pretty awful all the way and especially south of 14, but it was fairly good for a MB highway this year. My mother in law thought I needed a wheel alignment because I29 was so rutted on the US side from south of Grand Forks to the border on the northbound side. They are redoing the southbound lanes this year.

[NewIreland]

Drove the trans Canada from Winnipeg to Moose Jaw today and WOW, the Regina bypass is awesome! Great engineering. The highway system is far better in Sask in general. There's actually quite a bit of controlled access which was surprising. On the Manitoba side there are lights everywhere and hundreds of dirt access roads. It's very 3rd world.

[theruler462]

I just made the trip back east from Calgary to Winnipeg. The difference in bridge infrastructure between Regina and Winnipeg is striking. When you enter Regina from the west on the #1, I don't think you hit a light until you've exited Ring Road onto Victoria. Compare that to Winnipeg where the only bridge east of Portage la Prairie is the Perimeter. And you have to drive through Headingley to get to it.

Outside the city, the one thing I will give Manitoba highways is that the exit signage and exit lanes on #1, both left and right lane exits are pretty good. Unfortunately, they're all at grade.

Another observation: Saskatchewan and Alberta have highway signs indicating "Important Intersection Ahead". Now I can't remember if these intersections are signalized though. You get to keep driving 110 as you cross them. Manitoba reduces the speed limit to 80, which now that I think of it, could be a safety issue since you may need to stop for a red.

Overall, the only section of eastbound #1 that I would rate as poor is the stretch you hit right when entering the province. They need to get on that quickly, it makes a bad first impression.

[rrskylar]

Originally Posted by Danny D Oh

Didn't find 75 as bad as I thought it would be, it's usually pretty awful all the way and especially south of 14, but it was fairly good for a MB highway this year. My mother in law thought I needed a wheel alignment because I29 was so rutted on the US side from south of Grand Forks to the border on the northbound side. They are redoing the southbound lanes this year.

The northbound lanes from the US border to Winnipeg are fine its the south bound lanes from St. Agathe to Morris that have all the joints failing with concrete chunks all over the roadway.

[Danny D Oh]

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[Wpgstvsouth94]

Originally Posted by rrskylar

The northbound lanes from the US border to Winnipeg are fine its the south bound lanes from St. Agathe to Morris that have all the joints failing with concrete chunks all over the roadway.

On the Manitoba 511 app it says from 205-305 they are doing concrete joint repairs right now according to the app. Is this not happening?

[plrh]

Originally Posted by Wpgstvsouth94

On the Manitoba 511 app it says from 205-305 they are doing concrete joint repairs right now according to the app. Is this not happening?

It's part of a job with joint repairs on #1 and the perimeter also. So the contractor might be working, but at a different site. And maybe the app just shows the entire job as in progress? Just a guess.

[VANRIDERFAN]

Originally Posted by harls

I'm glad they did that part but Jeezum crow, Minto to Ninette didn't need it.. Ninette to Baldur needed it first.

Are they using the same group that did 18 south from 23 to Killarney? Because that will be a nice road.

Took a cruise to my sister's place and 23 is being worked on from the Junction of PTH 5 all the way to PTH 10. According to Manitoba 511 it is to be completed by end September. Looks like the stretch to Mariapolis will commence next year.

[DavefromSt.Vital]

^ A friend commented yesterday re: Highway 23..."They are working on both sides of Ninette. On the east side of Ninette they have from close to Ninette to just past Belmont either gravel ready for paving or paved with a couple of layers of asphalt. On the west side of Ninette they have completed from just west of Highway 18 almost to Highway 10. I would say they have not done any work about 5 miles from Highway 10 then there’s about 5 miles of gravel that was being prepped for paving and then there is one or two layers of asphalt on the rest of it. When I was stopped by the flagger waiting to be piloted through the gravel section he came up and open the passenger door and we chatted for a while and I found out that they will be doing a third layer on everything once it is all complete and they still have to do all of the entrances to the roads kind of you know, level those off. So the work is progressing quite nicely and it is oh so nice to drive on."

[VANRIDERFAN]

Originally Posted by DavefromSt.Vital

^ A friend commented yesterday re: Highway 23..."They are working on both sides of Ninette. On the east side of Ninette they have from close to Ninette to just past Belmont either gravel ready for paving or paved with a couple of layers of asphalt. On the west side of Ninette they have completed from just west of Highway 18 almost to Highway 10. I would say they have not done any work about 5 miles from Highway 10 then there’s about 5 miles of gravel that was being prepped for paving and then there is one or two layers of asphalt on the rest of it. When I was stopped by the flagger waiting to be piloted through the gravel section he came up and open the passenger door and we chatted for a while and I found out that they will be doing a third layer on everything once it is all complete and they still have to do all of the entrances to the roads kind of you know, level those off. So the work is progressing quite nicely and it is oh so nice to drive on."

They are going right up to the Junction of Highway 5 to the east. When I headed west there was quite the delay at the point of construction west of Margaret. So I turned off the highway to link up with the provincial road. It was quite the drop off going to the gravel road so I'm pleased to hear that they'll be fixing that. A third layer eh? That's going to be a damn fine road once they're done.

I remember back in the early 80's when they did a massive improvement on Highway 10. It seemed that they took forever to get it done and the result was a little less than satisfactory. Now they seem to be able to get twice as much done with a third less equipment.

[rrskylar]

Drove through Deacons Corner on #1 yesterday, a whole lot of nothing accomplished...and when did they start again!

[Wpgstvsouth94]

Originally Posted by rrskylar

Drove through Deacons Corner on #1 yesterday, a whole lot of nothing accomplished...and when did they start again!

I know and with all the development here we need a diamond interchange at this location. I don’t get this province.. the cost of what they are doing now is in the excess of 20 million.

[Dengler Avenue]

Originally Posted by rrskylar

Drove through Deacons Corner on #1 yesterday, a whole lot of nothing accomplished...and when did they start again!

Originally Posted by Wpgstvsouth94

I know and with all the development here we need a diamond interchange at this location. I don’t get this province.. the cost of what they are doing now is in the excess of 20 million.

What’s the geology like in the area?

[bomberjet]

They're doing a whole bunch of temporary work at Deacon's to make room for all the new pavement. Seems like A LOT of work and money and still no overpass.

St Mary's came in pretty expensive though.

[esquire]

Originally Posted by bomberjet

They're doing a whole bunch of temporary work at Deacon's to make room for all the new pavement. Seems like A LOT of work and money and still no overpass.

St Mary's came in pretty expensive though.

Funny that local journos haven't done some digging into this. The cost seems so stratospherically high compared to what's going on in other provinces. I did a quick google search and found this example of a interchange plus some related improvements on a NS project completed last year that cost a grand total of $28 million.

Why does a diamond interchange cost nearly 5x more in Manitoba?

The Lantz interchange officially opened today, December 23. The completed project includes:

-four new ramps forming a diamond interchange
-a roundabout at each intersection of on- and off-ramps
-a kilometre-long controlled access connector road linking Highway 102 to Trunk 2
-a roundabout at Trunk 2
-two new three-lane bridges over Nine Mile River on Highway 102
-widening of both the northbound and southbound lanes of Highway 102.

What's going on here?

[Dengler Avenue]

Is it because of the geology?
Or is there incompetence or outright corruption going on behind the scene?

[esquire]

Originally Posted by Dengler Avenue

Is it because of the geology?
Or is there incompetence or outright corruption going on behind the scene?

Good question.

If you look at the Lantz interchange, the terrain doesn't look that dissimilar from St. Mary's/100.

https://goo.gl/maps/N8wxuBwir2zsyhyKA

It's a nice, standard diamond. Something which doesn't exist in Manitoba. The proposed St. Mary's interchange, as with most interchanges in Manitoba, has odd complications in its design which a) seem totally optional and b) surely add to the bottom line cost.