St Boniface Area | Winnipeg | Development

[michelleb]

Originally Posted by trueviking

The guy who built the new four storey apartment building across the back lane is mad that someone will build on the main street. He got all his tenants to sign in opposition....

He doesn't want any competition to potentially drive down rental prices. That kind of short sighted, zero-sum thinking will only keep that area depressed. Could easily absorb a bunch more multifamily.

[ColdRain&Snow]

NIMBY's are out in full force on Reddit:

https://www.reddit.com/r/Winnipeg/co...g_in_winnipeg/

[TheDowntowner]

This project really seems to be one that the city should more or less be rubber stamping when approached with plans. The neighbourhood is already more than built to accommodate this type of infill, and considering the number of affordable units is a near perfect spot to do so; given the existing essentials well within walking distance already and major bus routes literally on the doorstep for someone who doesn't have the luxury of vehicle ownership the ability to carry out most of their routine without having to worry about a car.

I sincerely hope this goes through because it could be a bit of a litmus test to see how serious we are as a city about changing the way we approach city building now and in the future.

[trueviking]

I guess when you build an apartment block that faces a back lane you expect the auto garage on the other side should stay there forever.

[trueviking]

The project is Indigenous led and will offer 40% of all suites with deeply affordable rents, (crazy low, not the typical CMHC thing) including townhouse ground floor units and three bedroom homes. It is also 30% better energy use that a typical building.

It is also developing a contaminated site.

The Marion end has a handsome brick facade with commercial space at the sidewalk.

This is the type of project we should be bending over backwards for. Not putting it through hoops for no reason. Again. Not a single person took the time to speak at committee but they can appeal by simply clicking a button.

[ColdRain&Snow]

Originally Posted by trueviking

The project is Indigenous led and will offer 40% of all suites with deeply affordable rents, (crazy low, not the typical CMHC thing) including townhouse ground floor units and three bedroom homes. It is also 30% better energy use that a typical building.

It is also developing a contaminated site.

The Marion end has a handsome brick facade with commercial space at the sidewalk.

This is the type of project we should be bending over backwards for. Not putting it through hoops for no reason. Again. Not a single person took the time to speak at committee but they can appeal by simply clicking a button.

Yeah it's ridiculous. The appeal literally says "Sent form my IPhone" at the end. It's way too easy to appeal projects in this city. I don't think that most people realize a 2 months delay can cost developers $10,000's. How is it that even allowed, it's insane.

[trueviking]

12 people opposed don’t live in the neighbourhood.

I had a project be appealed by a guy who wanted speed bumps on his street. The project wasn’t even on his street. He just wanted speed bumps. One person is all it took to appeal. Delayed the project by six months because it was over the summer break and the election. Killed the project.

Another issue is the appeals committee is a random group of councillors. This project has engaged the local councillor from the start. The councillors voting have no background on the project. No understanding of the local context.

[TheDowntowner]

Originally Posted by trueviking

Another issue is the appeals committee is a random group of councillors. This project has engaged the local councillor from the start. The councillors voting have no background on the project. No understanding of the local context.

I'm sure there are better ways to go about appeals but at a minimum it seems like the councillor of the ward the appeal is in should be rotated in as they come up.

[ColdRain&Snow]

Well my Reddit post got 13k views, hopefully some of those people register in support of the project. I also got some people from YIMBY as well as some personal friends to register. Here's to hoping that the project is approved on Wednesday.

[FactaNV]

Originally Posted by ColdRain&Snow

Well my Reddit post got 13k views, hopefully some of those people register in support of the project. I also got some people from YIMBY as well as some personal friends to register. Here's to hoping that the project is approved on Wednesday.

Sent my support!

[wags_in_the_peg]

my support has been sent in! I just walked by here on my walk from Home to Kilter Brewing on Saturday and was dreaming how wonderful addition to that corner it would be. Give me another one on smaller scale across the street to replace a few not great homes

[ColdRain&Snow]

Thanks guys, appreciate it.

[pegster]

There is an inherent status quo bias in the system. The people who live near a proposed project, and don't like it, always get to be heard. But the people who won't be able to live there because a project might get cancelled never get heard. I hope that it's mostly smooth sailing for this one.

[bomberjet]

Originally Posted by ColdRain&Snow

My response from the City was that the automated system made a mistake and that's why the appeal notice wasn't posted on the Public Notices page. Annoying, but not much that can be done about it. I'm going to make a Reddit post after work today to try to get people to register against the appeal. Might make a post on this page as well.

So basically the City didn't notice there was an issue until you flagged it to them haha

[bomberjet]

Originally Posted by pegster

There is an inherent status quo bias in the system. The people who live near a proposed project, and don't like it, always get to be heard. But the people who won't be able to live there because a project might get cancelled never get heard. I hope that it's mostly smooth sailing for this one.

This is where groups like YIMBY are important. With my current family life situation, I don't have much spare time to participate. But I do get notices and such from YIMBY. Good to see they have representation on this forum.

[KnickKnack]

I submitted comments as well. It's really too bad that they didn't post the public notice, I would have registered in support much earlier had I known about it (I live nearby and am subscribed to notificatons for the area but recieved not a thing in my inbox).

[The Jabroni]

I did my due diligence earlier.

Hopefully it goes well.

[Unbending]

Great presentation today at the Appeals Committee trueviking!

[cllew]

Originally Posted by trueviking

12 people opposed don’t live in the neighbourhood.

I had a project be appealed by a guy who wanted speed bumps on his street. The project wasn’t even on his street. He just wanted speed bumps. One person is all it took to appeal. Delayed the project by six months because it was over the summer break and the election. Killed the project.

Another issue is the appeals committee is a random group of councilors. This project has engaged the local councilor from the start. The councilors voting have no background on the project. No understanding of the local context.

My understanding of the appeal committee is the make up is suppose to be of councilors that don't have any vested interest in the hearing. They should have the interest of city at stake and not what a local community influence group thinks should happen.

Of course the appeals don't always work as the appeal process was envisioned as there may be development adverse councilors from a different community on the hearing board.

[ColdRain&Snow]

The building get approved but damn was that close. Took the Appeals Committee about 3 hours of hearings and discussion. Honestly thought that it was going to get blocked. John Orlikow is known for being pretty anti-development but in the end he supported it. The biggest sticking point was of course the parking.