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Old Posted Apr 12, 2010, 10:56 PM
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Feds sitting on underutilized office campuses: city report
Published on April 12th, 2010
Peter Kovessy
Ottawa Business Journal
With Ottawa facing a dwindling supply of land within the Greenbelt available for office development, city officials plan to press the federal government to redevelop some of its properties.
Topics : Public Works , Transitway , Ottawa , Greenbelt

Since 2001, Ottawa has lost 35 per cent of its supply of employment land – property designated for manufacturing, warehousing, offices and other accommodations that support well-paying jobs – to other uses, such as retail and residential.

When all the land parcels are added up, Ottawa technically has an adequate 25-year supply of employment lands. However, city staff have written multiple reports noting much of this land is located far away from where developers want to build, is carved into unworkable parcels or lacks roads, transit and water/sewer services.

Earlier this year, the city’s planning department held a half-day summit with Ottawa’s development industry.

A summary of the summit, being tabled at a city committee Tuesday, says there was considerable discussion on the role of the federal government.
“Public Works … does not have a history as a community partner, and therefore has not been fully engaged with the city or the community in pursuing mixed-use redevelopment of its underutilized properties,” says the report, specifically naming Tunney’s Pasture, Confederation Heights and the Booth Street Complex.

It says city staff and councillors plan to meet Public Works officials, as well as Ottawa-area MPs, to pursue joint planning exercises on selected federal lands within the Greenbelt.

Last year, Public Works took the first step in redeveloping Tunney’s Pasture by hiring HOK, an international planning and design firm, to help develop a new master plan for the sprawling 49-hectare federal campus.

Separately, the city report says further consideration should be given to constructing buildings above the Transitway.

However, the width of the Transitway does not leave room for supporting columns, meaning development would require more expensive building techniques.



Here's the report (also has info on other innovative planning tools)
http://ottawa.ca/calendar/ottawa/citycou...nnovation%20Policy%20Summit%20Review.htm
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Feds sitting on underutilized office campuses: city report
Published on April 12th, 2010
Peter Kovessy
Ottawa Business Journal
With Ottawa facing a dwindling supply of land within the Greenbelt available for office development, city officials plan to press the federal government to redevelop some of its properties.
Topics : Public Works , Transitway , Ottawa , Greenbelt

Since 2001, Ottawa has lost 35 per cent of its supply of employment land – property designated for manufacturing, warehousing, offices and other accommodations that support well-paying jobs – to other uses, such as retail and residential.

When all the land parcels are added up, Ottawa technically has an adequate 25-year supply of employment lands. However, city staff have written multiple reports noting much of this land is located far away from where developers want to build, is carved into unworkable parcels or lacks roads, transit and water/sewer services.

Earlier this year, the city’s planning department held a half-day summit with Ottawa’s development industry.

A summary of the summit, being tabled at a city committee Tuesday, says there was considerable discussion on the role of the federal government.
“Public Works … does not have a history as a community partner, and therefore has not been fully engaged with the city or the community in pursuing mixed-use redevelopment of its underutilized properties,” says the report, specifically naming Tunney’s Pasture, Confederation Heights and the Booth Street Complex.

It says city staff and councillors plan to meet Public Works officials, as well as Ottawa-area MPs, to pursue joint planning exercises on selected federal lands within the Greenbelt.

Last year, Public Works took the first step in redeveloping Tunney’s Pasture by hiring HOK, an international planning and design firm, to help develop a new master plan for the sprawling 49-hectare federal campus.

Separately, the city report says further consideration should be given to constructing buildings above the Transitway.

However, the width of the Transitway does not leave room for supporting columns, meaning development would require more expensive building techniques.



Here's the report (also has info on other innovative planning tools)
http://ottawa.ca/calendar/ottawa/citycou...nnovation%20Policy%20Summit%20Review.htm
It is an interesting report...in particular wrt Tunney's. They keep tearing down buidings there and not building anything new. I have previously worked in that complex and it is a great site to work at.
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Underutilized campuses here... and mindless bureaucratic sprawl (hi, John Baird moving the RCMP out to Farrhaven!) there.

The six decade federal battle to turn Ottawa into a suburb of itself continues.
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Before Ashcroft buys it,they'd better find out whether it's going to be designated a heritage property.
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Careful with the heritage talk...you'll get ajldub all riled up again.
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You want it you can have it.

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Large homeless population will likely curtail green space redevelopment for some time

By Hugh Adami, The Ottawa CitizenApril 18, 2010Comments (18)

Turning King Edward Avenue into another Champs-Élysées was more pipe dream than vision when Jim Durrell presented his platform during the 1985 Ottawa mayoral campaign.

But 25 years later, that stretch of King Edward north of Rideau Street finally does have a look of respectability after a $50-million reconstruction. There are new sewers, sidewalks, bold street lighting and a picturesque entranceway to the ByWard Market at York Street that is nearing completion.

But a landmark eyesore remains and it is not coming down — much to the chagrin of Rideau-Vanier Councillor Georges Bédard.

The city will allow exemptions to a policy that prohibits buildings to be demolished unless redevelopment plans are approved first. Bédard, who has taken stock of the dilapidated buildings in his ward, has found some owners willing to apply for the exemption.

But Claude Lauzon, a residential and commercial landlord who owns the eight boarded-up rowhouses on the east side of King Edward, between Clarence and Murray streets, isn’t biting.

The property at 263-275 King Edward could even make a rat wince, so imagine how the poor neighbours around it feel.

The Shepherds of Good Hope, which used the rowhouses for the homeless, was the last tenant. The buildings were vacated in 1999 when a new shelter opened across the street. The vacant buildings have often been broken into and used as flophouses and drug dens.

Just around the corner, at 260 Murray, is another boarded-up, derelict property. It is a house with a rambling addition, and was also used as a shelter from 1990 to 1999. Metal fencing between the buildings blocks access to the back lots.

That property is also owned by Lauzon, as are some other gems in Bédard’s ward.

There is the former Our Lady’s School building, built in 1904, on the northeast corner of Murray and Cumberland. A crumbling building, once a two-unit residence, is next door. Though the buildings do not have a heritage designation, they are located in a heritage area. There has been some lobbying to save both buildings in a redevelopment. But Lauzon believes the school, boarded up for decades, is beyond saving. Ditto for the adjacent building, which was significantly damaged by fire a few years ago.

The four properties have something in common besides the same landlord. They are situated in an area swarming with homeless people, many of whom have mental and addiction problems. That is a big reason why Lauzon isn’t rushing to redevelop them soon.

Lauzon’s daughter Lise, who works for her father, says there aren’t any plans for the King Edward properties now, and even if the Lauzons wanted to get something done, they would be discouraged by the many street people in the area and the problems they have brought with them.

“It’s getting worse,” she says. “It’s sad to see the people involved with drugs and what it does to them … It affects everybody (in the area.)”

Bédard has asked Lauzon to apply for an exemption, which would allow Lauzon to demolish the property, including the building around the corner. The land would then have to be turned into green space — basically a grassed area open to the public. The property would have to be maintained by Lauzon, and he would have to submit a redevelopment proposal within five or six years or face hefty fines.

Bédard says Lauzon hasn’t replied to his letter. Lise Lauzon says razing the King Edward buildings would create a bigger problem. Street people, she says, would congregate there during the warmer months and upset the neighbourhood even more than the eyesore does.

“This is not something we are willing to consider at this point. It’s one thing to demolish, but to maintain an open green space in that area? We have enough street people there already.”

In fact, residents have complained of having to put up with druggies on their front steps and even their backyards, day and night.

The Lauzons asked for a demolition permit to raze the school and residence about five years ago without submitting a redevelopment plan. There was talk of putting up an apartment building, but without a plan — and one that would have had to take in the heritage characteristics of the street — the demolition permit was denied.

Lauzon, who recounts the hurdles they faced for the first phase of a redevelopment on Beechwood Avenue, says new rental units are needed in the Market area. But with the property being in the hub of homeless shelters and other social agencies, Lauzon says it might be best to wait to see if problems can be brought under control before an apartment building is erected.

Consider the strip of homes, she says, adjacent to the old residence. A long gate was erected to keep the homeless off front steps or knocking on front doors, looking for handouts. “The landlord is having quite an issue.”

Would applying for an exemption be something the Lauzons should consider, especially as the area is already overrun by street people, and they wanted the two buildings knocked down five years ago?

Bédard says he doubts an exemption would be granted, given the heritage status of the area and continued interest to somehow save those buildings in a redevelopment.

“Heritage Ottawa and the planning department would like to see those buildings renovated completely,” says Bédard. In the meantime, city staff are studying a proposal by Bédard to have property standards in place for old buildings in heritage areas. He says he wants to stop property owners from just boarding them up until they rot.

Says Lauzon: “We do not abandon a building … if a building is worth saving.”

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Rowhouse/2920562/story.html

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Tough situation here. The city has spent so much to fix up King Edward, these properties really need to be developed.
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Large homeless population will likely curtail green space redevelopment for some time

By Hugh Adami, The Ottawa CitizenApril 18, 2010Comments (18)

Turning King Edward Avenue into another Champs-Élysées was more pipe dream than vision when Jim Durrell presented his platform during the 1985 Ottawa mayoral campaign.

But 25 years later, that stretch of King Edward north of Rideau Street finally does have a look of respectability after a $50-million reconstruction. There are new sewers, sidewalks, bold street lighting and a picturesque entranceway to the ByWard Market at York Street that is nearing completion.

But a landmark eyesore remains and it is not coming down — much to the chagrin of Rideau-Vanier Councillor Georges Bédard.

The city will allow exemptions to a policy that prohibits buildings to be demolished unless redevelopment plans are approved first. Bédard, who has taken stock of the dilapidated buildings in his ward, has found some owners willing to apply for the exemption.

But Claude Lauzon, a residential and commercial landlord who owns the eight boarded-up rowhouses on the east side of King Edward, between Clarence and Murray streets, isn’t biting.

The property at 263-275 King Edward could even make a rat wince, so imagine how the poor neighbours around it feel.

The Shepherds of Good Hope, which used the rowhouses for the homeless, was the last tenant. The buildings were vacated in 1999 when a new shelter opened across the street. The vacant buildings have often been broken into and used as flophouses and drug dens.

Just around the corner, at 260 Murray, is another boarded-up, derelict property. It is a house with a rambling addition, and was also used as a shelter from 1990 to 1999. Metal fencing between the buildings blocks access to the back lots.

That property is also owned by Lauzon, as are some other gems in Bédard’s ward.

There is the former Our Lady’s School building, built in 1904, on the northeast corner of Murray and Cumberland. A crumbling building, once a two-unit residence, is next door. Though the buildings do not have a heritage designation, they are located in a heritage area. There has been some lobbying to save both buildings in a redevelopment. But Lauzon believes the school, boarded up for decades, is beyond saving. Ditto for the adjacent building, which was significantly damaged by fire a few years ago.

The four properties have something in common besides the same landlord. They are situated in an area swarming with homeless people, many of whom have mental and addiction problems. That is a big reason why Lauzon isn’t rushing to redevelop them soon.

Lauzon’s daughter Lise, who works for her father, says there aren’t any plans for the King Edward properties now, and even if the Lauzons wanted to get something done, they would be discouraged by the many street people in the area and the problems they have brought with them.

“It’s getting worse,” she says. “It’s sad to see the people involved with drugs and what it does to them … It affects everybody (in the area.)”

Bédard has asked Lauzon to apply for an exemption, which would allow Lauzon to demolish the property, including the building around the corner. The land would then have to be turned into green space — basically a grassed area open to the public. The property would have to be maintained by Lauzon, and he would have to submit a redevelopment proposal within five or six years or face hefty fines.

Bédard says Lauzon hasn’t replied to his letter. Lise Lauzon says razing the King Edward buildings would create a bigger problem. Street people, she says, would congregate there during the warmer months and upset the neighbourhood even more than the eyesore does.

“This is not something we are willing to consider at this point. It’s one thing to demolish, but to maintain an open green space in that area? We have enough street people there already.”

In fact, residents have complained of having to put up with druggies on their front steps and even their backyards, day and night.

The Lauzons asked for a demolition permit to raze the school and residence about five years ago without submitting a redevelopment plan. There was talk of putting up an apartment building, but without a plan — and one that would have had to take in the heritage characteristics of the street — the demolition permit was denied.

Lauzon, who recounts the hurdles they faced for the first phase of a redevelopment on Beechwood Avenue, says new rental units are needed in the Market area. But with the property being in the hub of homeless shelters and other social agencies, Lauzon says it might be best to wait to see if problems can be brought under control before an apartment building is erected.

Consider the strip of homes, she says, adjacent to the old residence. A long gate was erected to keep the homeless off front steps or knocking on front doors, looking for handouts. “The landlord is having quite an issue.”

Would applying for an exemption be something the Lauzons should consider, especially as the area is already overrun by street people, and they wanted the two buildings knocked down five years ago?

Bédard says he doubts an exemption would be granted, given the heritage status of the area and continued interest to somehow save those buildings in a redevelopment.

“Heritage Ottawa and the planning department would like to see those buildings renovated completely,” says Bédard. In the meantime, city staff are studying a proposal by Bédard to have property standards in place for old buildings in heritage areas. He says he wants to stop property owners from just boarding them up until they rot.

Says Lauzon: “We do not abandon a building … if a building is worth saving.”

http://www.ottawacitizen.com/news/Rowhouse/2920562/story.html

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Tough situation here. The city has spent so much to fix up King Edward, these properties really need to be developed.
This might sound odd, but I think one of the best short term options might be to turn some of these into parking lots. It would get rid of the run down eye sores, and unlike "Greenspace" it would not be a haven for drug addicts.

While parking lots are clearly not ideal, we do know from centretown that these generally ultimately become buildings when the time is right.

It would at least get rid of the old without having to redevelop right now.
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That would be an easier sell to the developer....parking fees generated would cover the demo costs and more.
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They would cover the costs and then some. Its actually a good idea, but my concern would then be at what point does it get developed? There's less incentive to develop quickly when there's already something there generating revenue.
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At some point the value of the property as a development opportunity should outweigh its value as a revenue generating parking lot....until then it's a case of the lesser of two evils I suppose....but it would be nice to put some kind of date to develop if at all possible / legal.
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Maybe that could be included in a demolition permit. An allowance for a surface lot for X years. I don't know if that would work though?
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Speaking of demolitions, there are a bunch of applications for some of the sadder-looking properties on the south side of the east end of Rideau.
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I disagree. Once again, as Centretown shows, once it becomes a parking lot, it stays a parking lot. For decades. And it perpetrates the automobile culture.

Lauzon is well-known as a company that buys buildings, purposefully boards them up and lets them rot in order to be able to tear them down as 'unsaveable'. Why don't they want to tear down the ones on King Edward? Because they don't want to pay the fine when they can't redevelop within 5 years. If they could tear down the school and redevelop it, they would.

In my opinion, the boarded structures downtown are less of an eyesore than the proposed 'greenspace' (grass) or a parking lot would be.

Also, in terms of the rowhouses, I don't understand/believe the reasons given for the reluctance to redevelop. It's in a great location in terms of access to the Market, proximity to downtown, Ottawa U, and Rideau Street, and is on what should be a quite nice avenue. Anything with any type of height (more than 4 stories) would have nice views of Lower Town, and probably both rivers. The East Market condos are in a much more jarring proximity to Salvation Army (and just up from the Mission), that would be this development, which would have King Edward (still pedestrian-unfriendly) as a buffer from the shelter. If East Market succeeded so well, why couldn't something here.
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The East Market condos are in a much more jarring proximity to Salvation Army (and just up from the Mission), that would be this development, which would have King Edward (still pedestrian-unfriendly) as a buffer from the shelter. If East Market succeeded so well, why couldn't something here.
I dunno. For the houses on the east side of King Edward north of Murray you are probably right.

But anything around the corner of King Edward and Murray is about as bad as Ottawa gets. When going east on Murray approaching King Edward it is often a near-throng of homeless people running between the cars, back and forth between the Shepherds building and the Fire of God church on the north side of Murray.

The clientele at the Shepherds seems even more down and out than those of the Salvation Army near East Market and also of the Union Mission in the Nicholas/Waller area east of the Rideau Centre.
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Hmmm a thought. The City can go in and clean up a property that has been determined to be derelic, and send the bill to the owner. Could this not apply to the boarded up houses....raze them, send the bill to Lauzon. It doesn't need to be turned into a parking lot...although gravel instead of a nice grassy park might lessen the loitering.
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Speaking of demolitions, there are a bunch of applications for some of the sadder-looking properties on the south side of the east end of Rideau.
Are you talking about this site?
http://www.obj.ca/Real-Estate/Residentia...to-clear-Rideau-Street-site-for-condos/1
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