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Old Posted Feb 17, 2023, 5:11 AM
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noted before, but the glazing on the red/orange brick podium section does not appear (to me) to match rendering. Maybe i am missing something, those glass panels look to be full floor height
Nope you are definitely correct - those windows definitely do not match the render - which is what I am holding out for - that they upscaled it somewhat from the render and made it less ellen faircloudesque - maybe put a consistent cornice on it to make it look like the back..



oh god I just noticed the podium has the same "spouts" the kiwi condos building has.. is randomly splashing water from several stories up onto the sidewalk now a thing??
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Old Posted Feb 17, 2023, 11:10 AM
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oh god I just noticed the podium has the same "spouts" the kiwi condos building has.. is randomly splashing water from several stories up onto the sidewalk now a thing??
We are the city of waterfalls after all, it's part of a new city wide water feature requirement for new builds. lol
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Old Posted Feb 17, 2023, 2:41 PM
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Is that the only drainage for those exposed surfaces? How common is this in other cities?

I'd think it has to be raining pretty hard for there to be "waterfalls" though, to have enough water collecting to be pouring out.
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Old Posted Feb 18, 2023, 3:45 AM
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Is that the only drainage for those exposed surfaces? How common is this in other cities?

I'd think it has to be raining pretty hard for there to be "waterfalls" though, to have enough water collecting to be pouring out.
It looks to be the case..

but yeah fair point.. it's not like they're gonna be torrentially spewing water all the time.. still it may be interesting to watch it happen.. it just seems rather hazardous to do it here - what happens if there is a flash freeze spell after? The area below would become like a deathtrap.. or just the erosion on the sidewalk from the water constantly hitting it - or the "slime" trail that such water trails always leave.. guess only time will tell..
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Old Posted Feb 18, 2023, 8:23 PM
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Really liking the exterior masonry now that the scaffolding has been dismantled. The wide angle shot really captures the size of this project.


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Old Posted Feb 18, 2023, 10:07 PM
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Wow - That's honestly Excellent. Was NOT expecting that.
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Old Posted Feb 18, 2023, 10:10 PM
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Wow - That's honestly Excellent. Was NOT expecting that.
Whoa I have to admit I was not either...

but the middle part.. it kinda looks like cinderblock - is it being kept like that or is there gonna be another finish put on top..? I mean I get what they are going for - like the john and main building if it's being kept like that - but I feel that finish is always.. risky.. in that it can just look like cinderblock.. I think the part that's throwing me off is the part right under the cornice for the red brick - if the part in the middle is supposed to represent the building finishes looking like separate.. buildings.. and thus being like a divider.. then why is that design extended under the cornice? That part feels VERY out of place..

I am liking the embellishment on top though - a part of me has this feeling of relief.. that they didn't cheap out - as you know I was VERY concerned about how the end result was gonna look like.. but I like it - I feel, if they wrap it around to the front like this that it will complement the olympia club well - well it's not often we are pleasantly surprised!

I really like how the stone changes colour to match the cobalt blue/gunmetal grey coloured brick - I feel that was a nice touch. Still not sure how I feel about the middle part though.. hard to judge as it's being built - I'll reserve my judgements for the final result - still, some VERY interesting stuff! This should set a good precedent.

Those wet marks on the stone right below the water spouts right above the first floor windows is a bit worrisome though - I fear this will lead to erosion over time or just discoloration.. and it doesn't look like they kept the placements of them balanced on the blue part - one looks like its coming out of the "pillar" part and another right under the window.. I really don't know how to feel about these spouts - largely because I have never seen this done in our city before.. to my knowledge.. and of course they were done in ancient times and still in places like mexico... I just worry over time it is going to leave unsightly stain marks as the minerals in the water build up over time over the spill lines.. or slowly erode away..

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Old Posted Feb 18, 2023, 11:52 PM
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Love it. I'm pitching a tent over here.
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Old Posted Feb 19, 2023, 12:28 AM
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Love it. I'm pitching a tent over here.
This part of town you won't be the only one

Real question is what the King St frontage will look like, are they keeping the brutalism??
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Old Posted Feb 19, 2023, 1:06 AM
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Damn this is a beautiful surprise!!!
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Old Posted Feb 19, 2023, 1:14 AM
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Yeah that almost perfectly matches the streetwall on the opposite side of King William since they're simulating the look of several different buildings in a row. Real out of the box design for Hamilton.
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Old Posted Feb 19, 2023, 1:24 AM
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It’s super nice only maybe it’s just me but the middle part looks a little odd as it has no posts. I’m liking that dental work on the red brick one and the dark brick is actually a deep brown when you see it in person. This is really something to be happy with.
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Old Posted Feb 19, 2023, 2:21 AM
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This part of town you won't be the only one

Real question is what the King St frontage will look like, are they keeping the brutalism??
That's what we're all holding our breath to see.. cuz if so I feel like they will have failed in the one spot that mattered the most. I FEEL though, because of the similar style of the pediment all around that they may just continue this pattern with different finishes all around the podium - laziness in design may prevail - I hope anyways. The renders for this building were not exactly.. detailed enough.

Or maybe they heard about me bitching about it enough and changed it hahaha

"HE NEEDS CORNICES!"

I do kinda wish that the lintels were one solid piece across - I feel the parts in the middle may erode away over time - I am not sure how well this podium will keep over the years. Still, it's the best traditional styled podium I have probably ever seen in the city.. in fact.. come to think of it.. it may be the ONLY traditional styled skyscraper podium I have ever seen built in the city... well.. newly built.. william thomas doesn't count..

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Old Posted Feb 19, 2023, 5:50 PM
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I do kinda wish that the lintels were one solid piece across
Also it kind of defeats the look of the lintels lol which is to hold up the window in typical brick construction.

My only complaint is that these would have looked better with windows instead of balconies I think. Also the windows are always spandrel panels and vents ugh. When you see a construction that uses windows correctly it's insane how much better it looks.

I was in Bogotá two weeks ago and their new construction is beautiful and they don't have spandrel panels anywhere and it just looked incredibly clean and lovely to look at. While everyone here is aware I'm not obsessed with the skyline, I think generally our population would be less antagonistic toward density if it just looked less ugly.

Paige Saunders on YouTube has a good video I think I've shared before here, but I've got some pictures of Bogotá I may share in the general thread to show what I mean.
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Old Posted Feb 19, 2023, 10:30 PM
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Oh, wow. High end podium. Nice.
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Old Posted Feb 24, 2023, 2:24 AM
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I went to take look tonight, and while it definitely looks great from a distance, up close it's just an absolute mess. The "stone" is different sizes for some reason with no rhyme or pattern. The KiWi style water spouts are back wetting the brick and "stone". The stone work isn't even level in places. Odd placement of stress lines through the brick. It's fine, but honestly seems like they paid the cheapest brick contractors.





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Old Posted Feb 25, 2023, 3:56 PM
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Yup the water marks on the stone are a sign of bad things to come - this building is going to erode very badly over the years. Never give another builder a job that core urban can do with better justice.

And I get it - it's why people don't do traditional styled podiums - all that stone and brick is expensive. Still, smarten up a bit, make it look presentable at least.. and.. logical. Don't put joints under stress areas or spout in area that wil ldamage the facade over time.. smh..

the spouts thing just floors me - they all just seemed to come out of nowhere one day.. isn't that what weep holes in brick are supposed to be for, so the water pours down and empties out the bottom, not disfiguring the outside? Water is never clean, it leaves stains.
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Old Posted Feb 25, 2023, 4:13 PM
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I want to believe a gutter will run along the top of that cornice and its just not done yet. I hope....
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Old Posted Feb 25, 2023, 4:18 PM
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I want to believe a gutter will run along the top of that cornice and its just not done yet. I hope....
A gutter WOULD be logical - not the most attractive, but logical. Then again one only has to look at the kiwi building to see it lost likely is just gonna be kept like that.. a spout.. smart design seems to have left. Wherever you see wetness on the brick right now 20 years from now will be sharp eroded indentations in the stone. Or precast concrete whatever it is.. and they seem to have lined them all up with stone edges, making it even worse.. At least if you center the stone you'll mostly just erode the top edge and stain it, but it's not like their sizing has any rhyme or reason - they have parts where there are tiny fill pieces.. it's all just so.. haphazard..

Like this tiny piece.. what the hell.. did they size it wrong and be like "oops we need a tiny piece to fit in here"? Haiyaa...



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