NHL season 2017/2018 - Page 65

Calgarian · #**1281** Posted **Mar 8, 2018, 5:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by O-tacular

I’m less optimistic. Other teams still have games in hand and are still leading. We have to win like 80% of the games to make it. Based on their track record I’m doubtful. They should almost call it a day and get better draft picks.

We don't have a first or second round pick this summer, we traded them to get Hamonic.

Andy6 · #**1282** Posted **Mar 8, 2018, 5:45 PM**

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Originally Posted by jawagord

Are you trying to go full Oiler Blue Note? Beyond dumb luck in winning the NHL draft lottery to get Patrick Laine what have the Jets done in the 7 years they've been back in Winnipeg? Missed the playoffs 5 times, swept 4 straight the only time they made the playoffs. And now with the team finally having a good season you start chirping like the Jets are Stanley Cup winners, that garners a lot of respect all right!

They’ve built up a really great team by being patient and incredibly smart with their draft picks. They are definitely among the Cup favourites this year. They’re not a team that wanted to fluke out a good season here and there. They wanted to take the time to build a perennial powerhouse and that’s exactly what they are on the verge of becoming.

Jammon · #**1283** Posted **Mar 8, 2018, 10:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by Andy6

They’ve built up a really great team by being patient and incredibly smart with their draft picks. They are definitely among the Cup favourites this year. They’re not a team that wanted to fluke out a good season here and there. They wanted to take the time to build a perennial powerhouse and that’s exactly what they are on the verge of becoming.

I think Calgary and Edmonton fans forget that they were incredibly close to losing their teams as well when the Jets 1.0 went to Arizona. Every Canadian team was losing money because of the value of the Canadian dollar. If it weren't for the subsequent lockout and eventual profit sharing agreement, Edmonton and Calgary would have been done too.

Even now, Calgary is dangerously close to operating in the red zone. If you look at the Forbes list of NHL teams, Calgary may soon have to start collecting from the sharing agreement rather than contributing to it. I'm all for as many Canadian teams as you can get. It might actually bring a Stanley Cup back to Canada. It's been way too long.

Calgarian · #**1284** Posted **Mar 8, 2018, 10:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by Jammon

I think Calgary and Edmonton fans forget that they were incredibly close to losing their teams as well when the Jets 1.0 went to Arizona. Every Canadian team was losing money because of the value of the Canadian dollar. If it weren't for the subsequent lockout and eventual profit sharing agreement, Edmonton and Calgary would have been done too.

Even now, Calgary is dangerously close to operating in the red zone. If you look at the Forbes list of NHL teams, Calgary may soon have to start collecting from the sharing agreement rather than contributing to it. I'm all for as many Canadian teams as you can get. It might actually bring a Stanley Cup back to Canada. It's been way too long.

What does the post you quoted have to do with your response to it? You Winnipeg guys are really trying to push a narrative here that completely misses what everyone else is talking about

logan5 · #**1285** Posted **Mar 9, 2018, 1:48 AM**

Another superstar incoming for the Canucks. Today Elias Pettersson became the best under 20 player of all time, overtaking Kent Nillson. With Pettersson playing the right side on the pp (his usual spot), and Boeser on the left, the Canucks powerplay should be lethal. Teams won't be able the key in on Boeser as much either. Boeser will challenge for the Rocket Richard trophy in the next couple of years.

Pettersson has eclipsed some pretty big names. In most instances by a lot.

Andy6 · #**1286** Posted **Mar 9, 2018, 4:14 AM**

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Originally Posted by logan5

Another superstar incoming for the Canucks.

"Another"?

logan5 · #**1287** Posted **Mar 9, 2018, 5:08 AM**

Boeser projects to be a 40 to 50 goal scorer. Those are superstar numbers to me. The Canucks are one of the lowest scoring teams in the league, so for Boeser to do what he did this year is an accomplishment.

JHikka · #**1288** Posted **Mar 9, 2018, 12:49 PM**

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Originally Posted by logan5

Boeser projects to be a 40 to 50 goal scorer.

Off of one season where he's stuck at 29 due to injury? I would give it a bit more time before claiming he'll be a 50 goal superstar. I think that's jumping the gun a bit.

He's also 21. 30-35 could very well be his ceiling.

TorontoDrew · #**1289** Posted **Mar 9, 2018, 3:54 PM**

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Originally Posted by Andy6

"Another"?

LOL, you beat me to it. A team that's in 28th place has no superstars at this point.

suburbanite · #**1290** Posted **Mar 9, 2018, 4:14 PM**

What kind of logic is that? Mcdavid and Karlsson aren't superstars? This isn't the NBA, the best players in the league can't drag their teams to the playoffs single-handedly.

I typically wouldn't want to make a call like that on a young players career until after their sophomore year when things normalize a bit. Boeser passes the eye test for sure though. He's got an amazing release, which we've seen is becoming increasingly important as these young guys entering the league are freezing goalies by changing angles and playing off defenders. I don't watch a lot of full Vancouver games, but he seems to have good hockey iq and gets to the right spots. He reminds of Matthews in that he has a good mix of goals that he completely creates himself with his shot, and also a fair bit from being in the right position and capitalizing on opportunities in close.

The Sedins were something else, but I think this kid is the most exciting talent the Canucks have had since Bure.

optimusREIM · #**1291** Posted **Mar 9, 2018, 4:14 PM**

Haha we shouldn't be so mean with one another. I mean realistically there's teams with bright futures in Canada and then there's the oilers and the habs

Calgarian · #**1292** Posted **Mar 9, 2018, 4:16 PM**

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Originally Posted by optimusREIM

Haha we shouldn't be so mean with one another.

Yes we should, this is what sports are all about lol. We should keep it respectful, but I'm definitely going to trash talk the fans of rival teams.

O-tacular · #**1293** Posted **Mar 9, 2018, 4:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by Calgarian

We don't have a first or second round pick this summer, we traded them to get Hamonic.

Well that was a royal fuck up. Playing him with Brody has not worked out well.

DoubleK · #**1294** Posted **Mar 9, 2018, 4:19 PM**

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Originally Posted by Calgarian

Yes we should, this is what sports are all about lol. We should keep it respectful, but I'm definitely going to trash talk the fans of rival teams.

This. I don't hate other teams, I hate their fans.

rrskylar · #**1295** Posted **Mar 9, 2018, 4:21 PM**

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Originally Posted by O-tacular

Well that was a royal fuck up. Playing him with Brody has not worked well.

When Hamonic asked for a trade away from the Islanders he wanted to come home, glad the Jets took a flyer as, wouldn't want Hamonic replacing any of the Jets top 6 D!

Calgarian · #**1296** Posted **Mar 9, 2018, 4:22 PM**

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Originally Posted by O-tacular

Well that was a royal fuck up. Playing him with Brody has not worked out well.

He's been decent, and is far superior to Wideman.

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Originally Posted by rrskylar

When Hamonic asked for a trade away from the Islanders he wanted to come home, glad the Jets took a flyer as, wouldn't want Hamonic replacing any of the Jets top 6 D!

Hamonic isn't bad, he's more the stay at home type D that flies under the radar.

ExcaliburKid · #**1297** Posted **Mar 9, 2018, 4:39 PM**

Hamonic deal could really blow up in the Flames' face. They're barely hanging on in the playoff race right now, so that 1st rounder they gave up for TH could turn into a lottery pick. That would be a bad look, almost as bad as Chiarelli's infamous Griffin Reinhart trade in 2015. Treliving better hope his team goes on a winning streak to close out the year and also hope that it's enough to get them into the wildcard spots

DoubleK · #**1298** Posted **Mar 9, 2018, 4:47 PM**

^^^

Taylor Hall sez hi!

Denscity · #**1299** Posted **Mar 9, 2018, 5:30 PM**

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Originally Posted by ExcaliburKid

Hamonic deal could really blow up in the Flames' face. They're barely hanging on in the playoff race right now, so that 1st rounder they gave up for TH could turn into a lottery pick. That would be a bad look, almost as bad as Chiarelli's infamous Griffin Reinhart trade in 2015. Treliving better hope his team goes on a winning streak to close out the year and also hope that it's enough to get them into the wildcard spots

Could you imagine if Calgary wins the draft lottery and they have to trade Dahlen away haha??!!

Calgarian · #**1300** Posted **Mar 9, 2018, 5:34 PM**

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Originally Posted by ExcaliburKid

Hamonic deal could really blow up in the Flames' face. They're barely hanging on in the playoff race right now, so that 1st rounder they gave up for TH could turn into a lottery pick. That would be a bad look, almost as bad as Chiarelli's infamous Griffin Reinhart trade in 2015. Treliving better hope his team goes on a winning streak to close out the year and also hope that it's enough to get them into the wildcard spots

I think the deal already blew up in their face, we did nothing at the trade deadline while the teams we are all chasing made improvements. There will have to be a couple big trades this summer if we do end up missing the playoffs, though I don't know who we can move. Fortunately we will have some cap space to work with, especially if the cap goes up like it's supposed to.

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Originally Posted by Denscity

Could you imagine if Calgary wins the draft lottery and they have to trade Dahlen away haha??!!

We wouldn't trade anyone away if we aren't able to draft them in the first place.

This is the risk in hockey, on paper the Flames have a very competitive team, but in reality it didn't work out. Only a few teams are able to make trades that make them a legitimate contender the next season. Chicago picked Saad back up and thought that would keep them competitive, but they are going to be out of the playoffs this year. The Canucks picked up Erikkson in hopes of keeping competitive while they undergo a rebuild, but that didn't work out at all, and they are on the outside again. I'm thrilled that the league is so competitive and equal now, but it makes it really hard to find that exact fit that takes you to the next level.