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  #1281  
Old Posted May 14, 2014, 7:31 PM
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God I love it when I read news like that! Awesome if it's true!
The 730-foot figure is mentioned at least twice in the press release, including once in a quote of Mayor Nutter:

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“This development sends a 49-story, 730-foot message from Philadelphia to the global marketplace: Our
City is a dynamic and unique place to live, work and explore."
I wouldn't be surprised if they held that number back just to enhance the PR impact of releasing it today.
     
     
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Hold onto your hats, folks! Looks like this might break 700 feet after all, per Brandywine's press release today:
The 49-story, 730-foot tall tower will be a striking addition to the City’s skyline, with 10-foot floor-to-ceiling glass walls allowing for 360-degree panoramic views of the Schuylkill River, Center City and nearby green spaces such as Schuylkill Banks Park and Penn Park. Its 861,000 square feet of rentable space will feature 622,000 square feet of office space, 268 luxury apartments and executive suites, and a bar/restaurant on the ground floor. Amenities will include an aquatic center with pool and deck, fitness center and spa, and a state-of-the-art business conference center.
http://investor.brandywinerealty.com/Yearlynews.aspx?iid=103209
Again I ask, what is the basis for the height? ground level or street level? That 40 extra feet may be the height of Walnut at that location.
     
     
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Old Posted May 14, 2014, 7:48 PM
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Again I ask, what is the basis for the height? ground level or street level? That 40 extra feet may be the height of Walnut at that location.
Aren't Walnut Street and ground level the same in this case? There aren't any entrances or building facade below that level:




Or am I missing something?
     
     
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Hold onto your hats, folks! Looks like this might break 700 feet after all, per Brandywine's press release today:
The 49-story, 730-foot tall tower will be a striking addition to the City’s skyline, with 10-foot floor-to-ceiling glass walls allowing for 360-degree panoramic views of the Schuylkill River, Center City and nearby green spaces such as Schuylkill Banks Park and Penn Park. Its 861,000 square feet of rentable space will feature 622,000 square feet of office space, 268 luxury apartments and executive suites, and a bar/restaurant on the ground floor. Amenities will include an aquatic center with pool and deck, fitness center and spa, and a state-of-the-art business conference center.
http://investor.brandywinerealty.com/Yearlynews.aspx?iid=103209

Well... .NOW its REALLY a tease. Just another 9.00001 feet more and they would have been the 5th tallest building in Philadelphia!
     
     
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Old Posted May 14, 2014, 7:56 PM
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Awesome! Hope that's true, but in either case it will stand out a lot in that location
     
     
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Aren't Walnut Street and ground level the same in this case? There aren't any entrances or building facade below that level:
I'd kind of figure this is ground level: http://goo.gl/maps/eb2YA

That may explain the difference between the 730' number and the 690' one that was recently circulating.
     
     
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Old Posted May 14, 2014, 8:06 PM
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Again I ask, what is the basis for the height? ground level or street level? That 40 extra feet may be the height of Walnut at that location.
Height is typically measured from the entrance to the building, ie, at street level. here are the criteria as laid out by the council on tall buildings and urban habitat:
http://ctbuh.org/TallBuildings/HeightStatistics/Criteria/tabid/446/language/en-US/Default.aspx
     
     
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The new renders on the Brandywine website are very nice...they show the increased height.
     
     
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Well... .NOW its REALLY a tease. Just another 9.00001 feet more and they would have been the 5th tallest building in Philadelphia!
I just soiled myself.

I will rent some of the world's largest hydraulic jacks if the measurement is not measured from street level...LOL
     
     
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Plus I imagine since both numbers came through Brandywine, that they would be using the same measuring point for both the previous 650/690-foot and the current 730-foot number. Doesn't seem likely that they would change it at the last minute just to goose up the height number.
     
     
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Old Posted May 14, 2014, 8:16 PM
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Height is typically measured from the entrance to the building, ie, at street level. here are the criteria as laid out by the council on tall buildings and urban habitat:
http://ctbuh.org/TallBuildings/HeightStatistics/Criteria/tabid/446/language/en-US/Default.aspx
If that is the case (and I don't doubt that it is), wouldn't the effect of this building on the skyline essentially be that of a ~770' building since street level is elevated at that location?
     
     
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Aren't Walnut Street and ground level the same in this case? There aren't any entrances or building facade below that level:




Or am I missing something?
They're probably going to put the services entrance on the lower level (I'm pretty sure they did the same thing with Evo--that's what it's there for)--but generally height is measured from the front door, in this case, on the upper level, to the top of the highest architectural point on the structure.
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Old Posted May 14, 2014, 8:27 PM
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The new renders on the Brandywine website are very nice...they show the increased height.
I think this has evolved into one of Pelli's best efforts...especially with the increased height.
     
     
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Old Posted May 14, 2014, 8:28 PM
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Okay, here's what I say, make it 50 STORIES (with a 300 ft sphere, once and for all!) And it should be approximately 1000 ft.
Seriously, like I said before. Be thankful that we are getting a beautifully designed skyscraper from a major team player in the city. FMC. period.
My hero at any height!
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I know that I'm fantasizing now, but since this is a mixed-use building, they should of consider adding a hotel component and push the height up even further.
     
     
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I love surprises! This building is a HUGE milestone for the future. I won't be surprised if more towers that size get built in that area. (Like 1 Lib place, when it was first built. It only takes 1 to start a trend.)
     
     
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They're probably going to put the services entrance on the lower level (I'm pretty sure they did the same thing with Evo--that's what it's there for)--but generally height is measured from the front door, in this case, on the upper level, to the top of the highest architectural point on the structure.
EDIT: Never mind--figured it out. Had to go down below 30th Street (courtesy of Google Street View) to understand what you meant by lower level:

https://www.google.com/maps/@39.952172,-...3m4!1e1!3m2!1sDo-GFRmDF__6XIeH_q50KA!2e0

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Old Posted May 14, 2014, 9:18 PM
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In case you haven't seen this yet, ENJOY (and be sure to click the full-screen icon at the far right of the control bar at the bottom):

http://fmctower.com/video/FMC-Tower.mp4

And here's the whole FMC Tower site, including renderings:

http://fmctower.com/
     
     
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Old Posted May 14, 2014, 10:08 PM
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Didn't realize that Cesar Pelli is almost as tall as some of his buildings:

     
     
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